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1 posted on 09/11/2003 4:25:18 PM PDT by Greg Luzinski
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Gibson and McEveety had been surprised to learn that Fisher's panel was an ad-hoc initiative, bearing no authority from the Church. After the Bishops Conference received the letter from Gibson's lawyer, it acted quickly to distance itself from the scholars and their report on Gibson's film. “Neither the Bishops' Committee for Ecumenical and Interreligious Affairs, nor any other committee of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops, established this group, or authorized, reviewed or approved the report written by its members,” the conference declared in June.

Tricksy, tricksy.

67 posted on 12/22/2003 5:06:53 AM PST by A. Pole (pay no attention to the man behind the curtain , the hand of free market must be invisible)
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"Rabbi Eugene Korn, the head of the A.D.L.'s interfaith affairs, was quoted in the article as warning Gibson that he should not ignore the scholars' group. “If he doesn't respond, the controversy will certainly heat up,” Korn said."

Probably more a revealing statement than any. Has Mafia-like implications between the words ( such as: " We'll be sure to make things hard for you if you don't do as we say. " ).

69 posted on 12/22/2003 5:57:17 AM PST by Tench_Coxe
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Sanders believes it is because of Jesus' actions at the Temple during his Passover visit to Jerusalem, when he drove the money changers from the premises and overturned their tables. Fredriksen, though she is an admirer of Sanders, believes that the Temple scene probably didn't happen. She places the initiative of the Crucifixion entirely upon Pilate, almost to the point of absenting Jews from the scene altogether. Fredriksen's theory is that Jesus was so popular among the Jewish people (as evidenced by his triumphal entry into Jerusalem on the day Christians call Palm Sunday) that Pilate wanted him dead in order to teach Jews a lesson: Do not rebel.

I present to you the "experts", who, after two centuries of enlightenment, and after informing us that the gospels weren't written by the men whose names they bear, will now tell us what was originally in them.

As soon as they can figure it out.

Note that Frederickson thinks the Temple scene "probably didn't happen". Based on what evidence, you ask?

Well, it doesn't comport with HER IDEA of what did happen. Where did she get that idea, you ask?

Other parts of the gospels, which she likes better.

73 posted on 12/22/2003 6:58:55 AM PST by Taliesan
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Great article, the best I've read. Explains a lot of between the lines stuff lately.

I have to say - Caiaphus be damned, or not, if Gibson's movie manages the point of -- people of power, even our spiritual leaders, are as corruptible as the least of us when it comes to preserving their power -- and manages to stay true to the Gospel, he has done well. Those calling for the crucificion of Christ were not necessarily the Jews; they were those who might stand to lose control, and power is nothing, without control.

Did I see a suggestion in this article though that Traditionalist Catholic is a schism? I believe that is not true.
82 posted on 02/18/2004 12:24:12 PM PST by My back yard (The world is changed; I can feel it in the water, in the earth, I can smell it in the air.)
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I think this movie looks great.And im going to see it today,and I also believe,along with many others,that this is the last message from God before the rapture.As Jesus said of the signs that will and have just happened;wars and rumours of wars,nation against nation and kingdom against kingdom,famines and Earthquakes in diverse places,all the beggining of birth pains.Matthew 24.But the rapture wont happen unti lthe gospel is heard aroudn the world one mroe time,(The Passion Of The Christ)take a look at this: you cant tell me this is a coincidense,look at the dates,there every day.These are just a short list of things happening.


DECEMBER 26th 2003
Iran,magnitude 6.5; More than 41,000 killed

FEBRUARY 20,2004
Earthquake 6.0 Santa Cruz Islands
Magnitude 4.8 CHIAPAS, MEXICO
Magnitude 4.8 SEA OF OKHOTSK


FEBRUARY 21,2004
Magnitude 6.6 EAST OF SOUTH SANDWICH ISLANDS


FEBRUARY 22,2004
Magnitude 6.0 SOUTHERN SUMATRA, INDONESIA


FEBRUARY 23,2004
Magnitude 5.6 PAGAN REG., N. MARIANA ISLANDS
Magnitude 6.3 SAMOA ISLANDS REGION
Moderate earthquake rocks eastern France 5.1


FEBRUARY 24,2004
Magnitude 6.5 NEAR NORTH COAST OF MOROCCO
Magnitude 6.5 - STRAIT OF GIBRALTAR
Morocco Earthquake death Toll 564

If any ones wants to argue with this,i have this to back me.
If therefore thou shalt not watch I will come on thee as a thief,
and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee Rev(3:3)


84 posted on 02/25/2004 2:55:09 AM PST by RaptureReady (END TIME,READY?)
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