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Jurors To Hear Recorded Westerfield Tapes: Mudd Still Wrestling With Media! (VERDICT WATCH-Aug.14th)
Union Trib ^ | August 14, 2002 | San Diego Staff

Posted on 08/13/2002 10:12:33 PM PDT by FresnoDA

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To: bvw
No it is stating your innocence for the world to hear. Westerfield's life is on the line. He needs to win this case BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY. Remember, he is ON TRIAL. I'm not on trial. Why is that? Because the State thinks HE did it, not me. They have enough evidence to put him on trial. They told the jury that HE is guilty. He needs to refute them and state for the record "THE STATE IS WRONG. I AM INNOCENT".
21 posted on 08/14/2002 5:49:34 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: AppyPappy
No sir, that is still for all practical effect. presumption of guilt.
22 posted on 08/14/2002 5:51:47 AM PDT by bvw
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To: bvw
Why is Westerfield on trial instead of someone else?
23 posted on 08/14/2002 5:52:46 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: AppyPappy
Perhaps others will dally and feint with you on this so as to chance to explain it to you. I'm shall just repeat as often as you rejoin -- "It is presumption of guilt."
24 posted on 08/14/2002 5:54:49 AM PDT by bvw
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To: bvw
CONSTITUTION?? "We don't need no steekin' Constitution!"

(The rallying cry of the lynch mob.....)
25 posted on 08/14/2002 6:09:57 AM PDT by Politicalmom
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To: bvw
Why is Westerfield on trial?
26 posted on 08/14/2002 6:11:29 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: AppyPappy
Because the DA is up for re-election against sagging poll numbers, and he needed a high profile death penalty case to win. Westerfield is a scapegoat. I have followed the trial on and off on thesandiegochannel.com live feeds, and would vote for aquital. There is more than a few degrees of doubt in this case.
28 posted on 08/14/2002 6:13:28 AM PDT by BullDog108
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To: AppyPappy
Why is Westerfield on trial instead of someone else?

* 'Cause he left his hose out across the yard, and a "neat freak" just wouldn't do that.
* 'Cause he's divorced and lives alone since Susan moved out.
* 'Cause he went on a pre-planned, typically meandering desert trip that weekend, by himself since none of the other people he invited to go with him could make it.
* 'Cause he was "overly cooperative" by letting police look in his house and talking to them about his whereabouts that weekend.
* 'Cause he looks "creepy" (as per Duh-knees, who danced with him and rubbed her body all over him in the process).
* 'Cause he wasn't attracted to Brenda, but rather asked about hookin' up with her gal pal Barb.
* 'Cause The Bren pointed police in his direction mere hours after they arrived at the Van Dam household looking for Danielle.
* 'Cause some of the neighbors didn't like his motorhome.

Lots of reasons, actually. Just screams guilty!!!, doesn't it?

29 posted on 08/14/2002 6:14:33 AM PDT by shezza
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To: BullDog108
Why Westerfield? Why not someone else?
30 posted on 08/14/2002 6:16:48 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: shezza
Let me guess. The police planted that hair and blood in his white Bron...er, motor home.
31 posted on 08/14/2002 6:17:27 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: AppyPappy
Westerfield may have had something to do with it but there are way too many unanswered questions that lead in a different direction. IMHO that is why so many freepers myself included have a problem with DW being found guilty.
32 posted on 08/14/2002 6:17:35 AM PDT by winodog
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To: FresnoDA; All
Good morning, FRES. and all dedicated Trial watchers! I think we will have a verdict today.

Back to this article. River Stillwood certainly would have known what her source was for the secret information she passed on to Rick Roberts. Isn't it the number one rule in boardcasting and journalism to "check out your source"? We do it here all the time...Source please?

Beth Karas and Lisa Bloom were furious at the decision yesterday to banish River. "It's flys against the lst Amendment rights"...screamed Lisa Bloom.

No matter what the verdict, I'm delighted CTV is squirming waiting for the Jury to return.

MSNBC did a fine job yesterday afternoon. They are on Jury watch also...click!

sw

33 posted on 08/14/2002 6:19:14 AM PDT by spectre
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To: winodog
I don't think they proved it to the jury but there is enough to hang them up. If he had testified and was innocent, he would already be walking free.
34 posted on 08/14/2002 6:19:49 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: spectre
Anything that upsets the vacuous CTV crew is GOOD, in my book!! : )
35 posted on 08/14/2002 6:20:59 AM PDT by Politicalmom
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To: spectre
#33...For some reason, I think today is the 'day' too!!

He didn't do it.......and I'm standing by this!!

There were tooooo many other people in that house and familiar with the house plans, who had opportunity to do this crime.

I'm even suspecting Barb.....This gal had a bit much vaiety in her pleasures, if you know what I mean!!

I think Bren has viciously pointed at Westerfield as the scapegoat....and the police & media ran with it.

36 posted on 08/14/2002 6:27:58 AM PDT by Guenevere
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To: AppyPappy
I testified for myself once. The attorney was ruthless. The DA who was "on my side" was useless.
They are very good at making a innocent man appear guilty in the eyes of the jury.
37 posted on 08/14/2002 6:29:05 AM PDT by winodog
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To: AppyPappy
Hi AppyPappy..It's a little late in the game to ask for answers, when we've probably give the same answer over 100 times to any question you might have, if you took the time to read these threads.

But there are two schools of thought to a witness testifying. They should and they shouldn't. The popular professional opinion has been for the Defendant NOT to take the stand.

I personally, think at the end of the day, that he should have. He could have explained the "we" in the tape being used against him. I think he used "we" went this way or that way, because he was USED to having someone with him and he was frazzled in the interview. He had only just broken up with his Girlfriend.

Stay tuned..Pappy.

sw

38 posted on 08/14/2002 6:31:04 AM PDT by spectre
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To: AppyPappy
If I was an innocent person charged with such a heinous crime, I would be shouting my innocence from the rooftops. I would testify in my own defense. Most reasonable people would...if they were innocent. Most reasonable jurors don't hold it against somebody if they don't testify (it's their right not to do so)--but it sure is a big plus in their favor if they do. Westerfield could get up there and talk about how awful it is to be wrongfully accused of such a horrible crime and gain a lot of sympathy.

I served on two juries with a total of 5 defendants. None of them took the stand-their lawyers didn't offer any exculpatory evidence at all. Their whole defense was to poke holes in the state's evidence--unsuccessfully, as it turns out, because they were all convicted.
39 posted on 08/14/2002 6:31:14 AM PDT by wimpycat
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Update on the informal verdict pool: What's your best guess for when the verdict will come in? (actual verdict prediction optional and not recorded)

There is no "prize," but the winner(s) get to be called "winners" and have the right to say "I told you so;" we're still negotiating about "neener neener neeners."

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40 posted on 08/14/2002 6:32:20 AM PDT by MizSterious
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