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About That Fox News Poll (CONDUCTED BY A PERRY POLLSTER!!)
Mighty Serf ^ | September 7, 2011 | Stacy Drake

Posted on 09/07/2011 2:57:12 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

“And yes, I watch WWE from time to time (Monday Night Raw).”

If FNC dressed its newsreaders like female professional wrestlers it might lure me back (at least on the half hour).


21 posted on 09/07/2011 3:18:33 PM PDT by bwc2221
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Rick would never do such a dirty thing, why one of their posters swore Perry never voted for a democrat thanks to Ronald Reagan.....

He really believed that....PerryKrishna to the end.........

22 posted on 09/07/2011 3:19:21 PM PDT by Lakeshark
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I figured out that polls were as much an art (even a dark art) as a science after I took a stat class on them in college. Which, since it was the same time Sarah Heath (not yet Palin) was in college, was long before I (or just about anybody else) even knew who she was.


23 posted on 09/07/2011 3:20:19 PM PDT by RichInOC (Palin 2012: The Perfect Storm.)
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To: dead
This reminds me of those articles that attempt to invalidate any study that questions anthropomorphic global warming, because one of the authors was once a member of a think tank that accepted money from Exxon in 1986.

Cool.

For me, trusting the MSM paid-for polls, months before an election, reminds me of the same thought process that trusts all of those Global Warming studies.

24 posted on 09/07/2011 3:21:45 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign
For me, trusting the MSM paid-for polls, months before an election, reminds me of the same thought process that trusts all of those Global Warming studies.

I am skeptical of all political polls, and don't find them important at all this far out from an election.

However, if I want to point out the flaws in a specific poll, I examine their methodology for bias or fraud.

It's much more difficult than random slander, but considered by thinking people a much more effective way of debunking the results.

25 posted on 09/07/2011 3:26:48 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Sudetenland

Sometimes its okay to admit there is no grand conspiracy...

Of course this will probably be zotted and I’ll get called a liberal pissant commie regardless of my other posts and 3 tours in the sunshine...


26 posted on 09/07/2011 3:27:52 PM PDT by JoshuaLawrenceChamberlain
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yes, I understand that it’s about Palin. Perry and Palin share some supporters. So before Perry was in the race, it’s likely that some supporters were waiting for Palin and thought she should run. After Perry entered the race, those supporters decided to go for Perry and think Palin should now stay out of the race.

BTW, the snark in my previous comment wasn’t directed at you. It was directed at the author.


27 posted on 09/07/2011 3:29:18 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: dead
For me, trusting the MSM paid-for polls, months before an election, reminds me of the same thought process that trusts all of those Global Warming studies.

I am skeptical of all political polls, and don't find them important at all this far out from an election.

Then we agree on that point.

28 posted on 09/07/2011 3:31:37 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

First, I want to state that I am a HUGE Sarah Palin supporter. But I can be a Sarah Palin supporter without trashing my own Governor Perry with the lies the democrats are throwing out cranking out faster than a corn sheller or a pig sty shoveler. Sarah Palin has an attribute that I highly admire, that Rick Perry doesn’t have. She is viscious when it comes to getting the job done. Perry is a persuader and a plodder which is typical of sons of the soil.

But I am going to jump in here with something that has really been disturbing me, and which puts me in combat on my facebook page every day.

I have some over 500 friends on my facebook page, many of those friends have 2,000 or more friends, and I can see hundreds of responses to postings every day.

What surprises me, is the many numbers of republican WOMEN who will comment that Sarah Palin can’t win it, or she’s not educated enough, or she’s not experienced enough, or now, she has too much baggage. Women who have obviously not even taken a look at her record, her resume, or even bothered to delve further than the rhetoric they’re hearing on tv by the MSM.

I know at my family and friends houses that women tend to answer the phone more than the men do. I’d certainly be curious to find out how many of the respondents were women and how many were men.

Something else I’m always curious about when I see a poll, of a freaking number like ‘911’ supposedly registered voters that pundits are claiming is all omnipotent, is what area codes they were dialing. I think it should be a requirement that they reveal WHERE they were dialing. What if they were dialing area codes 312, 708, or 773 or 415 or 650? Hell in those area codes the number of evangelicals might be ‘3’.

This is why I don’t pay much attention to polls.

And I’m not going to pay one spit of attention to this article because it has not one fact in it...it is merely speculation and gossip and another opportunity for the democrats to get republicans themselves to take another whack at Rick Perry.


29 posted on 09/07/2011 3:40:10 PM PDT by RowdyFFC
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I can understand why some would want her to lose. But why would such a large percentge of conservatives not want her to run at all? That just doesn’t smell right. I personally would like to see her run just so we can settle once and for all just how hated this woman is. I think some folks have got a surprise coming there.


30 posted on 09/07/2011 3:51:56 PM PDT by Reddon
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who cares? why bother with this crap? we need to keep our eyes on the prize.. Palin, Perry, Romney hell even my friggin cat would be a better leader than this bozo so all this bitching and back-biting gets us nowhere.

The prize would be Obama getting fired. Everything else is irrelevant, IMO. Replace him and the stock market climbs 1000 points and all the confidence scales (economy, leadership) will start to return to normal.


31 posted on 09/07/2011 3:53:12 PM PDT by newnhdad
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yes, Fox hired this polster well before anyone knew he’d enter the race just so they could trash the woman receiving a paycheck at Fox. Oh and to throw people off the scent of this conspiracy they sent Karl on FOX to hit Perry as “unelectable”. Why...I bet if you look hard enough you can track down a Perry connection to all the polsters. You should get to work to find the connection! Dan rather might be available to help you.

And you guys wonder why so many people who once defended Palin want nothing to do with her “fans”.


32 posted on 09/07/2011 3:58:32 PM PDT by Soul Seeker (I will work every day to make Washington, D.C., as inconsequential in your lives as I can - Perry)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Syncro; Al B.; Brices Crossroads; Virginia Ridgerunner; Clyde5445; RedMDer; ...
Likely my last ping to you all before next Tuesday. I'm going to Tampa for the TEA PARTY EXPRESS /ccn debate and I'm leaving early tomorrow to visit my little grandson in Orlando first. You all be good, ya hear?

GO SARAH!!!

P.S. Shame on Faux News. Fair and Balanced? ROTFL.

GAME ON!


Sarah Palin's Busy Ping List!


33 posted on 09/07/2011 3:59:26 PM PDT by onyx (You're here on FR, so support it! If you support SARAH PALIN & want on her ping list, let me know!)
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To: Al B.

Maybe you can link the article you posted to this thread. Perhaps the writer of this article did. Admittedly, I haven’t read the article...yet....lol. I need to finish packing. I have to leave for the airport at 4:15AM.


34 posted on 09/07/2011 4:03:17 PM PDT by onyx (You're here on FR, so support it! If you support SARAH PALIN & want on her ping list, let me know!)
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To: RowdyFFC

“What surprises me, is the many numbers of republican WOMEN who will comment that Sarah Palin can’t win it, or she’s not educated enough, or she’s not experienced enough, or now, she has too much baggage. Women who have obviously not even taken a look at her record, her resume, or even bothered to delve further than the rhetoric they’re hearing on tv by the MSM.”

I posted this on a Coulter-Palin thread yesterday:

A woman who can deliver a killer speech like she did on Saturday and then get up on Sunday and run a 1:45 half marathon incognito just to work up an appetite for lunch and then deliver an even better speech the next day and then write a facebook release like what she did this morning knocking our idiot President on his butt of course just pisses everybody off. She’s got 5 kids for god’s sake. She even pisses me off, I can’t stand women who can do that. I don’t blame Laura Ingraham and Ann Coulter for hating her guts.


35 posted on 09/07/2011 4:04:19 PM PDT by Reddon
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To: BuckeyeTexan

” There is also the fact that the Fox poll numbers are very different from a poll that CNN conducted just this last July. Ian noted at the time:

Hmmm. What happened between the July CNN poll and this Fox News poll? What could it be? Oh, I know! Perry declared his candidacy.

Since Perry wasn’t a candidate in July, it’s not unreasonable or suspicious that the poll numbers would change significantly after his entry into the race.”
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And Hmmm. So then we should expect the poll numbers to change significantly again when Palin declares her candidacy and gets in. That’s how it worked before, right?


36 posted on 09/07/2011 4:05:41 PM PDT by BobKat
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To: onyx
Here ya go:

Perry's Egghead, Fox's pollster

Have a great trip, onyx!

37 posted on 09/07/2011 4:07:33 PM PDT by Al B. ("Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid." -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: Soul Seeker
And you guys wonder why so many people who once defended Palin want nothing to do with her “fans”.

Plenty of nutty Perry fans. Funny how they don't elicit the same response from you.

38 posted on 09/07/2011 4:08:22 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: onyx

Have fun Onyx!


39 posted on 09/07/2011 4:08:22 PM PDT by leapfrog0202 ("the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discovery" Sarah Palin)
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To: Sudetenland

what does it hurt if SP enters the race say Sept 30. If she is loser as this poll says, then what does it hurt Rick Perry?

this whole argument is like the NFL crowning its NFC champion before the regular season even starts based on last years performances and the hype coming out of training camp, and the exhibition season

I really hope Sarah takes her case to the voters. If she can’t persuade them, then we all move on.


40 posted on 09/07/2011 4:08:43 PM PDT by Piers-the-Ploughman (Just say no to circular firing squads.)
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