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To: BigWaveBetty; Pippin; *The GUILD
Thanks for the link to Pippin's 9.11 remembrance.

A tremendous Tuesday to all.

The very best of luck to those involved with elections today.
13 posted on 09/10/2002 6:06:20 AM PDT by lodwick
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To: lodwick
Good Morning, JL. I see on the News & Activism page that there is confusion at the polls this morning in FL. Wouldn't it be interesting if the Rats do some dirty tricks to their own today? It is such fun to sit and watch these P!$$ing Matches when you don't really have a dog in the fight.

Wondering if Janet will trade her pickup in. . . .
14 posted on 09/10/2002 6:31:57 AM PDT by Iowa Granny
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SUBJECT: DEQ File No.97-59- 0023; T11N; R10W, Sec. 20; Montcalm County

Dear Mr. DeVries:

It has come to the attention of the Department of Environmental Quality that
there has been recent unauthorized activity on the above referenced parcel of
property. You have been certified as the legal landowner and/or contractor
who did the following unauthorized activity: Construction and maintenance of
two wood debris dams across the outlet stream of Spring Pond. A permit must
be issued prior to the start of this type of activity. A review of the
Department's files shows that no permits have been issued.

Therefore, the Department has determined that this activity is in violation
of Part 301, Inland Lakes and Streams, of the Natural Resource and
Environmental Protection Act, Act 451 of the Public Acts of 1994, being
sections 324.30101 to 324.30113 of the Michigan Compiled Laws,
annotated. The Department has been informed that one or both of the dams
partially failed during a recent rain event, causing debris and flooding at
downstream locations. We find that dams of this nature are inherently
hazardous and cannot be permitted. The Department therefore orders you to
cease and desist all activities at this location, and to restore the stream
to a free-flow condition by removing all wood and brush forming the dams from
the stream channel. All restoration work shall be completed no later than
January 31, 2003.

Please notify this office when the restoration has been completed so that a
follow-up site inspection may be scheduled by our staff. Failure to comply
with this request or any further unauthorized activity on the site may result
in this case being referred for elevated enforcement action. We anticipate
and would appreciate your full cooperation in this matter. Please feel free
to contact me at this office if you have any questions.

Sincerely,

David L. Price
District Representative Land and Water Management Division
____________________________________________________


Dear Mr. Price,

Re: DEQ File No. 97-59-0023; T11N; R10W, Sec. 20; Montcalm County. I am the
legal landowner but not the Contractor at 2088 Dagget, Pierson, Michigan. A
couple of beavers are in the (State unauthorized) process of constructing and
maintaining two wood "debris" dams across the outlet stream of my Spring
Pond.

While I did not pay for, authorize, nor supervise their dam project, I think
they would be highly offended that you call their skillful use of natures'
building materials "debris."

I would like to challenge your department to attempt to emulate their dam
project any time and/or any place you choose. I believe I can safely state
there is no way you could ever match their dam skills, their dam
resourcefulness, their dam ingenuity, their dam persistence, their dam
determination and/or their dam work ethic.

As to your request, I do not think the beavers are aware that they must first
fill out a dam permit prior to the start of this type of dam activity.

My first dam question to you is: (1) Are you trying to discriminate against
these Spring Pond Beavers or (2) do you require all beavers throughout this
State to conform to said dam request?

If you are not discriminating against these particular beavers, through the
Freedom of Information Act, I request completed copies of all those other
applicable beaver dam permits that have been issued. Perhaps we will see if
there really is a dam violation of Part 301, Inland Lakes and Streams, of the
Natural Resource and Environmental Protection Act, Act 451 of the Public Acts
of 1994, being sections 324.30101 to 324.30113 of the Michigan Compiled Laws,
annotated.

I have several concerns. My first concern is - aren't the beavers entitled
to legal representation? The Spring Pond Beavers are financially destitute
and are unable to pay for said representation- so the State will have to
provide them with a dam lawyer. The Department's dam concern that either one
or both of the dams failed during a recent rain event causing flooding is
proof that this is a natural occurrence, which the Department is required to
protect.

In other words, we should leave the Spring Pond Beavers alone rather than
harassing them and calling their dam names. If you want the stream
"restored" to a dam free-flow condition please contact the beavers - but if
you are going to arrest them, they obviously did not pay any attention to
your dam letter they being unable to read English.

In my humble opinion, the Spring Pond Beavers have a right to build their
unauthorized dams as long as the sky is blue, the grass is green and water
flows downstream. They have more dam rights than I do to live and enjoy
Spring Pond. If the Department of Natural Resources and Environmental
Protection lives up to its name, it should protect the natural resources
(Beavers) and the environment (Beavers' Dams.).

So, as far as the beavers and I are concerned, this dam case can be referred
for more elevated enforcement action right now. Why wait until 1/31/2003?
The Spring Pond Beavers may be under the dam ice then and there will be no
way for you or your dam staff to contact/harass them then.

In conclusion, I would like to bring to your attention to a real
environmental quality (health) problem in the area. It is the bears! Bears
are actually defecating in our woods. I definitely believe you should be
persecuting the defecating bears and leave the beavers alone. If you are
going to investigate the beaver dam, watch your step! (The bears are not
careful where they dump!)

Being unable to comply with your dam request, and being unable to contact you
on your dam answering machine, I am sending this response to your dam office.




59 posted on 09/10/2002 11:14:57 AM PDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
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