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The Guild 6-5-2003 Need to vent about Hillary's book - This is the place
SFGate ^ | 6-4-2003 | CALVIN WOODWARD and SIOBHAN McDONOUGH

Posted on 06/05/2003 3:53:29 AM PDT by BigWaveBetty

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:42:41 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Hillary Rodham Clinton shows her softer side in her new book, taking some responsibility for "botching" health care reform and not being sensitive enough to people who thought she should be a traditional first lady.

But the New York senator does not apologize for the causes she felt passionate about.


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"Please feel sorry for me! I could hardly breathe. Gulping for air, I started crying!"


1 posted on 06/05/2003 3:53:29 AM PDT by BigWaveBetty
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs; Billie; mountaineer; Timeout; ClancyJ; daisyscarlett; LBGA; Rheo; ...
Good Morning!

And a warning... Hurl Alert!

2 posted on 06/05/2003 3:56:02 AM PDT by BigWaveBetty
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To: All
I don't believe that hillary! cried. Everyone knows that water will melt witches.
3 posted on 06/05/2003 4:00:28 AM PDT by BigWaveBetty
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To: BigWaveBetty

"It took me a while to figure out that what might not be important to me might seem very important to many men and women across America."

 

Narcissism 101


Are you a narcissist? Do you somone who is? Someone who suffers from Narcissistic Personality disorder has at least 5 of the following characteristics:

(1) has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements)

(2) is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love

(3) believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions)

(4) requires excessive admiration

(5) has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations

(6) is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends

(7) lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others

(8) is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her

(9) shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes

from The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders IV

updated May 27, 2003

 


4 posted on 06/05/2003 4:21:44 AM PDT by Fintan (If you drink, don't drive. Don't even putt. - Dean Martin)
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To: Fintan; BigWaveBetty; All
Good Morning. I'm on my first cup of coffee of the day, and I can't quite stomach reading the opening of this thread. I'll be back later to comment, when I have gained my senses and can offer an appropriate snide remark.
5 posted on 06/05/2003 4:42:59 AM PDT by Iowa Granny (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level,, then beat you with experience.)
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To: Fintan
Thank you Dr. Fintan, your diagnosis is right on the money!
6 posted on 06/05/2003 4:49:44 AM PDT by BigWaveBetty
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To: Iowa Granny
Good morning IG, sorry to upset your stomach this morning but think of it this way. Consider this thread the vehicle to desensitize you to the coming all hillary, all the time for the next few weeks.:-)
7 posted on 06/05/2003 4:56:04 AM PDT by BigWaveBetty
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To: BigWaveBetty
THE CHUTZPAH QUEEN
or
IT TAKES GALL
by
THE BITCH FROM HELL


8 posted on 06/05/2003 5:01:52 AM PDT by ricpic
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To: BigWaveBetty
The very best thing about this book - is that it is going to generate many regurgitations of all the "forgotten by some" Clinton crimes.
9 posted on 06/05/2003 6:15:52 AM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: BigWaveBetty
Is she wearing a wedding ring under that non-diamond other ring? I can't quite make it out.
10 posted on 06/05/2003 6:20:18 AM PDT by Carolinamom
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To: BigWaveBetty
Peter Fenn, Julian Epstein, Ellen Ratner and the usual suspects certainly have their work cut out for them in their attempts to spin Her Heinous into Mother Teresa this week. Bless their shriveled black hearts.
11 posted on 06/05/2003 6:31:34 AM PDT by Kathleen
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To: BigWaveBetty

12 posted on 06/05/2003 6:36:23 AM PDT by Carolina
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt
R.E. Tyrell writes today in the American Spectator (posting entire article)


Living Hillary

By R. Emmett Tyrrell, Jr.
Published 6/5/2003 12:12:00 AM
Washington -- Frankly, when I heard that Hillary Rodham Clinton had signed a deal to write a book for $8 million I doubted that she would write a word of it. For one thing, whenever Hillary testifies she lies. Any prosecutor who has ever pursued her knows that, and any publisher willing to fork out $8 million for a book wants it to be at least plausible. For another thing, when she published her last book, It Takes a Village, she did not write the book -- and, of course, lied about that. She claimed the mawkish little monograph was from her pen and her pen only, when actually it was written by Barbara Feinman. Everyone suspected Hillary had lied about writing the book. It was simply too free of lies for it to be her work. Angered by Hillary’s insistence that she alone had written the book, Miss Feinman leaked the news that Hillary held séances with Eleanor Roosevelt. Naturally, Hillary then lied about that too.

With this new book, Living History, an account of her life in the White House during the late scandals, again there is speculation that others did the writing. I have yet to read the book so I do not know if it contains a sufficient number of lies to sustain her claim of authorship. From what I have read I do believe that she wrote at least some of the book. Apparently in Living History she claims that from January 1998 to August 1998 she believed her husband’s claim that he had not had sex with the White House intern, Monica Lewinsky. That is a sufficiently implausible lie to conclude that it is a genuine effort by Hillary.

Lewinsky’s relationship was precisely the kind of relationship Bill Clinton had been having for years, right down to the trademark Clinton Biblical exegesis about oral sex not being adultery. Just four years before the revelations about Monica, the Arkansas state troopers in the pages of The American Spectator described assignations between Clinton and women, some of them being government employees, that involved precisely the same sex acts that Monica revealed. Moreover those of us familiar with the Clintons know that through all her years in Arkansas Mrs. Clinton had been engaged in propitiating the victims of her husband’s active libido. Surely when the story came out of the White House intern servicing her husband Hillary knew it was true.

Hillary probably also wrote the lines she claims to have uttered on August 15, 1998, after Bill told her in the White House that he had been lying about his blameless relationship with Lewinsky and that there had been intimacy. “I could hardly breath. Gulping for air, I started crying and yelling at him….” That sounds like Hillary to me, particularly the yelling.

In fact the very nature of this lie is pure Hillary. Hillary and, for that matter, Bill, lie when there is no reason to lie. Who would blame her, if she were now to write that, yes, when the Lewinsky story broke she began to suspect it was true? Or for that matter why could she not now maintain a decorous silence about the whole embarrassing matter? No one would blame her for not bringing it up again. The country was supposed to move on, she told us. The country has, but here Hillary is again lying when she does not have to. And the lies keep coming.

According to the Associated Press’s report on the book, Hillary claims that during the six months when her husband was lying to her, to his staff, and to the nation about Monica, “For me, the Lewinsky imbroglio seemed like just another vicious scandal manufactured by political opponents.” There were no “vicious scandals manufactured by political opponents.” Or at least there were very few.

Most of the scandals were acts Bill and Hillary actually committed. They did not need “political opponents” to “manufacture” them. All that was needed was a free press to report them and federal prosecutors to pursue them. In the end Clinton paid fines, gave up his license to practice law, and agreed to a huge financial settlement with Paula Corbin Jones. I have always thought that other women such as the abused Kathleen Willey and raped Juanita Broaddrick deserved settlements too.

As for Hillary, Independent counsel Robert W. Ray, in his last report on the Clintons, asserted that though there was not sufficient evidence to prosecute she had given factually inaccurate testimony and Whitewater involved criminal activity. Well, that is what we have come to expect from her, dishonesty. She is now the most popular Democrat in the country.


R. Emmett Tyrrell, Jr. is the editor in chief of The American Spectator, a contributing editor to the New York Sun, and an Adjunct Fellow at the Hudson Institute.

13 posted on 06/05/2003 6:44:35 AM PDT by Carolina
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To: BigWaveBetty; Iowa Granny
From The Sun UK:

Bill lied to me on Monica

“I was furious and getting more so by the second. He just stood there saying over and over again, ‘I’m sorry. I’m so sorry. I was trying to protect you and Chelsea.’”

Hillary insists that until that moment she believed Clinton had merely been foolish for paying attention to Lewinsky, who now runs a website selling handbags.

Hillary adds: “I was dumbfounded, heartbroken and outraged that I’d believed him at all.”

She describes how the President’s eyes welled with tears when she ordered him to confess his 18-month fling to 18-year-old Chelsea.

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But aides fear Hillary’s decision to put the scandal back in the limelight could hit her chances of becoming the first female US president.

One former White House staffer who worked for her said the explicit detail could remind the public of the family’s sordid past — or provoke pity and show her as a truthful, wronged woman.

The aide added: “This seems like a gamble. I hope it works but I think it’s going to open a lot of old wounds.”

But last night Hillary said: “This is a story about an extraordinary time in my life and in the life of our country.

“I think the book will give people more insight and perhaps answer questions, but it’s also my story and obviously I will be pleased when people can judge for themselves.”

Note to Shrillery: WE ARE NOT PLEASED!!
14 posted on 06/05/2003 7:40:41 AM PDT by Carolina
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To: Carolina
Good posts, Carolina.

Actually, I have come to forgive Hillary Clinton for everything done in the past. It's the present and future damage to the country which the Clinton Crime Machine is doing and will do if not stopped that is a bit of a "hanging chad".

15 posted on 06/05/2003 7:48:04 AM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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From The Boston Herald:

Hill banished Bill to isle doghouse

Former first lady Hillary Clinton confesses that, during her sex-scandal-sullied summer vacation on Martha's Vineyard in 1998, she and the Philanderer-in-Chief slept in separate quarters.
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But Track fans knew way back then that Bill was out of the big bed. In fact, the First Couple didn't just sleep in separate beds at their borrowed compound in Edgartown.

Oh, nooooo. Most of the time they were in separate houses! Bubba was banished to the guest cottage all the way across the lawn. Right by the pig pen!

Of course, Hillary's recollection of things is a tad different.

``He slept downstairs, I slept upstairs,'' she writes in ``Living History,'' the former first lady's memoir of eight years in the White House - including, of course, the fallout from Bill's carryings-on with Monica Lewinsky.

Well, that's technically correct. Because Bill did have a room on the first floor. But Bubba spent most of his time that summer holed up with his fellow hound, Buddy, in a small guesthouse that he used as a gym, office and presidential doghouse!

The guest digs are not far from the pigpen where Cambridge real estate czar Dick Friedman - the Clintons' Vineyard host - kept his prize porkers, Lucy, Di and the late Henrietta.

According to Hil's memoirs, which were slipped to the Associated Press, Clinton lied to her about Lewinsky but was forced to confess on Aug. 15, 1998, a week before he had to spill his guts to the grand jury.

Four days later, the Clintons arrived on The Rock.

``Buddy, the dog, came along to keep Bill company,'' Hillary writes. ``He was the only member of our family who was still willing to.''

Hillary describes a real fun family holiday. While on the island, she felt ``nothing but profound sadness, disappointment and unresolved anger. I could barely speak to Bill, and when I did, it was a tirade.''

Of course, it was well chronicled Clinton appeared to be grounded for most of that stay. His daily - and sometimes twice-daily - rounds of golf were radically downsized to just a couple of outings.

And when the First Family first arrived, the couple didn't even get off the plane together!

In fact, things got so ugly during the Vineyard vacation, at one point, the prez - in a real-life ``Wag the Dog'' scenerio - rocketed off The Rock to rocket (unsuccessfully) Osama bin Laden.

A spokeswoman for Lewinsky said the former presidential paramour has no comment on the Hillary book.

``She hasn't seen it yet,'' said Barbara Hutson.

The book hits shelves Monday.


16 posted on 06/05/2003 7:49:41 AM PDT by Carolina
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To: Carolina
WHAT could possibly have made that woman think she should discuss their SLEEPNG ARRANGEMENTS?!!!! And she even had to lie about that!

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OK, think about this.

In this book Hillary says he woke her up the day before his grand jury testimony in August to tell her he'd lied to her. Well, think back. When she went on the Today Show in January, 1998 and claimed there was a "vast right wing conspiracy", Matt Lauer asked her how she learned about Lewinsky.

Hillary said Bill woke her up and said "You won't believe what's in the papers this morning".

No way he woke her up BOTH times.

Here's how it went:

Bill: I'm going to agree to go before the grand jury...I'll have to plead for forgiveness.

Hill: Yes, that's the best strategy. Now, you know you'll have to come in my bedroom, close the door and pretend you just "confessed" to me...right? I'll do some screaming and you'll walk out looking contrite.

Bill: Yeah, that'll work. But why don't you try choking and gulping for air....that turns me on.

17 posted on 06/05/2003 10:14:44 AM PDT by Timeout (Always remember.....)
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To: Timeout
LMAO!!
18 posted on 06/05/2003 10:31:30 AM PDT by Carolina
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To: Fintan
Perfect...all the way down to the tag.
19 posted on 06/05/2003 10:50:52 AM PDT by lodwick (Cheers)
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To: Carolina
Registered nails another one. Thanks for bringing it here.
20 posted on 06/05/2003 10:52:16 AM PDT by lodwick (Cheers)
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