Skip to comments.David Frum - Conservatives: Do You Really Want to Do This to Your Party? (Santorum)
Posted on 03/14/2012 8:04:48 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
After tonight, Newt Gingrich has to be considered finished. You don't get to be the nominee if you don't win primaries, and if Gingrich can't win Alabama and Mississippi, it's hard to imagine any other state in the country where he can win.
While Gingrich may remain some kind of factor, in almost every remaining state, this race devolves to a Romney-Santorum battle.
That's great news for Santorum, who has been hoping and yearning for a two-man race.
It's acceptable news for Romney, who knows that party donors and insiders dread a Santorum candidacy as likely to lead to a 300+ electoral vote Obama blow-out.
And it raises this question for Republican party conservatives: Is Rick Santorum really the place where they want to place their hopes?
The Santorum candidacy pushes Republicans toward an election in which the issues are religious, cultural, and sexual, not economic. It's a candidacy that pushes the party away from metropolitan areas, away from areas of growing population, and rebases the party everywhere that is not dynamic, not growing. The concerns of hard-pressed America are deeply worthy of attention and respect. They call for responses and solutions. That's not what a Santorum candidacy offers. (As we've seen with the Santorum proposals to spur manufacturing with one single change in tax law, this is not a policy-serious campaign.) Instead, a Santorum candidacy offers an airing of resentments and grievances. Is that really where party conservatives want to go?
The media will make sure this is what happens.
The republican party doesn’t belong to conservatives so Frum’s comment has no real meaning beyond what it is. An attempt to manipulate conservatives to vote the way he thinks they should.
If this nit wit loser Frum is spinning off his axis over Santorum, that is just one more reason I like him. Frums a joke.
Yeah. When your enemy offers you advice, he hopes you'll be stupid enough to take it. The Democrats are hoping to run against Mitt Romney so they can enjoy total immunity for ObamaCare. The idea of a GOP nominee who rallies the Conservative base with plain talk about Freedom and Values and the outright repeal of ObamaCare scares them to death. Sadly, it also scares the elites of Socialist Party B, the Republican Party.
Santorum will help.
He’s counting on the pro-life vote to see him through.
They keep trying to herd us like we are cattle; at this point though we are many we are more like cats...
Cattle once you get them going in the right direction don’t take much- they follow the leader.
Cats, on the other hand cannot be herded.
Romneybot Frum dismisses Gingrich. Which explains why Gingrich must stay in the race. If Gingrich is out, Romney will have the nomination wrapped up.
David Frum is NO conservative. The Establishment always want a moderate to run. Enuf of Doles, Bushes, and McCains.
The only reason Gingrich is even in this race is to siphon off votes from Santorum. Seriously, you gotta know that Romney is paying Gingrich to stay in the race.
“Sadly, it also scares the elites of Socialist Party B, the Republican Party.”
Hooo! wooo! wooo! Be afraid Rove...
Rick for CIC!
Well somebody gets it. I have been saying this ever since he won the 3 nothing states that nobody else competed in. I have never understood how any thinking person could vote for this empty suit. He comes across like a whiny sanctimonious 5th grader. There was one true accomplished adult conservative in the race who could articulate the issues and the supposedly conservative base turned their backs on him to support a born again charismatic holier than thou Catholic (and yes I am a pro-life Catholic) with a big government establishment voting record.
Pray for a brokered convention.
In the case of this conservative, yes.
Fluke you Frum.
“Hooo! wooo! wooo! Be afraid Rove...” add verbrato between the ‘o’s.
"So tell me how Santorum had anything to do with the '10 PA Senate election? Reagan supported former Rat Specter before Santorum did. Should we blame him as well for the party switch even though he wasn't around either?" -- Thanks Lazlo in PA
Daid? What an unusual name for a man. Sounds either Irish or Welsh.
“In matters of taste, swim with the current. In matters of principle, stand like a rock.”
If Frum says, `Ja’ I say `Nay.’
Captain Rom needs conservative galley slaves so he can water-ski?
He can get the National Review, Weekly Standard and Wall Street Journal to row, & Skeletor Ann can lead the cheers.
Conservatives: No Mama, no Papa, no Party, no Uncle Sam.
Get on board the Love Boat with Captain Frum?
Hey, Dave—you !*#%ing “crunchy con”—you can kiss the only part of my *** that isn’t white!
I’d better stop now before I say what I’m really thinking.
“Pray for a brokered convention.”
I really wanted Newt, but he just isn’t winning.
How will a brokered convention really help us? If things keep going as they are Romulus will get it or be so close an alternative candidate won’t be offered.
Has this happened in the past?
I am thinking that now that Newt is going down, we have no alternative but to start support Ricky. Where else can we turn?
The only thing that makes me smile is that Ron Paul won’t be the nominee!
Then “you don’t love the constitution” do you? LOL
No. I don’t. I want to see Newt in the White House.
Not the way the Ron Paul backers do...:)
“Id better stop now before I say what Im really thinking.”
Why not state Frum for what he is?
I can’t stand Frum. But that is what is going to happen.
We will be running on Bishop Rick’s social agenda because he has no real economic reform to offer. He’s a big government guy who wants the Nanny to be a Catholic rather than a social marxist. I’d take Rick’s nanny over Obama’s slut nanny.
I share your desire, but not the word that you use to describe it. The word "brokered" carries a negative connotation that is aimed at making us believe that we must choose our nominee before the Convention or face disaster. Hogwash - choosing nominees is what conventions are for!
What I desire is an open convention, with Mitt Romney at 40 and the Not-Mitt Romneys at 60%. After the first ballot, the delegates will be free to choose our nominee. That's why they're there, and I'll support the nominee.
“Romneybot Frum dismisses Gingrich. Which explains why Gingrich must stay in the race. If Gingrich is out, Romney will have the nomination wrapped up.”
You got it, Mark.
“The Santorum candidacy pushes Republicans toward an election in which the issues are religious.... “
Whatever “religious” attacks may be made against Santorum by the ‘rats, they will be -nothing- compared to the anti-Mormon attacks made on Mr. Romney by the left and by the media.
Mr. Frum, get a clue.
I agree with you.
Frum is another Romniac who has made it a point to trash Palin, tea partyers, and conservatives in general.
The fact that a guy like him supports Romney is yet more indication that Romney is bad news.
When Palin was being trashed without mercy... by Repubs no less, I said that I would take notice who her attackers wound up working for, and I would never support that person. Surprise, surprise, they almost all turn out to be working for Romney.
Why is it always conservatives “who are doing this to their party”?
Why are the conservatives always the problem? Could they not just be REACTING to the people in the party causing the problems?
It’s time to start rejecting these premises by, frankly, liberals pretending to be open-minded compromise whores, that I believe want to be seen as great peacemakers and thus, feel they are the real powerbrokers that get the deals “done”.
Neither. It's Arabic--a place near Dubai.
hmmmm, verbrato. Would that be a pulsating verb? You do know what a portmanteau is right?
I think the term you were searching for is vibrato.
Okay, you asked for it. (sorry safari and IE users, this will not play for you...):
Hoo! woo! woo! Be afraid Rove...
In this election the issues are religious, cultural, sexual, as well as economic. And constitutional. Most people know that.
I don't pay no never mind about it.
Shows they are scared. GOOD.
Yep. Frum would rather run Ford, Dole, or McCain and get trounced in a civilized manner.
“There was one true accomplished adult conservative in the race who could articulate the issues and the supposedly conservative base turned their backs on him to support a born again charismatic holier than thou Catholic”
Yes, I’m still incredulous over it.
We need a brokered/contested convention, much to the establishment’s consternation.
I bear no ill will toward Santorum, but he can’t win. Our #1 mission is to get BHO out, and that requires cold objectivity. Romney is a sitting duck as well.
If Newt were the nominee, the media couldn’t ignore him or shut him down, and the masses would get to hear him.
“Cats, on the other hand cannot be herded”.
“I think the term you were searching for is vibrato.”
Re:”Hooo! wooo! wooo! Be afraid Rove...”
Perhaps, David, you should look at it like this: We don't want to go Romney's way.
Frum is a complete asshat. ..About the last guy conservatives should listen to.
Isn’t this hoser now an Obama backer?
Romney has made as many enemies in the Republican Party as he is likely to make in the Democrat Party.
A few days ago I made fun of that, and a Gingrich supporter took my head off claiming that Gingrich was actually praising Santorum for being smart enough to compete for those states, not calling them "nothing states".
Republicans need to compete in Colorado to win the Presidency. Your dismissal of that state, and worse, Missouri, doesn't make your opinion very credible. It would be nice to win the Minnesota Senate race as well, the 3rd state you dismiss as "nothing".