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To: samantha

I heard he went pro-choice. What did you hear?


14 posted on 10/19/2011 9:54:17 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It was on an earlier thread, I will try to look it up, but he is NOT pro choice. It is never the baby's fault, but I would never demand a woman that is raped by filthy scum of the earth or by a Family member (still filth) should carry that baby. It is not her fault either.
16 posted on 10/19/2011 10:06:19 PM PDT by samantha (Sarah is our TEAple. leader for America the Beautiful...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
They pulled the thread, not sure why probably because it's insinuations were baloney.

I am totally behind Herman Cain now and will donate money like I would have to SP. HC is closest to SP on everything that counts,especially that he is not an insider crony capitalist bought and paid for.

19 posted on 10/19/2011 10:20:20 PM PDT by samantha (Sarah is our TEAple. leader for America the Beautiful...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There is no way Herman Cain went pro-choice. He’s stated too many times and way too recently that life begins at conception and that the first right our creator bestowed on us, as stated in the Declaration of Independence, is the right to life.

In fact, just within the last week when the media asked about it, he stated he does not believe in abortion for any reason not for rape nor for incest. If there is a choice between the life of the baby and the life of the mother, he said the family would have to make that decision not govt.

He’s made both of those statements within the last few weeks so whoever told you he’s gone pro-choice is working dirty tricks for the enemy or deceived themselves. Herman Cain is a rock solid conservative. Would you go pro-choice? I wouldn’t. Neither did he.


21 posted on 10/19/2011 10:37:36 PM PDT by Waryone (RINOs, Elites, and Socialists - on the endangered list, soon to become extinct.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Cain is just as anti-abortion as he ever was.

Here is the text of the interview in qeustion. As you can see, the subject of the question that has got people hot is “should the goverment force a rape viticm to RAISE the child.” Typical gotcha lefty question, as it assumes only two choices (abortion or raising child) without considering adoption.


MORGAN: Abortion. What’s your view of abortion?

CAIN: I believe that life begins at conception. And abortion under no circumstances. And here’s why —

MORGAN: No circumstances?

CAIN: No circumstances.

MORGAN: Because many of your fellow candidates — some of them qualify that.

CAIN: They qualify but —

MORGAN: Rape and incest.

CAIN: Rape and incest.

Cain is specifically rejecting exceptions to anti-abortion laws that other candidates have put forth allowing abortion in cases of rape and incest.

So Morgan asks whether Cain would want his daughters to RAISE a child born out of rape and incest as their own. Cain replies that’s a decision for the family to make. That’s where the people who are trying to bring Cain down leap into action, making it seem like the question was whether Cain would want them to carry the baby to term:

MORGAN: Are you honestly saying — again, it’s a tricky question, I know.

CAIN: Ask the tricky question.

MORGAN: But you’ve had children, grandchildren. If one of your female children, grand children was raped, you would honestly want her to bring up that baby as her own?

CAIN: You’re mixing two things here, Piers?

MORGAN: Why?

CAIN: You’re mixing —

MORGAN: That’s what it comes down to.

CAIN: No, it comes down to it’s not the government’s role or anybody else’s role to make that decision. Secondly, if you look at the statistical incidents, you’re not talking about that big a number. So what I’m saying is it ultimately gets down to a choice that that family or that mother has to make.

See, out of context it seems like Cain is saying that government shouldn’t make the decision to keep or abort the baby. But that’s NOT what Morgan asked. It seems that may be what Morgan MEANT to ask, but Cain corrects him that he’s mixing up issues.


The “decision” in the second question is about who should raise the child.

It’s also worth finding and watching the actual video. Morgan cuts off Cain so many times (in this section and the section on gays) that Cain never really gets to complete his points. Almost all of Cain’s responses in the transcript are really fragments of the sentence he was starting to say before Morgan cut him off.

Cain is just as pro-life as he ever was.


30 posted on 10/20/2011 12:12:08 PM PDT by Brookhaven (Herman Cain: "I do not agree with abortion under any circumstances")
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