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To: crystalk
mud = 13 + 21 + 4 = 38

muhammad = 13 + 21 + 1 + 13 + 13 + 1 + 4 = 66

Now can you find a literary or historical reference to the phrase 'your name is mud' prior to 1860?

28 posted on 07/31/2002 10:19:30 PM PDT by Marak
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To: Marak
You don't understand. The Hebrew letters really are the numerals and they do have those values. This is not just a parlor trick. It is called gematria.

Your calculation uses just the ranks in the alphabet, like M is the 13th letter, etc. It has no tradition of equalizing things based upon their numerical letter equivalency, which in Hebrew goes back 3000 yrs.

Show me why the same saying is common in German, in fact German immigrants brought it to America, where it was translated into English. There the word for mud = schlamm, but "Sein Namen ist Schlamm" is still said...Was there a Dr. Schlamm that treated Goethe or someone?

31 posted on 07/31/2002 10:29:04 PM PDT by crystalk
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To: Marak
also you left out the 8 for the h in your calculation of English gematria, so Muhammad =74 not 66.
33 posted on 07/31/2002 10:33:51 PM PDT by crystalk
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