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**** FR Big Brother 4 Thread ****
CBS ^ | 7-9-2003 | Me

Posted on 07/09/2003 8:49:12 PM PDT by jmc813

It's summer once again, which means it is time for what many dub "the ultimate reality show", Big Brother! For 3 months, 13 contestants, or "houseguests" must live together in a one-story house with absolutely NO contact from the outside world, while cameras and microphones capture their every move 24 hours a day. Each week, one houseguest is voted out with the sole remaining houseguest taking home half a million dollars.

This year, the producers have introduced the "X-Factor" to Big Brother. 10 of the 13 houseguests were stunned to find out that an ex-boyfriend or girlfriend of theirs was also a houseguest.

I have once again given up any hope of having a life this summer and have shelled out the $10 a month to watch the houseguests 24 hours a day on the internet.

Let's meet this years crop of contestants...


Alison

Job: Retail Manager
Age: 22
Marital Status: Single
Hometown:Pittsburgh, PA
Jeff's Comments: Alison, while seeming sweet, is definitely this year's "house ditz". Not that that's necessarily a bad thing. Recall last season when Lisa, considered far from the smartest houseguest took home the $500,000 prize.


Amanda

Job: Bar Manager
Age: 25
Marital Status: Single
Hometown:Chicago, IL
Jeff's Comments: Amanda and her ex Scott had some turbulent moments when they were first thrust back together. As of earlier today, though, they seem to be getting along quite well. According to chatter on the Internet feeds, expect Amanda to go sooner rather than later.


Dana

Job: Karate School Manager
Age: 28
Marital Status: Single
Hometown:Queens, NY
Jeff's Comments: Dana is one of three houseguests without an ex in the game. She has quite the feisty atitude, and I expect her to be involved in manty arguments, leading up to her getting booted around week 5 or so.


David

Job: Former Army Ranger
Age: 21
Marital Status: Single
Hometown:Deerfield Beach, FL
Jeff's Comments:David seems like a great guy with a super sense of humor. However, I expect the houseguests to be intimidated by his experince as a Ranger, and to give him the boot mid-game.


Erika

Job: Pilates Instructor
Age: 33
Marital Status: Single
Hometown:Los Angeles, CA
Jeff's Comments: This girl might just take it all the way. As seen in episode 2, she is not in the house to "have a good time" or "make new friends", she's in it to win it. From watching the Internet feeds, it seems as if she's already incorporating the "fly below the radar" strategy, that more often than not a good one. Also, she's a dead ringer for last year's winner, Lisa.


Jack

Job: Retired FBI Agent
Age: 58
Marital Status: Divorced
Hometown:Birmingham, AL
Jeff's Comments: Jack seems to be a very nice guy, looking much youger than his 58 years. If he can overcome the age barrier and assimilate with the other houseguests, he'll go far. Unfortunately, around week 9 or so, he will succomb to the Big Brother "middle age man curse" and get booted a la George, Kent, and Gerry in previous seasons.


Jee

Job: Bookkeeper
Age: 23
Marital Status: Single
Hometown:Elmhurst, NY
Jeff's Comments: Since entering the house, the most strained ex-couple is definitely Jee and Jun (say it out loud, it's fun). Jee seems to be a down-to-earth fellow who gets along well with all of the houseguests othjer than Jun. If he can survive the first few weeks, he will be a contender to win it all.


Jun

Job: Investment Manager
Age: 27
Marital Status: Single
Hometown:New York, NY
Jeff's Comments: Jun (pronounced June) is this years house chef. That alone will allow her to finish in the top half. Since being reunited, Jun has spent a total of literally less than one minute speaking to her boyfriend of 5 and a half years, Jee.


Justin

Job: Headhunter
Age: 22
Marital Status: Single
Hometown:Pittsburgh, PA
Jeff's Comments: Alison's ex, Justin has been surprisingly quiet thusfar in the game. I'm going to wait a few days before making a prediction on how he will do.


Michelle

Job: College Student
Age: 19
Marital Status: Single
Hometown:Boca Raton, FL
Jeff's Comments: At 19 years old, the beautiful Michelle is the youngest houseguest in Big Brother history. I predict tht she will be out within the first 3 weeks, otherwise, she will be one of the final three, as a result of the other houseguests underestimating her due to her age. On the Internet feeds, she has stated on numerous occasions that she drinks, so it should be interesting to see if she trys to sneak a few as the season goes on, and if so, what Big Brother's reaction to underage drinking in the house will be.


Nathan

Job: Personal Trainer
Age: 23
Marital Status: Single
Hometown:Edmond, OK
Jeff's Comments: Nathan is the "stud" of the house this year. Recall Hardy from season 2 and Roddy from season 3. The ladies of the house have already gone ga-ga for him. I'm predicting a week 6-7 eviction for Nathan, as the "stud" never wins any reality show, ever.


Robert

Job: Restaurasnt Manager
Age: 33
Marital Status: Single
Hometown:Los Angeles, CA
Jeff's Comments: Robert is another houseguest who I have not had much of a chance to observe on the Internet feeds. The one bit of information I was able to gather about him is that he was an alcoholic, and recovered a few years ago with the help of his father. I have a suspicion that Robert may have a bit of an attitude, but if he can keep it under control, watch for him at the end.


Scott

Job: Waiter
Age: 33
Marital Status: Single
Hometown:Chicago, IL
Jeff's Comments: Get used to the knit cap you see in Scott's head shot, as he has it on constantly. This guy cusses like it's going out of style. As entertaining as he is to watch, I expect Scott to have a fair share of conflicts with the houseguests and get booted early.

Tommorrow, I will provide links to great web sites devoted to Big Brother to help further enhance your viewing pleasure this year. If you would like to get pinged to this thread when it is updated, either let me know ion this thread or FReepmail me. If you know of anyone who might be interested in this thread, please let them know.


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1 posted on 07/09/2003 8:49:12 PM PDT by jmc813
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To: 24Karet; 43for8; 4wvueers; agarrett; alisasny; Amore; Anitius Severinus Boethius; ...
cuz_it_aint_their_money was kind enough to lend me his Survivor ping list in order for me to find out if any of you would be interested in joining the Big Brother 4 ping list. If you are interested, please let me know on this thread or via FReepmail, if not, do nothing, and you will receive no further pings.
2 posted on 07/09/2003 8:54:17 PM PDT by jmc813
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To: All
A Recall AND a Fundraiser? I'm toast.
Let's get this over with FAST. Please contribute!

3 posted on 07/09/2003 8:55:35 PM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: Wrigley; Jabba the Nutt; Chancellor Palpatine; carton253; billbears; Chief Inspector Clouseau; ...
jreimer was kind enough to lend me his Amazing Race ping list in order for me to find out if any of you would be interested in joining the Big Brother 4 ping list. If you are interested, please let me know on this thread or via FReepmail, if not, do nothing, and you will receive no further pings.
4 posted on 07/09/2003 8:56:52 PM PDT by jmc813
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To: jmc813
I'd like to be in on this one!

Thanks for the ping....
5 posted on 07/09/2003 10:39:23 PM PDT by Peace4EarthNow
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To: jmc813
Oh, hell no!
6 posted on 07/10/2003 2:42:38 AM PDT by tdadams
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To: jmc813
Count me in.
7 posted on 07/10/2003 3:14:51 AM PDT by Stentor
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To: jmc813
I watched parts of it while doing some household stuff. Liked it, especially the X factor, which should really keep the pot stirring.
8 posted on 07/10/2003 4:51:51 AM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine
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To: jmc813
Sounds like fun!
9 posted on 07/10/2003 5:21:49 AM PDT by krb (the statement on the other side of this tagline is false)
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To: jmc813
Please keep me on the ping list.
10 posted on 07/10/2003 5:53:16 AM PDT by carton253 (You are free to form your own opinions, but not your own facts.)
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To: jmc813
This is going to be a great season, I'll ping some people here later.
11 posted on 07/10/2003 8:49:14 AM PDT by Dengar01
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To: jmc813
Put me on your ping list.

This is going to be an interesting season. I loathe half of the contestants already.

Is it my imagination, or did the producers put a bit more emphasis on physical attributes this season?

12 posted on 07/10/2003 3:17:05 PM PDT by SC Swamp Fox (Aim small, miss small.)
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Does anyone have the live feed? It is pretty crazy tonight. They are ripping on the BB3 Houseguests right now.

This thread needs to get more lively.

13 posted on 07/10/2003 8:30:50 PM PDT by Dengar01
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To: jmc813
ADD me to the BB ping list THANKS
14 posted on 07/11/2003 8:15:50 AM PDT by alisasny
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To: Stentor; Luis Gonzalez; Peace4EarthNow; Chancellor Palpatine; krb; carton253; Dengar01; ...
Happy Saturday, BB FReepers. Hope everyone is enjoying their weekend. Here in the NY area, Big Brother was postponed until about 2am last night, due to the Yankees game (Have I ever told you how much I hate baseball?). I tried to stay up, but fel asleep halfway through. I'm now in the process of downloading the episode, and will give y'all a quick recap after I watch it.

I need some feedback. As I've stated, I subscribe to the 24/7 live Internet feeds. Because of this, I find out what happens several days in advance of the Tuesday and Friday shows. For instance, the Power of Veto competition was held yesterday, and will not be televised until Tuesday. With that in mind, would you prefer to keep up in real-time, or wait for the show to air to be surprised? I could always use white text for spoilers, so that those who wish to read them could without ruining it for everyone else. For an example of white text, drag your mouse after this period. Spoiler Text Example.

Let me know what y'all trhink would be the best way to run this thread.

15 posted on 07/12/2003 11:03:54 AM PDT by jmc813 (Check out the FR Big Brother 4 thread! http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/943368/posts)
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To: jmc813
White text is good, but if you can follow reimer's TAR timing pattern, that would work out just fine. TAR threads seem to work better after, even though survivor threads flow well in real time.
16 posted on 07/12/2003 11:10:04 AM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine (the preview button is my friend...the preview button is my friend...the preview button is my friend.)
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To: jmc813
I don't mind the posting of spoilers...
17 posted on 07/12/2003 2:41:29 PM PDT by carton253 (You are free to form your own opinions, but not your own facts.)
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To: jmc813
i have no problem with spoilers..its summer time..i am busy..i may miss shows anyway....Do what you have to do...: ) and thanks for being interested : )

I am still sick that they kept the last BB house open during 911.

18 posted on 07/12/2003 3:43:50 PM PDT by alisasny
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To: jmc813
Count me in.
19 posted on 07/12/2003 7:03:53 PM PDT by Tazlo
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To: jmc813; jriemer; cuz_it_aint_their_money
I found a GREAT new reality show tonight on ESPN2 - Beg, Borrow or Deal. Two teams of four race from South Beach to Mt. Rushmore. They start with no money, and get a list of HARD sports tasks in order to get food and transport. They can beg also stuff off of strangers, but can do only one task per state.

Neither team could do a 200 yard swim medley in under 4 minutes, were having trouble getting pool managers to cooperate on doing jumps off 10 meter boards, and couldn't talk a TV station into letting them do a sportscast. Finally, one team made it to the swimming hall of fame, for a prize of the use of an SUV for 12 hours.

20 posted on 07/12/2003 9:36:58 PM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine (the preview button is my friend...the preview button is my friend...the preview button is my friend.)
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
I'm going to take a look into it. Sounds good.
21 posted on 07/13/2003 6:42:52 AM PDT by jriemer (We are a Republic not a Democracy)
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To: jmc813
I want to fondle this michelle chick..
22 posted on 07/13/2003 6:50:48 AM PDT by Jhoffa_ (BREAKING: Supreme Court Finds Right to Sodomy, Sammy & Frodo elated.)
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To: jmc813
Put me on the ping list.

I subscribed to the feeds last year as Josh was having his meltdown. I didn't want to take a chance at missing that this year, so I subscribed before the first show started.

Last night alone was worth the $25. Scott's meltdown, tantrum and eviction was priceless.

In light of what happened with Scott last night, does anybody know if evictions will continue this week?
23 posted on 07/13/2003 8:21:33 AM PDT by dangermouse
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
That sounds very cool. I'm definitely going to have to check that out. I hope it strated erecently and I haven't missed much.
24 posted on 07/13/2003 10:04:45 AM PDT by jmc813 (Check out the FR Big Brother 4 thread! http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/943368/posts)
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To: dangermouse
In light of what happened with Scott last night, does anybody know if evictions will continue this week?

I'm looking into it now. I'll post a brief update aboiut the Scott situation shortly.

25 posted on 07/13/2003 11:27:08 AM PDT by jmc813 (Check out the FR Big Brother 4 thread! http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/943368/posts)
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Wel, it was quite the eventful evening in the Big Brother house last night. For only the second time in Big Brother history, a houseguest has been evicted by the producers.

Unfortunately, I missed the drama on the internet feeds, so here's a brief synopsis of what I've taken off of sites that summarize the live feds....

Apparently without warning, Scott went into a rage, throwing several of the dining room chairs. When asked by the producers on the intercom to come to the Diary Room, he responded to the effect of "F$%^ You, I don't have to go to the F$%^ing diary room. Come f@#$ing get me if you want me.

Several minutes later, he had a conversation with Amanda (his ex-girlfriend), in which he revealed to her that he has been suffering from Human Pappilloma Virus (aka genital warts). He also admitted that he has been depressed in the year since they had broken up.

Shortly after this conversation, Scott called a house meeting in which he revealed his STD to the houseguests. Many of them were freaked out by this revelation, being that they share a toilet with him.

The internet feeds were blocked out for about 20 minutes after this meeting. When they returned, Scott was gone.

Dangermouse, since you saw the feeds, please add anything to this synopsis that may be missing.

Speaking of Dangermouse, he brought up a great question, how will the producers adapt the game to one less houseguest. Here are the options I can think of:

a.)Evictions are cancelled for this week

b.)Evictions go on as usual this week, and one week later in the season will be a "no-eviction" week.

c.)The producers bring in an "alternate" houseguest to replace Scott, maybe even another ex.

Needless to say, Tuesday's episode should be VERY interesting. Don't miss it.

26 posted on 07/13/2003 12:11:37 PM PDT by jmc813 (Check out the FR Big Brother 4 thread! http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/943368/posts)
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To: jmc813
Several minutes later, he had a conversation with Amanda (his ex-girlfriend), in which he revealed to her that he has been suffering from Human Pappilloma Virus (aka genital warts). He also admitted that he has been depressed in the year since they had broken up.

Close. She already knew - it was probably a factor in their breakup. When Scott found out about it, he accused Amanda of giving it to him. She was tested and is clean. I also understand that he is on anti-depressants as a result of the situation.

Robert told the girls that they were in the pool with him. That got them wondering if it can be transferred via the pool or toliet. That sent Allison into hysterics and she started crying, then she started puking.

Big Brother called somebody into the DR to assure everybody that it was not contagious via the toliet.

Big Brother pulled Arnold Shapiro out of bed and they finally got Scott into the DR and then gave him the boot.

27 posted on 07/13/2003 12:43:40 PM PDT by dangermouse
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To: jmc813; jriemer
I'm trying to find the site for this season, but here it is for the last one. Last night's episode was grueling.
28 posted on 07/13/2003 1:14:14 PM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine (the preview button is my friend...the preview button is my friend...the preview button is my friend.)
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To: Stentor; Luis Gonzalez; Peace4EarthNow; Chancellor Palpatine; krb; carton253; Dengar01; ...
Quick white text spoiler stuff below...

Dana won the Power of Veto competition. She elected not to use it, therefore Jee and Amanda remain the nominees for eviction.

29 posted on 07/13/2003 10:06:24 PM PDT by jmc813 (Check out the FR Big Brother 4 thread! http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/943368/posts)
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To: dangermouse
Is it just me, or Allison just a little bit high-strung?
30 posted on 07/14/2003 6:10:28 AM PDT by carton253 (You are free to form your own opinions, but not your own facts.)
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To: jmc813
Big Brother housemate evicted for tantrum
31 posted on 07/14/2003 12:28:37 PM PDT by alisasny
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To: alisasny
'Big Brother' Contestant Kicked Off Show
32 posted on 07/14/2003 1:34:06 PM PDT by Dont Mention the War
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To: jmc813
Please add me to the list.

Spoilers are fine by me, I probably won't be able to watch every episode anyway. I have a 13 year old son, and this isn't the type program I let him watch, so if hes around, I am not.

33 posted on 07/14/2003 2:36:16 PM PDT by codercpc
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To: jmc813
Please add me to the ping list too!
34 posted on 07/14/2003 2:56:41 PM PDT by Mrs.O'Strategery
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To: jmc813
Ping me.
35 posted on 07/14/2003 2:58:36 PM PDT by GOP_Proud
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To: jmc813
Horrible to admit, but I do watch the show when I can. I caught the first night and got interested, as this seemed like a pretty good batch of contestants. So yes, ping me please.

I hadn't heard of Scott's eviction unti just now....I think he would have been voted out early anyway. But now, what does this do to the original alliance of eight? Alliance of seven? Or reshuffling?


I like Amazing Race better, as the travel interests me. Do you have a link to that thread?

I don't give a hoot who wins either show. Just watching the gyrations is fun. However, I do like Dana and Jun, who both seem like good and reasonably bright ladies. I hope they hang in.
36 posted on 07/14/2003 4:01:23 PM PDT by PoisedWoman (Fed up with the CORRUPT liberal media)
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I like Amazing Race better, as the travel interests me. Do you have a link to that thread?

jreimer maintains a great Amazing Race thread here.

I hadn't heard of Scott's eviction unti just now....I think he would have been voted out early anyway. But now, what does this do to the original alliance of eight? Alliance of seven? Or reshuffling?

The original alliance seems to still be intact, though there are concerns about Dana's loyalty at this point. An interesting sub-alliance is developing between Jack, Erica, and Daivd. They are also considering possibly bringing Michelle into this group.

37 posted on 07/14/2003 4:33:51 PM PDT by jmc813 (Check out the FR Big Brother 4 thread! http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/943368/posts)
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Hi folks. I'd like your input on a feature I'd like to run once a week or so. I think it would be neat to reminisce about houseguests from seasons past. I'll find pictures, live feed transcripts, and attempt to find out what they are up to these days.

That said, does anyone have any particular requests for houseguests I should research?

38 posted on 07/14/2003 4:38:16 PM PDT by jmc813 (Check out the FR Big Brother 4 thread! http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/943368/posts)
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To: jmc813
Thanks for link to Amazing Race.

I haven't watched BB since the first one. I can tell you that Miss Makeup (Miss Washington) occasionally shows up on the local PBS station at pledge time asking for donations. She seems to have gained some weight and another ton of makeup. No clue what she does on her off days.
39 posted on 07/14/2003 5:14:27 PM PDT by PoisedWoman (Fed up with the CORRUPT liberal media)
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To: jmc813
I'd be interested to hear what Chicken George and Josh are up to from the first season.

Spoilers this season would be fine by me, too.
40 posted on 07/14/2003 5:17:24 PM PDT by luv2lurkhere
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To: jmc813
Jason would be interesting research. A few days ago, one of the current houseguests mentioned that Jason moved to LA and now drives a mercedes. He supposedly gives speeches.
41 posted on 07/14/2003 5:35:35 PM PDT by dangermouse
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To: jmc813
I'd love to know what Curtis (from the 1st season) is up to now.

Also from the same show... Karen & that girl with the wild colored hair (her name escapes me right now).
42 posted on 07/14/2003 7:30:34 PM PDT by Peace4EarthNow
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To: Peace4EarthNow
that girl with the wild colored hair (her name escapes me right now).

You're thinking of Brittany, aka the cuddle-slut. I got some great reccomendations. I'll try to find out what's currently going on with as many of them as possible.

43 posted on 07/14/2003 8:43:59 PM PDT by jmc813 (Check out the FR Big Brother 4 thread! http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/943368/posts)
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To: jmc813
Found the Beg, Borrow and Deal 2 website. They're rerunning episode 1 tonight at 6 PM EDT, with a new one at 8 PM EDT.

The site.

The task list - it is a sonofabitch, and is not prearranged. You have to beg these people to use every facility, to show up at your pathetic attempt, etc. Not to mention that some of the events are impossible (like the 400 meter relay, the swim medley, etc.).

44 posted on 07/15/2003 4:41:00 AM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine
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To: jmc813
Good morning folks. I'll be posting a quick preview with predictions for tonights live show in a bit. In the meantime, check out this thread about a bit of hanky-panky going on in the Head of Household room last night.

One more quick announcement; for those of you in the New York metropolitan area, this Friday's episode will be shown immediately following the Yankee game which begins at 7:00. Have I ever told you how much I hate baseball?

45 posted on 07/16/2003 7:22:10 AM PDT by jmc813 (Check out the FR Big Brother 4 thread! http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/943368/posts)
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Just wanted to post a quick preview of the first live episode airing at 9:00 EDT this evening.

Tonight, Amanda and Jee are up for eviction from the house. Or are they? As we saw last night, Dana won the knot untying competition and Power of Veto. Whether she decides to use it or not will be addressed early in tonight's episode. For those of you who cannot wait, Thre is a white-text spoiler posted by me above.

Perhaps more important than the eviction will be tonight's Head of Household challenge. Tonight's HoH is particularly important as only 6 members of the "Original 8" alliance will be eligible to win as opposed to 5 non-alliance members. Certain people winning tonight could trigger a major shift of power in the game.

For those of you with live feed subscriptions, I strongly recommend you watch the houseguests immediately after the show ends, as strategizing is typically at it's heaviest early on in a Head of Household's reign.

Enjoy the show!

46 posted on 07/16/2003 1:28:14 PM PDT by jmc813 (Check out the FR Big Brother 4 thread! http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/943368/posts)
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Thanks JMC....that was a pretty good show last night. Sorry to see Scott had such a hard time though. Almost all of the other players, except for Jee & Jack, seem so stuck up & obnoxious.

I felt pretty sorry for Jee when they started cutting (butchering) his hair, especially when Jun kept laughing at him.

Will have to see what else happens tonight!
47 posted on 07/16/2003 1:47:36 PM PDT by Peace4EarthNow
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To: Peace4EarthNow
Almost all of the other players, except for Jee & Jack, seem so stuck up & obnoxious.

Agreed, except that I personally would add David and possibly Erika to that list. Alison, Dana, and Jun though, whew! After last night, I won't be shedding a tear to see any of them go.

48 posted on 07/16/2003 2:05:15 PM PDT by jmc813 (Check out the FR Big Brother 4 thread! http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/943368/posts)
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To: jmc813
This should be an interesting week with Jee being HoH. You know one of the original 7 (now that crazy scott was kicked off) is gone. I'm betting Nathan and Jack will be put up on the block this week, but I've been wrong in the past.
49 posted on 07/16/2003 8:47:10 PM PDT by Dengar01
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To: Dengar01
Well, I hope Jun and Alison are put up. Jun is so mean to Jee. Alison is such a phony, pretending to care about her boyfriend and smooching on Nathan all the time.
50 posted on 07/17/2003 11:03:50 AM PDT by usflagwaver
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