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1 posted on 01/23/2012 7:49:31 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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Mixed on agree / disagree. I do find that the GOP is in deep trouble. That holds true, meaning the down ballot GOP candidates are in trouble too, regardless of whether it is Mitt or Newt at the top of the ticket.

I'd wager a Mitt top of the ticket would be at least as harmful, down ballot - and my gut tells me it would be more harmful to the party as it is currently constituted.

For me, that's a win-win outcome. The GOP as currently constituted is damaging to the country.

2 posted on 01/23/2012 7:55:39 AM PST by Cboldt
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On the one hand, Gingrich's national favorable-unfavorable ratings of 26.5 and 58.6 percent, respectively make him not just unelectable against Obama but also mean that he would likely be a ten-ton millstone around the necks of down-ballot Republican candidates across the country. And on the other, Romney will have shown in two successive contests—one in a bellwether Republican state, the other in a key swing state—an inability to beat his deeply unpopular rival.

Hogwash. If Newt keeps going after the media, and right to the American people, these #'s will reverse toot sweet.

3 posted on 01/23/2012 7:56:21 AM PST by petercooper (2012 - Purge more RINO's.)
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On the one hand, Gingrich's national favorable-unfavorable ratings of 26.5 and 58.6 percent

My first though was, How old are these numbers and from whom did they come?
I've cast around a little but don't come across a source.

These sorts of numbers are "perishable" and could turn on a dime in his favor.

4 posted on 01/23/2012 7:57:28 AM PST by grobdriver (Proud Member, Party Of No! No Socialism - No Fascism - Nobama - No Way!)
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All one needs to do is look back at the 2010 midterms and remember that the silent majority is still pissed.


5 posted on 01/23/2012 8:05:14 AM PST by ILS21R (Never give up.)
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When it comes to wallowing around in the mud, Gingrich is King Hog, while Romney isn’t even a pig farmer in waders

LOL! Almost Steynesque!

8 posted on 01/23/2012 8:11:04 AM PST by 6ppc (It's torch and pitchfork time)
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“On the one hand, Gingrich’s national favorable-unfavorable ratings of 26.5 and 58.6 percent, respectively make him not just unelectable against Obama...”

Nonsense. A full 48% (or more) of registered voters will never vote for Obama. A wet dish towel can beat Obama. It’s more a matter of who will make the better POTUS: Obama-lite Mitt, or Newt.


9 posted on 01/23/2012 8:13:17 AM PST by kidd
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On the one hand, Gingrich's national favorable-unfavorable ratings of 26.5 and 58.6 percent, respectively make him not just unelectable against Obama but also mean that he would likely be a ten-ton millstone around the necks of down-ballot Republican candidates across the country.

Bull hockey.

Obama is the millstone, and he's not around the GOP's neck.

13 posted on 01/23/2012 8:26:02 AM PST by Joe the Pimpernel (Too many lawmakers, too many laws, too many lawyers.)
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Two simple reasons for Newt’s SC victory:

#1 The people loathe Obama and how he has wrecked our country
#2 The people loathe the main stream media for protecting Obama and the Leftists.

And Newt articulates this loathing better than anyone

Nothing more; nothing less than this


15 posted on 01/23/2012 8:27:28 AM PST by veritas2002
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make him not just unelectable against Obama but also mean that he would likely be a ten-ton millstone around the necks of down-ballot Republican candidates across the country

Gingrich has a proven track record on how to nationalize congressional elections like no other. I don't see why he could not use his skills to both help him get elected and create coat tails.

20 posted on 01/23/2012 8:40:48 AM PST by Raycpa
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“...Gingrich’s national favorable-unfavorable ratings of 26.5 and 58.6 percent...”

Same tactic and argument that was used against Reagan, and don’t forget how women voters were scared by Reagan, even when they turned out in large numbers to vote for him.

It’s time to show the RNC that there is a new sheriff in town, and the corrupt thinking that brought us McCain and now Romney isn’t going to win the day.


22 posted on 01/23/2012 8:44:38 AM PST by pallis
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6. We don’t end up w Mitt Milquetoast as the nominee and lose to commie Obamie.


25 posted on 01/23/2012 9:06:15 AM PST by G Larry (We need Bare Knuckles Newt to fight this battle.)
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Newt's unfavorable ratings are high with the GOP, too, and they voted for him. Against a popular Democrat, he might have problems. Against 0bama? Not so much.

Newt will have to go out and earn those votes, but -- KEY POINT -- he has shown that HE CAN DO THAT. Every debate, he picks up supporters, or at least, assauges some detractors. (He'll create more "he's not my guy, but I'll support him if he wins" voters or even "hold their nose and vote" voters.)

28 posted on 01/23/2012 9:28:22 AM PST by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a liberal when I married her.)
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And on the other, Romney will have shown in two successive contests—one in a bellwether Republican state, the other in a key swing state—an inability to beat his deeply unpopular rival. If this scenario unfolds, the sound of GOP grandees whispering calls for a white knight, be it Indiana governor Mitch Daniels (who, conveniently, is delivering the Republican response to Obama’s State of the Union address on Tuesday night) or Wisconsin congressman Paul Ryan or even Jeb Bush, will be deafening.

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Yeah:

1) We did the polite and nice McCain who is loved by the media who did not take the Left to task on their treason, and the Conservative base did not come out.

2) The left got their hardest left candidate to run, and they got record turnout. Playing to the middle to win is a myth. It only disgusts your base, and without your base you lose.

3) I wish Sarah or West or someone else articulate and FAR right are down ticket.

4) A Mormon president is a serious issue. It is OFFICIAL NOTICE that the Christianity going on in the USA is worthless to the max, since it is not producing leaders, along with all the sin among Christians. Most Christians are not ready to admit this, so they will pick a “not Romney”.

5) Who is Mitch Daniels? Not another blue-blood Bush!!!


32 posted on 01/23/2012 11:09:23 AM PST by ROTB (Christian sin breeds enemies for the USA. If you're a Christian, stop sinning, and spread the Word..)
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