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To: rdb3
are you REALLY that dumb?

if you've read my posts over the years, you'll KNOW that the damnyankees had NO INTENTION of freeing THEIR SLAVES!

chattal slavery was written into the US constitution as well AND it was dying a natural & un-lamented death.absent the WBTS, i believe that the industrial revolution in agriculture would have ended slavery within 10-15 years, perhaps sooner.

lincoln, that GREAT bloodspiller, tyrant & damnfool said IN WRITING that he didn't care a damn about slavery. what lincoln & his cabal of thugs/crooks/cheap politicians DID want was $$$$$$$$$$$ & POWER. the radical republicans were about IMPERIALIST hemisphere-wide expansion. the CSA was the first victim;Canada was to be second; Mexico & latin america were to swiftly follow in their "grand design". thankfully a fellow named BOOTH ended lincoln's great dream of the "pax americana".

he also was in favor of getting rid of all the Indians in the USA, by killing or driving them away from white people. he hated roman catholics, jews,"muddy coloured" people, latinos & asians. other than being a stone racist & bigot, lincoln was a "great man"!

free dixie,sw

59 posted on 11/12/2002 8:45:54 AM PST by stand watie
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To: stand watie
chattal slavery was written into the US constitution as well

That's shear nonsense. The US Constitution acknowledged the existence of slavery in an off-hand manner and made no attempt to outlaw it. That's a far-cry from the explicit endorsements of the practice visible in the rebels' constitutional manifesto. Show me where the United States Constitution contains the following clauses:

No bill of attainder, ex post facto law, or law denying or impairing the right of property in negro slaves shall be passed.

The citizens of each State shall be entitled to all the privileges and immunities of citizens in the several States, and shall have the right of transit and sojourn in any State of this Confederacy, with their slaves and other property; and the right of property in said slaves shall not be thereby impaired.

In all such territory, the institution of negro slavery as it now exists in the Confederate States, shall be recognized and protected by Congress, and by the territorial government; and the inhabitants of the several Confederate States and Territories, shall have the right to take to such territory any slaves, lawfully held by them in any of the States or Territories of the Confederate States.

You have to wake up and face reality: The South did indeed fight for its freedom -- the freedom to deny freedom to those who would be free. You speculate that slavery "was in its way out," apparently monumental ignoring Southern efforts to extend the practice to new territories, rather than reduce its scope. That speculation may be true or it may be unfounded, but it is certainly irrelevent. The unavoidable fact is that Southerners rebelled against the Government when they feared that their absolute freedom to enslave their fellow human beings might be endangered, and that effort was properly suppressed.

the radical republicans were about IMPERIALIST hemisphere-wide expansion.

That claim is simply silly, and demonstrative of your manifest ignorance. If you look at the historical record, you'll find that expansionism was most prominent among Southern Democrats, who agitated, even after the Civil War, for the annexation of all-Mexico and Cuba. The Whigs and, later, the Republicans were the only voice speaking out against out-right imperialism. It wasn't always a popular position, but it was effective. Republicans didn't adopt "imperialism" in any sense of the word until the 1890s -- just look at the profound Republican opposition to the purchase of Alaska and the annexation of Hawaii for proof.

63 posted on 11/12/2002 9:05:24 AM PST by andy_card
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To: stand watie
if you've read my posts over the years, you'll KNOW that the damnyankees had NO INTENTION of freeing THEIR SLAVES!

If YOU were EDUCATED in the PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM, you are an EMBARASSMENT to PUBLIC education. IF YOU WERE educated IN a PRIVATE SCHOOL, you should SEEK a REFUND!

I'm talking about the CSA constitution.

chattal slavery was written into the US constitution as well AND it was dying a natural & un-lamented death.absent the WBTS, i believe that the industrial revolution in agriculture would have ended slavery within 10-15 years, perhaps sooner.

Show me one mention of slavery in the U.S. Constitution other than the 3/5 Compromise (which didn't mention slavery outright). Give me the exact wording of "chattel slavery" in the U.S. Constitution. Put up or shut the hell up.

Slavery was dying, eh? That still is totally unacceptable. That's like saying, "Oh, we're were gonna free the nigras in a few more years."

The rest of your nonsense is so far off topic that it is not worth a response. Somebody must have dropped you on your head when you were a baby, dude. You remind me of that dumb and mute dude on the movie Life who they called "Can't Get Right."

You can't get right, man. It's funny, yet it's sad. You JUST can't GET RIGHT, man cuz o' dem DAMNYANKEEFOOLS, man.

No mercy.
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66 posted on 11/12/2002 9:18:15 AM PST by rdb3
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To: stand watie
other than being a stone racist & bigot, lincoln was a "great man"!

Please explain to us slow-witted folks how Lincoln's alleged personal faults somehow excuse the base motivations of the Insurrection? Whether or not Lincoln ever wanted to end slavery is beside the point, because the rebels clearly thought he would. Southern states rebelled, and regardless of the alleged personal traits of particular politicians, the Federal Government headed by Lincoln was merely fulfilling its Constitutional obligation to "suppress Insurrections" when it fought back.

70 posted on 11/12/2002 9:25:13 AM PST by andy_card
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To: stand watie
if you've read my posts over the years, you'll KNOW that the damnyankees had NO INTENTION of freeing THEIR SLAVES!

Per the 1860 census, there were only 64 slaves in the free states.

According to the US Census of 1860, there were only 64 slaves in all of the "Free" States and Territories in that year: 29 in Utah Territory, 15 in Nebraska Territory, 2 in Kansas Territory, and 18 in New Jersey.

You should be ashamed.

Walt

93 posted on 11/12/2002 10:14:08 AM PST by WhiskeyPapa
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