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Fringe party not Christie's cup of tea [He's no conservative, folks]
The Woodland Park Record ^ | October 5, 2010 | Charles Stile

Posted on 10/05/2010 3:08:36 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No Christie is not a onservative, but it’s still refreshing to see a Republican with some guts (I started to say testicles but that would exclude Jan Brewer who is also refreshing).

When will the rest of them learn that truth trumps lies and spin every time?


41 posted on 10/05/2010 6:07:06 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Wanna learn humility? Become a Pittsburgh Pirates fan!)
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To: Longbow1969
You'd be right if the entire system as we know it is about to collapse, but I really don't see that in the cards. Then again, who knows...

Bingo !! Very astute observation.....because that is my premise exactly. Our present welfare state is out of money and will collapse. And the failed attempts to save it are what is driving the coming revolution.

Great historical events just don't happen because people see a better way or make some intellectual determination. They happen because the existing paradigm changes. And people demand a massive shift in the way society is structured.

The mass of people in 1760 America were quite happy being British subjects. But in 15 yrs the equilibrium was changed as the British went broke from it's wars and tried to raise revenue in the colonies. And the colonists said no.

In 1850 nobody wanted Civil War but in 10 yrs the equilibrium changed when the slave states wanted to expand slavery in the new states. And the North said no.

Most Americans 5 yrs ago never questioned the existence of the safety net welfare state put into place by FDR and subsequent presidents. But in order to try to save it the equilibrium as been changed with huge spending and take overs of private businesses. And more and more Americans are saying no. The sides are being drawn up as pro and anti doing business as usual or refusing to save a dying system.

42 posted on 10/05/2010 6:12:14 PM PDT by mick (Central Banker Capitalism is NOT Free Enterprise)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

My father is a retired school teacher in New Jersey ...and he thinks Christie is plenty conservative Republican....and he isn’t happy......

I’m not sure the people calling others RINO have much sense......


43 posted on 10/05/2010 6:22:29 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: Beowulf9

I love the fact that we got someone like that as governor of a dark blue Northeastern state. It’s as good as it’s gonna get. But president? Nope!


44 posted on 10/05/2010 6:26:58 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Palin/Bolton 2012)
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To: mick
Bingo !! Very astute observation.....because that is my premise exactly.

Well, if the system is collapsing as you suggest, then you will certainly be right - and those who recognized it first will have the advantage. I just have my doubts we are really at that point yet.

And more and more Americans are saying no.

See, this is where I disagree. I do not see any fundamental shift yet in American's attitudes towards the social welfare state. I think we can look at places like CA, IL, NY and see that people are actually ferociously trying to hold on to it. I think you may fail to take into account the demographic shifts and just how powerful the Latino block is for the left. I agree white voters will increasingly shift towards the right, but quite frankly, there just aren't enough of them to overcome the minority and victim groups.

Still, you make very good points. You could be right too.

Cheers!

45 posted on 10/05/2010 6:32:32 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

His lawyer is a close family friend....


46 posted on 10/05/2010 6:34:50 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: Longbow1969
I don't disagree that we are not there yet or that there is a sizable number of people who want the present system to endure. But that is exactly my point. We will have a revolution or civil war or mass street battles, or whatever, precisely because there are two sides - just like in 1775 and 1860 - and everyone will have to chose sides.

Anyway, we will know soon enough !!

47 posted on 10/05/2010 6:49:07 PM PDT by mick (Central Banker Capitalism is NOT Free Enterprise)
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To: rightwingextremist1776
CHRISTIE IS NOT A CONSERVATIVE!

I've seen enough of him, especially his courageous stand on unions and pensions in a state like NJ, to conclude that anybody that claim's he's no conservative has a few screws loose; to put it mildly.

48 posted on 10/05/2010 8:17:09 PM PDT by Minn
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The defense of fundamental constitutional principles is not a
“side issue.”

I had a feeling this guy was going to be a disappointment.


49 posted on 10/05/2010 8:21:33 PM PDT by B Knotts (Just another Tenther)
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To: Minn; Longbow1969; BillyBoy

I’m with you.

But to certain deranged candidates (Lonegan in NJ, Oberweis in IL) and the cult of personality they try to build up around themselves, facts do not matter.


50 posted on 10/06/2010 1:08:30 AM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: Minn
Dude...I live in NJ.....You know NOTHING. I've followed Christie since he was a wet behind the ears DA....you didn't even know he EXISTED until recently....so don't show your ignorance, it makes you LOOK stupid.
51 posted on 10/06/2010 5:19:30 AM PDT by rightwingextremist1776
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To: rightwingextremist1776
Ha ha......well said,Pal.....CC is a YouTube sensation.....but these folks are so starved for tough talk they will buy his three-card-monte while his real purpose is to SAVE the big government welfare state NOT END IT !!

Like we like to say in jersey...don't bull sh*t a bull sh*tter......lol !!

52 posted on 10/06/2010 8:58:55 AM PDT by mick (Central Banker Capitalism is NOT Free Enterprise)
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To: mick
You sir are exactly correct...and if people would get past their erections when viewing CC youtubes and WATCH what the guy DOES then they will see......

This guy is doing what he is doing BECAUSE he HAS to....

Oh, he'll make it sound like a tough talking CONSERVATIVE, but aside from his grumbling on tape WHAT HAS HE DONE?

Answer.....NOT AN F'IN THING (except support fellow RINOS that is).....

53 posted on 10/06/2010 9:37:10 AM PDT by rightwingextremist1776
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To: onyx
the wins by Christie, and by Scott Brown were tsunamis....

so they're not perfect candidates?....no one is...no one will ever be..not Mother Theresa and not the great Ronald Reagan...

I appreciate strong candidates and I'll accept their differences and cheer the ones I support....

live together or die alone....

I'll tell you one thing....this all perfect candidate that some of you want...one who agrees with everything you believe in....

that candidate is a MYTH!

54 posted on 10/06/2010 11:41:08 PM PDT by cherry
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