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McKellen Mulls Hobbit
SciFi.com ^ | October 29, 2002

Posted on 10/29/2002 2:06:40 PM PST by Paul Atreides

Ian McKellen, the venerable actor who plays Gandalf in Peter Jackson's Lord of the Rings films, told fans on his official Web site that he might consider appearing in a movie version of J.R.R. Tolkien's The Hobbit. In response to a fan question, McKellen wrote, "I recently asked about the film rights to The Hobbit, which seem to be somewhat controlled by Peter Jackson, as far as I can tell. I hope that's the case, because obviously he should have first refusal at translating the novel into a movie."

McKellen added, "I should be intrigued to return to Middle-earth, even though it involved putting on Gandalf's nose, which is even more distinctive than my own. ... I thought it might be possible to make a really long screen version, probably for television, with every episode of the book covered week by week in a multitude of episodes. Ian Holm—who was proud to look so young as well as so old as Bilbo in The Fellowship of the Ring—even he might think the young Bilbo of The Hobbit was unlikely casting for an actor of his age." McKellen next appears as the wizard in the upcoming sequel film Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers, which opens Dec. 18.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; The Hobbit Hole
KEYWORDS: thehobbit; tolkien

1 posted on 10/29/2002 2:06:40 PM PST by Paul Atreides
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To: HairOfTheDog
The Lord of the PINGS!
2 posted on 10/29/2002 2:08:17 PM PST by Paul Atreides
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To: Paul Atreides
Only 50 more days...

Until I can wait in line for 50 more days.....
3 posted on 10/29/2002 2:49:09 PM PST by El Sordo
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To: El Sordo; Paul Atreides; ecurbh
The Hobbit would be wonderful... and so nice after all the darkness that is to come in this story! Sometimes I watch just the beginning of the FoTR, and stop it at the party, before the darkness comes. Puts me in a good wholesome mood!

You don't have to wait that long El Sordo... according to my math it is 49 days 8 hours.

Ecurbh.... Ping the ringers?
4 posted on 10/29/2002 3:31:09 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: Paul Atreides; All
Let's see, being conservative, Peter Jackson could easily complete a film version of The Hobbit AND The Silmarillion and STILL be shy of his fortieth birthday.

No matter what else he ever filmed, his place in movie history would be assured. Most certainly, such an accomplishment would overshadow that of George Lucas, who has admitted to omitting no less than the last three "episodes" of his Star Wars saga, which was supposed to have nine installments. His inexplicable twenty-year wait before beginning the prequels doomed that dream. So too did his three-year lag time between movies.

I fully expect PJ to complete his herculean Labor of Love well before he reaches Lucas' age. He at least truly cares about his material, and is enthusiastic about it.

5 posted on 10/29/2002 5:18:57 PM PST by Long Cut
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To: 2Jedismom; Alkhin; Anitius Severinus Boethius; AUsome Joy; austinTparty; Bear_in_RoseBear; ...

Ring Ping!!

Tolkien Bump-List

48 days...

6 posted on 10/30/2002 2:57:12 PM PST by ecurbh
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To: Long Cut
Maybe I'd understand The Silmarillion if Jackson filmed it.

Presently, it's serving the purpose of ushering my wife and I off to sleep. Usually within five minutes; never, I think, in more than ten.

Dan

7 posted on 10/30/2002 4:53:09 PM PST by BibChr
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To: BibChr
Not gotten any better Dan?

Have you read about the great rings and the Istari? I found those to sections and the missions of the three Wizards, Gandalf in particular, to be interesting and enlightening to his role in LoTR. Skip the parts with elves with unpronouncable names. Life's too short and there won't be a pop quiz!

48 Days 6 hours till TTT!

8 posted on 10/30/2002 5:09:17 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: Paul Atreides; ecurbh; HairOfTheDog
The Lord of the Rings films are curing the disappointment I encountered with the release of the new Star Wars films. Where George Lucas is failing, Peter Jackson is succeeding with virtually incomparable brilliance. As far as dramatic epics go, I'd put Braveheart in the same league as LOTR:FOTR, but nothing else.

I wish PJ would take on Susan Cooper's The Dark Is Rising sequence. LOTR fans would love those books, and any films PJ made from them.

9 posted on 10/30/2002 5:31:22 PM PST by Z in Oregon
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To: Z in Oregon
Lucas's problem is that he has strayed from his original concept. I saw Clones and couldn't believe the sight of Obi-Wan going to an alien hash-slinger, in a 50s-esque diner (with a floozy robot waitress, no less!). Then, there were the one-liners being zinged about. The movies are okay, and I will probably buy them on DVD. However, they do not fit in seamlessly with the original three.
10 posted on 10/30/2002 7:15:56 PM PST by Paul Atreides
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To: Paul Atreides
Yeah; it's like the mystical idea of The Force being reduced to a midichlorian count in Episode 1. That, along with a shift from interesting characters to emotionally flat CGI (C3PO to Jar-Jar), sums up What Went Wrong.

I'm still a mega fan of the original trilogy though, and would buy those DVDs in a heartbeat---are they out yet?

Yet, I'll be buying the extended LOTR:FOTR DVD with anticipation, and Clones with resignation.

By the way, there is a great sci-fi channel version of Dune, with William Hurt, out on VHS. A trillion times better than the version that had Sting in it.

11 posted on 10/30/2002 7:45:52 PM PST by Z in Oregon
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To: Paul Atreides
Yeah; it's like the mystical idea of The Force being reduced to a midichlorian count in Episode 1. That, along with a shift from interesting characters to emotionally flat CGI (C3PO to Jar-Jar), sums up What Went Wrong.

I'm still a mega fan of the original trilogy though, and would buy those DVDs in a heartbeat---are they out yet?

Yet, I'll be buying the extended LOTR:FOTR DVD with anticipation, and Clones with resignation.

By the way, there is a great sci-fi channel version of Dune, with William Hurt, out on VHS. A trillion times better than the version that had Sting in it.

12 posted on 10/30/2002 7:46:59 PM PST by Z in Oregon
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To: Paul Atreides
Yeah; it's like the mystical idea of The Force being reduced to a midichlorian count in Episode 1. That, along with a shift from interesting characters to emotionally flat CGI (C3PO to Jar-Jar), sums up What Went Wrong.

I'm still a mega fan of the original trilogy though, and would buy those DVDs in a heartbeat---are they out yet?

Yet, I'll be buying the extended LOTR:FOTR DVD with anticipation, and Clones with resignation.

By the way, there is a great sci-fi channel version of Dune, with William Hurt, out on VHS. A trillion times better than the version that had Sting in it.

13 posted on 10/30/2002 7:47:37 PM PST by Z in Oregon
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To: Z in Oregon
The extended version of the SciFi Dune is the one to get! Warning: it has some nudity in it.

So far, I have not heard of an estimated date on the Star Wars DVDs. I can't wait for the extended LOTR!

BTW, the sequel to the Dune minseries, will be out in March 2003. It combines the second and third books.

14 posted on 10/30/2002 8:16:31 PM PST by Paul Atreides
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To: Paul Atreides
My last post wouldn't show up...then does intriplicate. Hmmmm.

I bought LOTR:FOTR on VHS; have the extended version DVD on order.

I'll check for the extended Sci-Fi Dune DVD. Dune Messiah would be cool to see in 2003; Children of Dune, sure, but the books lost me when Leto morphed into something non-human.

15 posted on 10/30/2002 8:27:41 PM PST by Z in Oregon
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To: Z in Oregon
Here are some links you might enjoy!

Frank Herbert's Dune Special Edition

The Landsraad

16 posted on 10/30/2002 8:37:34 PM PST by Paul Atreides
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To: Paul Atreides
Thanks Paul.
17 posted on 10/30/2002 8:45:58 PM PST by Z in Oregon
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To: Z in Oregon; Paul Atreides
Yeah... I hopped off the train at Lord Emperor too!

Became a worm didn't he Paul? - It was not a good look for you! Did he come back from that later?
18 posted on 10/30/2002 9:05:53 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
His son, Leto II, accepted the sandtrout skin, which enabled him to live 3,500 years. The sandtrout joined together, to create his worm body, dissolving his human form. Upon his death, the sandtrout dissipated back into the sand, to ultimately become the sandworm, carrying a piece of his sentience with them.

I think that it was a little far-fetched, which is why most people do not like it. It does seem to get off track from the original story. However, when you think about it, it is not too far removed from the mutated Guild Steersmen.

19 posted on 10/30/2002 9:13:25 PM PST by Paul Atreides
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To: Paul Atreides; maquiladora; ecurbh
Heh....

Alrighty then! Couldn't follow it then.... can't follow it now!

Keep your eye out!

There are some new video clips about!

A five-minute TTT clip was posted at TORN ( http://www.theonering.net/index.stat ) but the load already killed the site. I emailed the poster, and he said they were trying to get it up again another way. Hopefully by morning? Be on your guard!

BUT in the process, I saw news of a new video clip of CREATURES of TTT at the Official site ( http://www.lordoftherings.net/ )! The winged Nazgul is there.... feast your eyes! (no ents yet.... stay tuned!)
20 posted on 10/30/2002 9:54:40 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
I don't know where I am. I'm on page 85. About.

Feanor and the Nolder just got all hitty and stabby with the... the... the Telmarines, or whatever. The guys with boats. Because Feanor is going after Morgoth, or whoever, Melkor. Or he thinks he is, but really, he's under Melkor's spell. Or something. That, and wonder, shadows, brooding, song, and blah blah blah.

That's where I am. Zzzzzzzz.

Dan

21 posted on 10/31/2002 6:29:49 AM PST by BibChr
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To: BibChr
wonder, shadows, brooding, song, and blah blah blah

Very interesting D... zzzzzzzzzzzzz....

22 posted on 10/31/2002 6:38:03 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: Long Cut
Jackson may well be exhausted after this achievement, but it'd be nice to get the Hobbit rolling for Ian Holm's sake. Poor Jackson, now the hobbitheads think they own him...we *do*, don't we?

It isn't just the Hobbit that he needs to film, but some just-for-video shorts: Tales from the Silmarillion (it wouldn't work as a regular movie), and Tom Bombadil.

23 posted on 11/01/2002 11:32:34 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: HairOfTheDog
Hey Hair!

That Nazgul winged beast looks very creepy indeed, can't wait to see the finished form on the big screen!

24 posted on 11/01/2002 12:55:27 PM PST by maquiladora
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To: Mamzelle
I think he was talking about doing some small movie after LOTR has come to a halt, and then perhaps do King Kong with Universal, so unless McKellen and some others can convince him otherwise, I can't see him doing The Hobbit anytime in the near future.
25 posted on 11/01/2002 12:59:15 PM PST by maquiladora
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To: BibChr
Yes, I find it very difficult to read too, it never holds my attention long enough.

Have you seen Christopher Tolkien's 12 volume History Of Middle Earth series?
Volume 6: The Return Of The Shadow, is quite interesting.

26 posted on 11/01/2002 1:14:37 PM PST by maquiladora
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To: maquiladora
No. What can it possibly be? TWELVE volume history? I thought he had a big hand in putting together The Silmarillion, and remember critics at the time not being very impressed.

Dan

27 posted on 11/01/2002 1:21:52 PM PST by BibChr
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To: BibChr
Yep, 12 volumes, each about 500/600 pages long. There's even a 500-odd page index volume too, so I guess you could say 13.

I have 6,7,9 and 12. There's some very interesting things in them. Some have old versions of The Lord Of The Rings with discarded characters and scenes or variant plots. There's also a lot of Tolkien's other writing, like a couple of his sci-fi stories that merge with history and middle-earth and his abandoned follow-up to LOTR.

A real wealth of information that would take a lifetime to get through and fully understand.

28 posted on 11/01/2002 1:30:56 PM PST by maquiladora
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