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To: #3Fan
No, It helps me keep my core beliefs clear where I'm not misled by those that speak with expertize.

I suppose completely cutting oneself off from what is said in the world outside will do that. It will also do other things, such as leaving you in a state of ignorance.

Now you are different and look at the results. You believe crazy things Out of curiousity, what would those so-called "crazy things" be?

because you're so gullible.

Now that's a peculiar assertion for you to make. After all, am I not subjecting what you say to scrutiny rather than taking it as is in the fashion of a gullible person? It seems that you are at a lack of words by which to describe me, thus you simply assign what comes to mind without any basis beyond that.

You spend too much time reading other people's opinion and it causes you to believe crazy things. You believe that slavery had nothing to do with secession.

I do? Would you mind quoting me where I asserted that belief then? If you cannot do so, you should not shoot your mouth off in such a fashion.

You believe Lincoln was a communist.

I do? Would you mind quoting me where I asserted that belief then? If you cannot do so, you should not shoot your mouth off in such a fashion.

The reason you believe these things is that you haven't learned to discern truth from fiction

Wait a moment there. You have yet to establish that I believe what you assert me to believe. Having failed to do so, you cannot logically develop, with any basis in fact, a theory to explain a behavior you have yet to even establish. Until then, your allegation is without substance. It's a simple matter of reality - quod gratis asseritur, gratis negatur.

You don't understand that when you read another person's opinion, that the author will tell the truth 9 times in a row, then that author will throw in a subtle little lie that you can't detect and then all these little lies add up to a big problem and you're completely off-course from the truth.

In some ways, that is a fancy theory you've developed for yourself. Now, would you mind demonstrating to me what basis in reality, if any, that it has? If you cannot do that, you should not shoot your mouth off by alleging it in the first place.

Those that I choose to support are in higher positions than I and they got there by being intelligent and thoughful. You'll notice in the above post I said "most". Those very few I choose to support have their fundamentals correct and so having more experience in the intellectual circles of our society, I will listen to their expanded opinion.

Put in other terms, you look for people who support your view, determine them to be factually correct even though you personally lack the background or knowledge to make that determination by way of your own choice to ignore the statements of others, lend your endorsement to them since they support your view, and proceed to neglect everything else for no other reason than your dislike of what they have to say. BTW, is that not essentially what you just accused me of doing?

65 posted on 03/15/2003 5:48:58 PM PST by GOPcapitalist
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To: GOPcapitalist
I suppose completely cutting oneself off from what is said in the world outside will do that. It will also do other things, such as leaving you in a state of ignorance.

Cutting myself off? LOL In case you haven't noticed, we're posting on a conservative news forum where there are thousands of opinions posted every day about almost any topic under the sun by some of the wisest conversationalists in America. I've studied things that would spin your mind, that's for sure. You wrap yourself in the Civil War exclusively here. If anyone is isolating himself in ignorance, it's you. You are one-issue.

Now you are different and look at the results. You believe crazy things Out of curiousity, what would those so-called "crazy things" be?

Let's see. You believe slavery had nothing to do with secession. You believe Lincoln was a communist. You believe the steel industry in this country can be quickly rebuilt in an emergency from nothing.

Now that's a peculiar assertion for you to make. After all, am I not subjecting what you say to scrutiny rather than taking it as is in the fashion of a gullible person?

No. You play stupid by playing with semantics.

It seems that you are at a lack of words by which to describe me, thus you simply assign what comes to mind without any basis beyond that.

Lack of words? Only one is needed: crazy. You believe nutty things.

I do? Would you mind quoting me where I asserted that belief then? If you cannot do so, you should not shoot your mouth off in such a fashion.

See, you're proving my point. You spend a lot of time implying that slavery had nothing to do with secession but you won't confirm or deny what you believe now. Subtle lies.

I do? Would you mind quoting me where I asserted that belief then? If you cannot do so, you should not shoot your mouth off in such a fashion.

You're proving my point again about other people's opinion. You spend a lot of your time implying Lincoln was a communist but now you won't confirm or deny it now. Subtle lies.

Wait a moment there. You have yet to establish that I believe what you assert me to believe. Having failed to do so, you cannot logically develop, with any basis in fact, a theory to explain a behavior you have yet to even establish. Until then, your allegation is without substance. It's a simple matter of reality - quod gratis asseritur, gratis negatur.

Subtle lies. That's what you find in other people's opinion. You're not confirming or denying anything now, so you use subtle lies. You have proven my point. If you're opinion wasn't laced with subtle lies, then you would be more forthright. You are not being bold at all in these posts because you know I'm right and you know if you were to make a bold statement one way or the other, you would get nailed for it because of the subtle lies you have told.

In some ways, that is a fancy theory you've developed for yourself.

It's true. A lot of opinion is laced with subtle lies.

Now, would you mind demonstrating to me what basis in reality, if any, that it has? If you cannot do that, you should not shoot your mouth off by alleging it in the first place.

I see you're getting defensive. If you don't want to believe that some are experts at subtle lies, then have at it. Have a good trip through life. LOL You will continue to be fooled.

Put in other terms, you look for people who support your view, determine them to be factually correct even though you personally lack the background or knowledge to make that determination by way of your own choice to ignore the statements of others, lend your endorsement to them since they support your view, and proceed to neglect everything else for no other reason than your dislike of what they have to say. BTW, is that not essentially what you just accused me of doing?

You're missing a big part of what I said. I said they have to have their fundamentals right. You listen to liars. I don't.

66 posted on 03/15/2003 6:22:16 PM PST by #3Fan
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