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My Passion About 'The Passion' (Mel Gibson)
Lewrockwell.com ^ | August 16, 2003 | Steven Greenhut

Posted on 08/21/2003 2:00:13 PM PDT by Korth

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1 posted on 08/21/2003 2:00:14 PM PDT by Korth
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To: Korth
wow. A decent article from Lew Rockwell! Is the Rapture far behind? :>
2 posted on 08/21/2003 2:02:15 PM PDT by KantianBurke (The Federal govt should be protecting us from terrorists, not handing out goodies)
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To: Korth
Nice article. I think this work of Gibson's and the reaction to it are excellent guide-posts on our road to oblivion. When the truth, regarding an issue as important as this, must be squelched in the quest for political correctness, the society that this takes place in is on the verge of becoming unworthy of existing.

It vitally important for our society that Gibson be allowed to create his work, show it, and then we criticize or salute it for what it actually is, not what we feared it might be.
3 posted on 08/21/2003 2:11:14 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: KantianBurke
With all the publicity and controversy that Mel Gibson's movie is getting beforehand perhaps people who would not ordinarily go to see a religious-themed movie will go see this one and decide for themselves.

The real fear for some is probably that people who see the movie will be moved by the story and become interested in Christ's message. Sadly, I think there are some who feel threatened by that idea.

To paraphrase C.S. Lewis, either Christ was right in what He proclaimed and did or He was a crazy, and nothing He said or did fits with Him being a crazy. If you actually pay attention to the Christian story, it's very compelling, which is probably one reason why this movie is very compelling, because Mel stuck close to the story!
4 posted on 08/21/2003 2:31:21 PM PDT by Sabatier
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To: Korth
An excellent article by Steven Greehut. He speaks for many.
5 posted on 08/21/2003 2:32:28 PM PDT by Malesherbes
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To: KantianBurke
I'm calling Hell for the weekend ski forecast now...
6 posted on 08/21/2003 2:37:19 PM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: Korth
Although I am a practicing eastern Orthodox Christian, I come from a Jewish background.

How could a person of Jewish background possibly be Eastern Orthodox? Has this guy ever heard of St. John Chrysostom? He ought to read some of the stuff Chrysostom wrote. He would hate himself.

7 posted on 08/21/2003 3:29:15 PM PDT by Inyokern
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To: Inyokern
How could a person of Jewish background possibly be Eastern Orthodox? Has this guy ever heard of St. John Chrysostom? He ought to read some of the stuff Chrysostom wrote. He would hate himself.

Maybe one of his parents was Eastern Orthodox, and his belief in Christ led him to embrace that particular expression of the Christian faith.

By the way,Chrysostom was pretty critical of Christians. One of his most famous quotes is "The road to hell is paved with the skulls of priests". I've never read his anti-Jewish rhetoric in context; I've read one quote of his about the Jews, and it looked horrific.

8 posted on 08/21/2003 4:56:27 PM PDT by Clintons a commie
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To: Clintons a commie
Maybe one of his parents was Eastern Orthodox, and his belief in Christ led him to embrace that particular expression of the Christian faith.

Yes, I am sure that is probably it.

10 posted on 08/21/2003 6:35:17 PM PDT by Inyokern
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To: Korth
got this off the net from an article, I think the writer was jewish, never-the-less, it illustrates what's going on. Its not the movie, its not Mel Gibson, its not even the Gospels...its Jesus. After over 2000 years its still all about Jesus Christ. We are blessed when they say all manner of things against us for His name's sake.........

"...That is just the problem. The Fourth Gospel is part of a nasty exchange of polemics between two sects of Judaism ... This obscure argument would have mere curiosity value except for two huge magnifiers.
First, these two sects were the only viable survivors from among the two or three dozen Jewish sects that had flourished in Jerusalem in the late Second Temple era. Then, in 70 AD, Rome destroyed the Temple and nearly levelled Jerusalem. Of all the forms of Judaism, only the descendants of the Pharisees adapted sufficiently to survive: The main group became the founders of modern Judaism, and a second bunch, a slightly off-brand set, the followers of Yeshua of Nazareth, became the forebears of Christianity.
Even so, the rivalry of these two groups would have been merely a cat fight in a Middle Eastern sandbox had not the Roman Empire turned Christian in the fourth century, a win for the Yeshua crowd. Suddenly, arcane polemics of the first century AD were broadcast empire-wide and eventually worked their influence on governmental policies in dozens of Western countries for several centuries."

...ok lefties, got any new arguments? The ones you are putting up are kinda old...(Eph 6:12)
11 posted on 09/28/2003 9:09:48 AM PDT by Corneilus
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To: Sawool
Gibson takes 'Passion' play to Newmarket

Icon considers release timed to Ash Wednesday
 
By GABRIEL SNYDER
Jim Caviezel stars in Mel Gibson's 'The Passion of Jesus Christ,' which Newmarket will distribute domestically.
 
Mel Gibson has pacted with Newmarket to handle U.S. distribution for his controversial (and recently re-christened) "The Passion of Christ."
The rent-a-system deal means that Gibson's Icon Prods. will retain all rights to "Passion" while relying on Newmarket's distribution apparatus in exchange for a cut of the gross.
A source close to Gibson said that Icon is mulling a release timed to Ash Wednesday, which next year falls on Feb. 25 . Previously, Gibson had been eyeing a release tied to Easter, which falls on April 11.

Icon is distributing "Passion" itself in the U.K. and Australia, where it already has its own distrib operations.

Because Newmarket will hold no rights on "Passion," Gibson remains on the hook for the $25 million he has already personally spent making the film, which depicts the last hours in the life of Jesus Christ.

With dialogue in Latin and Aramaic -- though the pic will now be subtitled -- even Gibson has conceded that the film would be a tough commercial sell.

Months before its planned release, "Passion" has attracted the kind of publicity that few commercial filmmakers would welcome.

Some Jewish scholars and orgs have said "Passion" will provoke anti-Semitism because they think it revives the ancient slur that Jews are responsible for the death of Christ. Meanwhile, some conservative Christians and Catholics, including Vatican officials, endorsed "Passion" as a teaching tool after Gibson screened the film for them.


12 posted on 10/22/2003 11:30:52 AM PDT by carlo3b (http://www.CookingWithCarlo.com)
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To: Corneilus
Months before its planned release, "Passion" has attracted the kind of publicity that few commercial filmmakers would welcome.

 "bad publicity is good publicity"
~Marilyn Monroe, In March 1952,

13 posted on 10/22/2003 11:31:35 AM PDT by carlo3b (http://www.CookingWithCarlo.com)
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To: kosta50
I didn't know that Lew Rockwell was Eastern Orthodox.
14 posted on 02/22/2004 8:50:59 AM PST by MarMema
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To: Inyokern; Korth; MarMema; Clintons a commie
John Chrysostom is not only an Eastern Orthodox Saint, but Roman Catholic as well. In Orthodoxy, he is the cornerstone, along with Basil the Great, of the faith, and in the RC Church he is officially designated as the Doctor of the Church.

One would have to know Orthodoxy to realize that there is nothing in this faith that can be construed as based on hate. No one quotes Chrysostom's homilies against the Jews. St. Thomas Aquinas, Martin Luther and other prominent Christians have used language that today would be considered highly antisemitic. But there is a difference between opinion and theology. Quite a number of Roman popes were less than deserving of their throne, yet do one dozen or so corrupt individuals corrupt the entire church and undo all the good deeds and honorable people in it? Does one Menachim Begin, a terrorist, invalidate the State of Israel? Does one Wagner invalidate all of German music?

Chrysostom was equally harsh, primarily on his own clergy, monks, and imperial courtesans. His homilies against the Jews were written before his ordination as a priest and certainly way before he was ever elevated to the Bishop of Constantinople.

Chrysostom considered priests and bishops who gave in to sin as doubly guilty -- because they should know better -- and maintained that there are so many corrupt priests and bishops that they will line the path to hell.

One ofm the first things he did as the Imperial Bishop was to prohibit female servants in clergy's homes. He was especially harsh on vanity of elderly women, including Imperial family and even the heretic Empress indirectly. That didn't win him friends or favors and in fact lead to his sudden demise after a brief period of great influence in the Imperial City. One can say that he was harsh and didn't tolerate the "wobbly" and the corrupt no matter who they were. He is mostly remembered as the father of the modern Liturgy, a divine service in content and melody. He is remembered and revered for his Christianity.

15 posted on 02/23/2004 6:39:07 AM PST by kosta50
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To: MarMema
He is????
16 posted on 02/23/2004 6:43:19 AM PST by kosta50
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To: Korth
But despite what O’Reilly stupidly said

Redundancy.

17 posted on 02/23/2004 6:48:54 AM PST by Sloth (We cannot defeat foreign enemies of the Constitution if we yield to the domestic ones.)
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To: Sloth
LOL!

OReilly seems like a weird ass pervert to me. He is always covering some kind of weird sex story about children or porn or molestation or something. I can't stand his show.
18 posted on 02/25/2004 7:50:47 AM PST by Borderline44
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To: Korth
This movie was a Renaissance masters painting come to life in sight and sound and emotion with 2004 technology.
19 posted on 02/27/2004 6:22:07 PM PST by ezo4
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This movie was a Renaissance masters painting come to life in sight and sound and emotion with 2004 technology.

Completely wrong. The Renaissance masters did not focus on the physical torment of a man in his 30s. They were far too intelligent and savvy to fall into that trap. The spiritual element was paramount to those guys. Look at Michelangelo's Pieta and tell me what relation it has to Gibson's ultraviolent orgy of blood. The Passion just takes the last 5 minutes of Braveheart and stretches it to 2 hours. I found nothing spiritual or uplifting about this film. I found nothing challenging about this film. There are many Christian films that are far superior to The Passion.
20 posted on 03/03/2004 4:55:11 PM PST by Borderline44
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