Posted on 08/18/2011 7:24:30 AM PDT by jocon307
Thanks Texokie, but it is really Mr. Ellis’s analysis not mine.
Here is a link to post at Red State discussing in some detail many of the arguments (and slurs) against Perry.
Now, this is a very Pro-Perry analysis, which is to be expected since Perry announced at the Red State “Gathering”.
As an aside: I really don’t understand why that aspect didn’t get more coverage. A major candidate (because let’s face it like him or not he was always going to be a major candidate, he’s the multiple term governor of the currently most successful and always one of the largest states in America) at a blogger’s convention and pretty much nobody took note of that fact.
Anyway, it is very pro-Perry and I think it overlooks what might be the most damning charges against him which are his tendency to crony-capitalism and accusations of his living high on the hog on the taxpayer’s dime.
But it is worth reading, nevertheless, because it explains what that Bilderberger thing is and to me it refuted all those conspiratorial accusations you hear about it.
Although, I suppose if I believed in that conspiracy theory I would think it just proved it right!
Of all the arguments against Perry, the Al Gore thing to me is moot.
So, he was a Democrat, so were many republicans, including Regan. So, when he was a Democrat he was State Chair for Al Gore’s presidential campaign. To me this just demonstrates that Perry has always been a successful politician. You can’t turn back time and it is very likely that whoever wins the nom. will be a successful politician.
Evidently the last non-pol to be President was Eisenhower and I’m not sure you could really say a military career like the one Ike had wasn’t a “poltical” experience.
Other than Karl Rove, who recruited him from the democrats, and everyone in that elite globalist circle of the Republican old guard.
But why count those people when you want to try to make Al Gore’s former Texas campaign manager out to be a conservative.
There might be somebody in outer Mongolia that hasn’t already read this 1022 times so you’d better keep repeating it over and over!
After all everybody knows that whatever a person does 30 years ago or 20 years ago is a hell of a lot
more important than any other record they may have had since then.
Of course, that doesn’t count for Obama, does it? Sheeesh
Perry does NOT support Sanctuary Cities. With the Conservative base in Tx, if Perry were anything but a Conservative he would not have bee elected THREE times as GOV.
He has explained his belief in the HPV vacinations was to prevent Cancer. Frankly I think Merck pulled the this will prevent cervical cancer and he bought it.
IMO Merck was trying to get the State to become liable if yet another of their Drugs proved to be dangerous. I know I wouldn’t subject my daughter to this.
The Bush bunch pushed hard for the Trans highway. Remember Nafta was Daddy Bushes brainstorm. Thankfully Perry finally came down on the side of the people. Maybe THAT is why GHW and Babs don’t like Perry. The days of the backroom deals are over (hopefully) The old Washigton Bulls need to be put out to pasture.
I’m looking for a Secreteriat. You know someone that will leave the corrupt policies now in D.C behind in the dust.
I know that is probably unrealistic but I can hope.
You make some good points. I will certainly consider them.
Thank you so much for your reply. I can see that about Merck. I can see your point about the Bush family.
I do hope that day of back room deals is over...or at least diminished...and I pray too for a Secretariat. (Good analogy!)
Interesting points you bring up. I would like to respond to a couple of them.
First off, I’m not a tri-lateralists and I believe just about every politician has probably attended a Bilderburgher conference. I don’t believe in this grand conspiracy to make the world into a one world order.
Two, it is true he was Al Gores Texas campaign manager. But that was in 1987 which is 23 years ago. Al Gore was very different back then and people can change their opinions on things over a 23 year period. To give you an example, Ronald Reagan was a Democrat and a huge FDR supporter. By 1964, only 20 years after FDR’s death he was making speeches in support of Barry Goldwater.
Three, the HPV vaccines was rejected by the Texas legislature and no Texas girls were ever forced to get this vaccination. He has since said it was wrong and apologized for it. It’s time to move on from that one IMO.
In short, no politician is perfect. As I’ve said before, today if a California governor announced his candidacy who was a previous Democrat, raised taxes and passed gun control legislation while he was governor. People on this website would be excoriating him. That governor was Ronald Reagan. No candidate is ever perfect.
“that he has a cowboy problem”
Ooooohhhh, the “C” word! Why do bed-wetting Libs hate cowboys?
He could also raise some money from LaRaza.
The citizens of the world who occupy space here don’t much care for the sound of the Americans.
In fairness to Merck, Gardasil was not only been approved for females in 2006 but was approved for males in 2009 against multiple cancers tied to HPV strains the vaccine targets. There's also a competing HPV vaccine for females from GlaxoSmithKline now.
The most important thing to me on the controversy is that Perry specifically protected parental rights with the opt-out clause in his executive order.
Here in CA the legislature is voting to allow 12 yos to consent on their own with no requirement parents be informed much less allowed to opt-out. The law, AB499, already passed the Assembly.
“Rick Perry was chairman for Al Gore’s presidential campaign. Got it? Rick Perry was chairman for Al Gore’s presidential campaign. Rick Perry was chairman for Al Gore’s presidential campaign!”
In truth Perry was the Texas State Chairman of the Al Gore Democratic Primary Campaign in Texas which Gore lost to Dukakis.
Case in point, I was in Boston yesterday for a business lunch with my coworkers. We started talking about the economy and the mess we are in and one of them was talking about how Perry referred to Bernanke as committing treason. Anyhow, I clarified the quote for them and instead of scoffing at Perry and saying it was over the top or disrespectful, they were actually saying “good for him” or “he's right”.
Again, let me remind you I was in very blue Boston and I try and avoid discussing politics with these coworkers in most cases as I am usually the freak because I'm not a liberal. Will they vote for Perry?? Only time will tell, but I can tell you they don't like Obama right now. No more hope and change I'm guessing on their part.
I’m sorry if I insulted you with my crack about Merck. But I was on Vioxx for 18 months and am now dealing with the health problems it gave me.
Yes I know Perry’s actions on it, but the hysteria about “forcing” girls to take it ended the program. That is one reason I don’t like non factual attacks.
Thank you for the clarification. However the “Rick Perry was chairman for Al Gore’s presidential campaign. Got it?” comment was not mine, but someone on the interview page made it.
This particular issue is not as big a concern to me as some of the others.
Again, I have NOT made up my mind about Perry, just seeking to sift available data and be cautious.
You CANNOT..in 2012...run ANY political campaign that is ambiguous about your immigration “position” in the current job market.
Unemployed Americans are looking for assurances of their governments’ concern about THEIR plight...not that of businesses forced into looking for disposable labor because of onerous tax and regulatory policy.
Illegal Labor is the Feds out for preserving the status quo regarding Taxes and Regulation...and is the ultimate litmus test as to the candidates in question commitment to meaningful regulatory and tax reform. If they are wishy-washy on the subject...they have no real intent to disturb the DC status quo...no matter how big their cowboy hat and six-gun.
Again, I have NOT made up my mind about Perry, just seeking to sift available data and be cautious.
Perry’s a politican with lots of data/records to sift though. Take care. A lot of the contenders will drop shortly after the first two or three contest but I believe it will be a nasty, hard fought campaign between a couple whomever they maybe at the end.
Yes, there IS a lot of data out there! Looking at quite a bit of it - both pro and con!
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