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To: nathanbedford
Superb comments from a reasoning and reasonable mind (and heart). I share your thoughts, and regret their likely limited impact. "To those who wish to believe (something), no proof is necessary, and to those who wish to disbelieve (something), no proof is sufficient".

Am reproducing a comment I made several days ago, as they relate to your posts:

"Yes. Simply regurgitating the same, over-used stump talking points doesn’t do any good, or change many minds. What we need to do is reclaim some of the empty space between many people’s ears. Reintroduce some of the ideas, principles, history, civility, morality, loss for many of self-reliance that has been so lacking in much of our educational institutions, and, too often, from one generation teaching the next."

"Simply hurling out our position and then arguing about it does not serve the larger and necessary requirements of redirecting this country back toward our formative values."

"We need people who understand our past greatness to teach those principles to ensuing generations. Otherwise, all we have is a bickering, downward-spiraling, uncivil society bent on each component getting what it can at the expense of someone else."
26 posted on 11/18/2011 6:55:42 AM PST by JimInMO
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To: JimInMO; nathanbedford
"Yes. Simply regurgitating the same, over-used stump talking points doesn’t do any good, or change many mind

I'm sorry but that exactly why many of us are resisting the Newt bandwagon. We here an awful lot of Cult of Personality American idol style talking points about Newt, but almost no actual argument why to support Newt. We keep hearing "Newt did this, Newt did that". Unfortunately, those of us who part of the 1994 reovolution know better. Newt has done a very good job of claiming credit for what other men like Tom Delay and John Kasich accomplished. Newt is very very good at putting himself at the head of a parade. He is very very bad at actually leading the parade. Too many of us remember Dole 1996 and McCain 2008. We keep hearing the hard sell personality PR about what a great talker and thinker Newt is. We are being told "just ignore all the facts about Newt's record, just worship at the shrine of his genius". Sorry heard this all before. Not falling for it again.

33 posted on 11/18/2011 11:07:04 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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