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To: exodus
I am a rightwing libertarian, as opposed to a leftwing libertarian. I have a theory on self-government and a love for a version of liberty conceptualized by the Welsh-Irish-Scottish as opposed to the French libertarians and their ideological libertarianism.


It's a worthy discussion because I consider my anti-war left-libertarians friends to be better bedfellows than the 'big government conservatives.'




60 posted on 09/30/2003 7:42:44 AM PDT by JohnGalt (Attention Pseudocons: Wilsonianrepublic.com is still available)
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To: JohnGalt
I've always considered a belief in the concept of Rights to be a defining tenet of libertarian philosophy.

You're the first libertarian I've met who claimed the title of libertarian while saying there is no such thing as a Right. Usually folks who say Rights don't exist are socialists who support full government sovereignty over an individual's life.

62 posted on 09/30/2003 7:55:06 AM PDT by exodus
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To: JohnGalt
That's odd... I also consider myself a 'right-wing' libertarian, but my point of view on this is most influenced by Enlightenment/American Revolution-era natural-rights philosophy (as opposed to, say, Rousseau). I derive the pro-life position from the recognition of the inalienable rights of man, and the clear evidence that a child begun is as fully human (and thus a possessor of inalienable rights) as any other.

Why do you choose to call agnostically derived libertarianism 'right wing' and deistic (for lack of a better term) libertarianism 'left wing'? I always viewed it the other way - that systems that come from consideration of the individual's rights were right-wing and those that are based in a society's rights were left-wing.

Either way, it's interesting how we ended up with the same conclusion, reasoning from what appears to me to be two strongly contrasting points of origin.
64 posted on 09/30/2003 7:58:30 AM PDT by thoughtomator (Right Wing Crazy #5338526)
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To: JohnGalt
"I have a theory on self-government and a love for a version of liberty conceptualized by the Welsh-Irish-Scottish as opposed to the French libertarians and their ideological libertarianism."

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I'm fasinated, JohnGalt.

How does the Welsh-Irish-Scottish version of libertarianism differ from our libertarian Founders' version, which was based upon God-given Rights?

68 posted on 09/30/2003 8:14:07 AM PDT by exodus
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