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Van Dam Case Witness Challenges Findings Of Defense 'Bug Expert': But...His Testimony Don't Add Up..
Union Tribune ^ | July 31, 2002 | Jeff Dillion

Posted on 07/30/2002 3:58:51 PM PDT by FresnoDA

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Uhm...Dr. Goof...please check your math again....LOL

Dr. Lee Goff, chairman of the forensic science department at Chaminade University of Honolulu, testifies during the trial of David Westerfield Tuesday, July 30, 2002, in San Diego. Westerfield is charged with the kidnapping and murder of seven-year-old Danielle van Dam. (AP Photo/Dan Trevan, Pool)
Tue Jul 30, 5:00 PM ET

Dr. Lee Goff, chairman of the forensic science department at Chaminade University of Honolulu, testifies during the trial of David Westerfield Tuesday, July 30, 2002, in San Diego. Westerfield is charged with the kidnapping and murder of seven-year-old Danielle van Dam. (AP Photo/Dan Trevan, Pool)

1 posted on 07/30/2002 3:58:52 PM PDT by FresnoDA
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Ping....But..bring a calculator..the math doesn't add up...
2 posted on 07/30/2002 4:00:26 PM PDT by FresnoDA
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Dr. Gof...BUG EXPERT-For Prosecution

Dr. Lee Goff, the chairman of the forensic science department at Chaminade University of Honolulu, testifies during the trial of David Westerfield Tuesday, July 30, 2002, in San Diego. Westerfield is charged with the kidnapping and murder of seven-year-old Danielle van Dam. (AP Photo/Dan Trevan, Pool)Ok, now I know a lot about bugs...Mr. Feldman...but these MATH questions are really Van Damn hard.....I am a bit flustered...


3 posted on 07/30/2002 4:08:16 PM PDT by FresnoDA
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An orange acrylic fiber was abundant in defendant David Westerfield's home, but showed up only once on the victim, 7-year-old Danielle van Dam— wrapped between the links of a necklace that was still on her neck when she was found. "The long bright orange fibers were significant to me because I had seen a bright orange fiber somewhere else and that triggered my memory," said police criminalist Jennifer Shen. "In the necklace, tangled in hair that was tangled around the necklace was a long, orange fiber."
4 posted on 07/30/2002 4:11:08 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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The orange fiber found in van Dam's necklace, Shen testified, was everywhere in Westerfield's home. The witness told the court that it matched 20 to 30 fibers found in Westerfield's washer, 50 to 100 found on top of the washer, another 50 to 100 in his laundry, and 10 to 20 found in the bedding in his master bedroom.
5 posted on 07/30/2002 4:12:08 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
You have learned HTML so you can now have colored text.

The prosecution rests. ;-)
6 posted on 07/30/2002 4:13:00 PM PDT by Stiv
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PING )))))))))))))))))))))) Don't want to miss anyone.
7 posted on 07/30/2002 4:17:16 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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So, since there was only 1 on Danielle, and IT WAS STUCK in her hair/choker, what is the likelihood that it got there from one of her visits with Mom?
8 posted on 07/30/2002 4:18:52 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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orange fiber comparison

If the pic of danielles necklace doesn't work..here's the link
http://community-2.webtv.net/msn.com/hergus/Evidence/page21.html
9 posted on 07/30/2002 4:19:01 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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If there were that many ORANGE FIBERS in DW's house, and DW took Danielle in the house, to his bedroom to rape/kill her, then why aren't there more fibers on/around her body?
10 posted on 07/30/2002 4:20:09 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: Stiv
:)
11 posted on 07/30/2002 4:20:47 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
Don't forget the blue ones too.

Don't ya know Danielle had an orange and blue fabric covered step ladder that she carried whenever she left her yard unattended. Her favorite play time activities are wash the hair in a strangers sink.

12 posted on 07/30/2002 4:21:54 PM PDT by VRWC_minion
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2 Visits, one this year and ONE the year before that DW doesn't even remember.

I don't think anyone can actually claim they know the actual scene of the crime. Maybe he transported her in teh MH, but I'm not convinced the crime was done there.

13 posted on 07/30/2002 4:22:48 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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Her mom didn't hug her according to the testimony. How did it get there ?

Further, if Westerfield got the fibers from Dad's how did he get them to the RV when he showered Sat AM and changed his clothes ? The connections are just not there.

And today we seen that the defense tested dozens of random sources and none matched clothing, so it isn't a common fiber

14 posted on 07/30/2002 4:24:43 PM PDT by VRWC_minion
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If there were that many ORANGE FIBERS in DW's house, and DW took Danielle in the house, to his bedroom to rape/kill her, then why aren't there more fibers on/around her body?

He didn;t take her to house, he took her to RV. The fibers in house would be transfered by WEsterfield and washer/dryer.

15 posted on 07/30/2002 4:26:17 PM PDT by VRWC_minion
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You seem confused. I said did Danielle get the ORANGE FIBERS that Kim is referring to that were ALL OVER DW's HOUSE, from his house when her and Brenda went over to SELL COOKIES. Doesn't require Danielle to hug Brenda. You are like 5 conversations back.

Were all up here, waiting for you to catch up. Last one in has cooties!

16 posted on 07/30/2002 4:29:31 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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And today we seen that the defense tested dozens of random sources and none matched clothing, so it isn't a common fiber.

Prosecution, not defense tested and proved what the source was not.

Defense tried to imply and deceive the jury.

You are correct that the testimony is that it is not a common fiber.

17 posted on 07/30/2002 4:31:08 PM PDT by cyncooper
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he took her to RV.

Same question. Why only 1 orange fiber that appears to have been there for a while, like it was stuck in her hair for a couple of days ( like from the last time she was at DW's and ran all over the house).?

18 posted on 07/30/2002 4:31:42 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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Blue-gray fibers found in greater number on the victim also matched fibers found in Westerfield's home, she said, noting that the evidence was indeed more conclusive when taken as a whole. "The fact that it is in so many places... it's certainly an additive effect," Shen said.
19 posted on 07/30/2002 4:32:19 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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I said did Danielle get the ORANGE FIBERS that Kim is referring to that were ALL OVER DW's HOUSE, from his house when her and Brenda went over to SELL COOKIES.

She would have bathed and washed her hair in the interim.

The orange fiber was tangled within a tangle of her hair on the necklace.

20 posted on 07/30/2002 4:33:01 PM PDT by cyncooper
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