Two more rumors bite the dust (Ride home and torn clothing just not true, sources say)

The Vail Daily ^ | 8/4/03 | The Vail Daily

[Smogger]

Two more reports regarding the Kobe Bryant case circulating among part of the national media were debunked Monday.

Media reports that the 19-year-old woman who Bryant allegedly assaulted received a ride home is not the case, sources said Monday. Reports that her clothing was torn are also untrue, sources also.

Sources told the Daily that the alleged victim managed to get herself home by 11:50 p.m., June 30, after ending the shift at the Lodge at Cordillera at around 11:10 p.m.

They also said that while her clothing was disheveled and showed signs that something had occurred, it wasn't torn or ripped, as some reports indicated.

"Some of the reports made it sound like something out of a bad movie," said one source. "It wasn't like that."

The reports are part of a larger set of rumors and gossip that have been circulating across the country about the case. Among them:

- That the alleged victim was in the room two hours. It was only about 20 minutes.

- When she came down, she was hysterical. She was not. Sources said she was in a stupor and a state of shock.

- A few days before the incident, the alleged victim had accused another hotel worker of sexual harassment, getting him fired. Not true, said the man who was terminated. It was not the alleged victim.

Cameras in court

Eagle County Judge Fred Gannett ruled that not only is Bryant required to appear at 4 p.m. Wednesday, he also ruled Monday that there will be cameras in the courtroom.

Gannett denied a motion by Bryant's attorneys asking Gannett to reconsider an earlier order allowing one video camera and one still camera in the courtroom while Bryant is advised of the charges against him, and also advised of his rights.

[Brandon]

My "account" (I wasn't there) is a hypothetical, based on anonymous quotes in news articles that said she spoke briefly on the topic only after being badgered by other party-goers. I don't know what (if anything) was said to her; I don't know what (if anything) she said in return. We will not know until and unless others present testify under oath -- and that only if the judge decides it is relevant.

[NittanyLion]

Do go on about OJ... Were not discussing OJ. Were discussing a completely unrelated case with a completely different set of circumstances.

Translation: "I can't wander off into different topics without admitting my blatant double standard, so I'll avoid the question entirely."

[NittanyLion]

It is ONE report. Why do you accept it as gospel?

Because it supports her theory. So it must be accepted as truth while all other stories are studiously avoided.

[NittanyLion]

The defenders of the accuser are in a similar position to the Westerfield defenders. The wagons are circled, and every question against the accuser is met with scorn, or contempt, or personal attack. The almost mechanical automation of the reactions is Stepford-like.

An observation that could be equally applied to folks on both sides of this case, based on what I've read. What a strange perspective...

[Overtaxed]

If you say so. Or are you planning to post some of the email addies for the people who can back you up? Probably not. I have you pegged more for the cheap "toss off" lines.

Yes, she has a nice 3600 square foot house.

[NittanyLion]

He never said LEAVE the forum; he said LEAVE these threads. You all aren't that important.

As opposed to folks like yourself, whose views obviously far outweigh those of any who might disagree...

Actually, I believe people just stopped posting on these threads because they got tired of you all asking the same questions over and over and -- even when given an answer -- asking it again.

Well, I don't have an opinion over Bryant's guilt or innocence, but it appears to me that, in this regard, both sides share the blame equally.

I'm sure you'd all be pleased if nobody came on these threads to point out any statement, even the rumors, that MIGHT shine some light on this case that doesn't trash Kobe Bryant.

Likewise.

Then you could all just sit around and talk about how moral you all are and especially how non- judgmental and fair you are.

You mean like you're doing right now?

[Constitution Day]

I don't really have a dog in this hunt, but I have indeed been to Howlin's home and it's very nice.
The 3600 ft² number sounds about right, as well.

Regards,
CD

[sinkspur]

Why are you attacking others who think he's guilty?

I'm not "attacking" (the word itself is inflammatory) anybody. But you, and others, act as if those who question the accuser are defending a rapist.

[2Jedismom]

Yes, she has a nice 3600 square foot house.

Here's a nice new roomy place you should check out...

[HairOfTheDog]

Overtaxed come home!

[cyncooper]

That was an intellectual and impartial comment.

Can't you see that?

LOL

[Wneighbor]

Where are you and why haven't you checked in at home like you shoulda?

[Howlin]

It's not MY theory; it's the facts as reported thus far; and unrevised as yet. That could change on a minute's notice.

[nyconse]

There have been no reports that I have seen that describe the type of sexual contact as oral sex or anything else.

[rolling_stone]

TWO RECENT ATTEMPTS AND COMMITTED TO A MENTAL HOSPITAL FOR A WHILE.

Where the heck did you hear someone was committed to a mental hospital or are you talking about yourself? You also seem to know Kobe's actions, were you there or just speculating?

http://www.bannerhealth.com/channels/patients+and+visitors/facilities/colorado/ncmc+greeley/default.asp

[Howlin]

Perhaps you haven't been here since the beginning of these threads when anybody who questioned anything or even considered giving Kobe Bryant the benefit of the doubt was roundly ridiculed.

Both sides most assuredly ARE to blame; I never said any different. That being said, I'm entitled to my opinions without being labeled "emotional."

And I've NEVER said I was moral or anything close to it; all I've said is it would be nice if we could stick to ALL the facts we know and not run off on tangents about how since Kobe is an adulterer (and an NBA player), he MUST also be a rapist, to the exclusion of anything that might make this girl look bad. Plenty of people have brought their own "issues" to these threads and it's muddying up the waters, if you will.

[Howlin]

Well, I took great offense at being told I don't have sense/logic to be able to support myself.........LOL.

Sorry to drag you into it.

[Constitution Day]

Not a problem, my FRiend!

I hope that I helped. :)

[nyconse]

The studies I have seen report that only 2-3% of rape allegations are false. Date rape is far more common than stanger rape. However, statistics often show that most rapes go unreported.

[HurkinMcGurkin]

She knew he was rich, married, famous and with child.

Kobe was with child? How many months along is he? This must be the immaculate conception part two.