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Juan Williams: Dirty politics GOP style (Grab a bucket!)
The Hill ^ | August 28, 2012 | Juan Williams

Posted on 08/29/2012 12:25:02 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

This is one dirty campaign.

My fellow Fox political analyst Karl Rove sees the proof in the Obama campaign’s claims that Mitt Romney might be a felon and an Obama super-PAC advertisement blaming Romney for shuttering a factory and leaving a dying woman without health insurance.

Yes, there is dirt being thrown by the Obama campaign. But one of the biggest chunks of mud is proudly splattered all around the Republican National Convention site. I refer specifically to signs that read: “We Built It!”

For weeks, Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan have hammered President Obama for saying, “You didn’t build that.” Obama said those words during a speech arguing that people earning more than $250,000 should pay more taxes.

The rich should be willing to pay more, the president said, because of the public school teachers and taxpayers, as well as the nation’s roads and bridges, that contribute daily to America’s incredible record of business innovation and profits.

Here is President Obama’s full quote from the speech in Roanoke, Va., on July 13:

“If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen.”

The GOP willfully ignored the preceding four sentences in that quote and focused solely on “you didn’t build that.”

The Associated Press Fact Check has blasted Romney’s distortion, noting “the full quote makes clear Obama is talking about the conditions that help businesses and individuals succeed, such as teachers and infrastructure.”

Now, this is intentional distortion — dirty politics by any name. It suggests business has suffered under President Obama and that is why unemployment remains high.

The facts about how business has performed during the Obama years tell a different story.

When Obama took office in January 2009, the Dow Jones Industrial Average was hovering around 8,000. Last Friday (Aug. 24), it closed at 13,157. The Nasdaq has doubled since Obama took office.

Just four years ago, the economy was on the brink of total collapse. The Bush administration deserves credit for taking initial steps to stabilize the global panic with multibillion-dollar Wall Street bailouts. But it was Obama who inherited the aftermath — the Great Recession.

How can the Romney camp describe Obama as hostile to business when he cut taxes for small businesses 18 times in his first term? He signed the Small Business Jobs Act of 2010, which contained $200 billion in tax relief for small businesses. It also provided incentives for businesses to create jobs, invest and grow.

There is no debating that, under President Obama, corporate profits are at their highest levels in decades.

In fiscal 2011, the federal taxes corporations paid within the United States fell to 12.1 percent of profits, according to the Congressional Budget Office. That is far below 25.6 percent, the average paid by corporations from 1987 to 2008, the Wall Street Journal reported.

One of the biggest expenses for businesses is the cost of providing health insurance for their employees. The Affordable Care Act, which Republicans here in Tampa have vowed to repeal, helps small businesses reduce these costs.

Under the new law, employers with fewer than 50 employees are exempt from penalties for not covering their workers.

Now, small businesses with fewer than 25 workers and average wages of less than $50,000 are given tax credits to provide coverage to their workers.

Most importantly, the law sets up state health insurance exchanges starting in 2014. They will allow small businesses to buy coverage at a lower cost by expanding the risk pool and eliminating free riders thanks to the individual mandate.

But the Romney campaign continues to attack Obama’s healthcare plan as the enemy of business. And it continues to twist the Virginia speech into an attack on small-business owners. This is politics so dirty it covers over the truth. How can any Republican complain about dirty politics when smears aimed at the president are so visible at this convention?


TOPICS: Campaign News; Issues; Parties
KEYWORDS: democrats; economy; gop; liberalism; liberalpanic; obama; obamacare; romney; taxes; youdidntbuildthat
Laughable.
1 posted on 08/29/2012 12:25:06 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Juan is trying to stay relevant after his attack on women earlier this evening. How long before Juan throws out that overused and threadbare race card?

Sorry Juan, your boy is going down.


2 posted on 08/29/2012 12:30:39 AM PDT by 1035rep (Obama: "I killed Bin Laden" ...you didn't do that. Somebody else made that happen.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Very sycophantish of Williams. You’d almost think that PBS didn’t fire him.


3 posted on 08/29/2012 12:30:56 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: nutmeg

bookmark


4 posted on 08/29/2012 12:32:29 AM PDT by nutmeg (I'm with Sarah Palin and Ted Cruz: "ABO"/Ryan 2012)
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To: Olog-hai
Fox News should fire Williams also.
Stinkin' liberals should earn their money, and not be subsidized.
5 posted on 08/29/2012 12:33:47 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’d like to grab a bucket, put it over Juan Williams head, and bang it with a stick.


6 posted on 08/29/2012 12:46:48 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (I used to want to change the world. Now, I want to stop the world from changing me.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“The Associated Press Fact Check has blasted Romney’s distortion, noting “the full quote makes clear Obama is talking about the conditions that help businesses and individuals succeed, such as teachers and infrastructure.”

The libs lie their faces off. Yes, that is exactly what he said. Teachers and infrastructure are government controlled. Therefore, you didn’t build it yourself. The government did it.

It’s SO clear. It’s not like when they quote Rush, where they take things really out of context and make it seem like the opposite. Obama really DID give a speech on how the government is taking responsibility for YOUR successful business. There’s no taking out of context.

Not only that, but before this speech, I swear he gave another where he said basically the same thing, and people didn’t pick up on it. He said it TWICE.


7 posted on 08/29/2012 12:59:07 AM PDT by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"The GOP willfully ignored the preceding four sentences in that quote and focused solely on “you didn’t build that.”

Juan, those preceeding sentences don't change or modify the meaning of "you didn't build that' one whit. They reinforce the socialist philosphy behind the comment.

8 posted on 08/29/2012 1:00:18 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

How naive is Juan Williams? He’s obviously gullible. Is this his first time covering a political campaign?

Once he finishes his internship at Fox will he be hired at MSNBC?


9 posted on 08/29/2012 1:02:41 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The GOP willfully ignored the preceding four sentences in that quote and focused solely on “you didn’t build that.”

And Juan Williams is ignoring the preceding sentences, "I’m always struck by people who think, well, it must be because I was just so smart. There are a lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked harder than everybody else. Let me tell you something -- there are a whole bunch of hardworking people out there," which negate any contribution by the business builder from the success of the business. It is not effort or good decision-making that creates a business, it is the government provided education and government built infrastructure.

It's ridiculous without even considering that a business builder is already paying taxes to pay for education and infrastructure.

10 posted on 08/29/2012 1:22:50 AM PDT by UncleHambone ("Laughter is America's most important export." - Walt Disney)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I choose to look on the bright side. This guy will go away eventually.


11 posted on 08/29/2012 1:41:27 AM PDT by goodn'mad
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To: UncleHambone

Juan is desperate lately. Full-tilt super liberal.

TC


12 posted on 08/29/2012 1:42:43 AM PDT by Pentagon Leatherneck
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To: goodn'mad
juan willl soon go the way that alan colmes feller...went on hannity's show...Ailes pairs libs up with common sense conservatives and it works out well for awhile...folks get a chance to see the kooky differences between the 2 philosophies ...but soon..as libs are wont to do, ....they get tired of being destroyed night after night and they begin to resort to using jibberish to fight back with....that is because thats the only thing they have left TO fight back with. Soon it becomes obvious how dingy their ideas are... by that time they've descended so far into silliness they are no longer entertaining enough to hold an audience; then POOF they are banished back into inconsequential-land where they came from.
13 posted on 08/29/2012 2:25:49 AM PDT by jimsin (u)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

While Juan can have a nugget of logic every once in a while, his brain is so full of mush, it must be clogged.


14 posted on 08/29/2012 2:30:17 AM PDT by ADSUM
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Watching Juan on TV tonight was shocking. He looks like he is dying of cancer - gaunt, old and decrepit.

As far as his support of Obama - just another racist vote for the Black guy - not because the Black guy has done anything but destroy our economy but he gets support just because of the color of his skin (a notion anathema to Martin Luther King).


15 posted on 08/29/2012 3:19:45 AM PDT by veritas2002
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To: 1010RD

Juan isn’t naive at all, he is black.

Nuff said.


16 posted on 08/29/2012 3:35:49 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Here is President Obama’s full quote from the speech in Roanoke, Va., on July 13:”

And then Williams proceeds to leave out the full quote...the part where he ridicules successful people who ‘think their SO smart’.


17 posted on 08/29/2012 4:24:11 AM PDT by ilgipper
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To: Venturer
Juan isn’t naive at all, he is black.

Nuff said.

True, very sad, but true.

Skin pigmentation trumps everything rational.

This is tribalism at it's worst.

Remember, it was black africans that captured and sold other black africans to white europeans for the slave trade.

18 posted on 08/29/2012 4:28:55 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages, start today.)
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To: 1035rep

Juan isn’t very smart....we need to pity him.


19 posted on 08/29/2012 4:37:01 AM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Andrew Dice Clay's, "I have just one question for Geraldo Rivera..." would apply here. Perfectly.

;-\

20 posted on 08/29/2012 4:40:39 AM PDT by Gargantua ("Barrio Bummer ~ America's First Gay President")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“The Associated Press Fact Check”

Uh-huh. Kinda like the Josef Goebbels Fact Check in 1936 Germany.


21 posted on 08/29/2012 4:44:51 AM PDT by Walrus (Restoring America starts today! Let's roll!)
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To: Yosemitest

Gotta keep a token liberal?


22 posted on 08/29/2012 4:47:13 AM PDT by showme_the_Glory (ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yes, that sure compares with murder. Juan is losing it along with the rest of the Dem party. Funny how the truth hurts so bad they go ballistic.


23 posted on 08/29/2012 4:50:31 AM PDT by Hattie
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To: Venturer

Agreed. It is racism trying to camouflage itself.


24 posted on 08/29/2012 4:51:36 AM PDT by Loud Mime (I'll claim I speak for God only after I do acid, a few lines of coke and half a bottle of bourbon.)
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To: Ann Archy

I think after last night’s “corporate wife” baloney Williams should have to spend the rest of the month defending his own personal war on women. He accused Ann Romney of being a kept woman and one that didn’t convince him (as if that was even possible) that she understood the problems of average women. In this article he doesn’t understand why half the nation was totally insulted by Obama’s ridiculous remarks. Hannity and the others say he’s a good, smart guy. But he’s outing himself through exposure as just another incoherent, hateful dem libtard.


25 posted on 08/29/2012 4:51:42 AM PDT by major-pelham
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Juan Williams, Geraldo Rivera, Mike Huckabee and other creeps on Fox are reasons Fox is seen less and less at my house.


26 posted on 08/29/2012 4:53:58 AM PDT by kenmcg (t)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Juan just doesn’t get it. Poor guy.


27 posted on 08/29/2012 5:02:10 AM PDT by From The Deer Stand
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To: major-pelham
Next to Bob Beckel, I guess Juan IS a smart guy!! It's all relative, however he is DUMB as a bag of rocks.....sad. He can ONLY repeat old cliches and be mean about it......that shows his SHALLOW, LIMITED thinking.

He worked for PBS for gosh sakes.....need I say MORE??

28 posted on 08/29/2012 5:05:51 AM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
How can the Romney camp describe Obama as hostile to business when he cut taxes for small businesses 18 times in his first term? He signed the Small Business Jobs Act of 2010, which contained $200 billion in tax relief for small businesses. It also provided incentives for businesses to create jobs, invest and grow.

Juan, take your lazy ass off your gilded stage and get out and talk to a few small business people. If you have the brass ones, then come back and tell us what they think of your president and his support for small business.

29 posted on 08/29/2012 5:16:59 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Congrats to Ted Kennedy! He's been sober for two years now!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The race-baiting, “liberal wolf in conservative’s sheep clothing”, Juan Williams, cannot be taken for granted, on ANY subject.

Why?

Who can believe a turncoat?

All I have seen of him, through YouTube and an occasional Fox video, shows him to still be married-in-the-mind-to-PBS. He DOES still display his allegiance to Obama, and wears it on his sleeve, proudly.

He should be put out on the street.


30 posted on 08/29/2012 5:19:09 AM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

His after Ann Romneys speech comment, that she looked like a “corporate wife” you know taken care of? It was out of line, predictable and racist. His little reminder to voters that she is still rich and the wife of the corporate murderer, Romney. At least they earned their own meal ticket. What did he want her to look like, a black first lady who has been vacationing, partying and shopping on the back of the American people?


31 posted on 08/29/2012 5:22:32 AM PDT by Toespi
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

His after Ann Romneys speech comment, that she looked like a “corporate wife” you know taken care of? It was out of line, predictable and racist. His little reminder to voters that she is still rich and the wife of the corporate murderer, Romney. At least they earned their own meal ticket. What did he want her to look like, a black first lady who has been vacationing, partying and shopping on the back of the American people?


32 posted on 08/29/2012 5:24:40 AM PDT by Toespi
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Now, this is intentional distortion

Juan's been looking at the funhouse mirror so long that reality looks distorted.

33 posted on 08/29/2012 5:31:50 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Once again skin color trumps "content of character". If white Americans practiced racial loyalty to the extent that black Americans do, 0bama would have no chance of getting reelected.
34 posted on 08/29/2012 5:34:27 AM PDT by windsorknot
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Barry’s comment only gets worse in context.


35 posted on 08/29/2012 5:48:29 AM PDT by DManA
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
When you start taking flak, you're over the target.

"We Built It" is the single best tag-line, strategy of this campaign season. The DemocRATS "war on women" was created by George Stephonoplis during the Republican primary debates, but "We Built It" comes right from Obama's own words.

We need to stick with this meme no matter home much heat we get.
36 posted on 08/29/2012 5:50:09 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What other country in the world would this fool Juan be considered an expert or given any authority?

Dumb as a rock.


37 posted on 08/29/2012 5:52:57 AM PDT by Vision ("Did I not say to you that if you would believe, you would see the glory of God?" John 11:40)
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To: 1010RD

He’s not gullible. Like most such individuals in the media, he’s consciously evil.


38 posted on 08/29/2012 6:01:06 AM PDT by Little Ray (AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: Venturer

“Juan isn’t naive at all, he is black.”

You’re so right! Interesting that his son (also black, I assume) is ultra conservative and working for “our” side. Juan must discuss politics with his kid so would know the truth. So you’re right in that “he is black”. I hate it when people are black before they’re American. They’re pathetic because they lack critical thinking skills.


39 posted on 08/29/2012 6:07:21 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: Venturer

I’m sympathetic. Few whites realize just how hard it is to be a black conservative or even a moderate. If you step off the plantation you lose a lot. I suspect that Juan Williams is bouncing back and forth between lucidity/reality and liberalism.


40 posted on 08/29/2012 6:16:55 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Venturer

http://www.wbez.org/blogs/achy-obejas/2012-08/gop-convention-marvel-diversity-real-101967?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+cprpolitics+%28WBEZ+News%3A+Politics%29

Liberalism is a culture totally obsessed with race and sex.


41 posted on 08/29/2012 6:17:59 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Little Ray

I don’t think they’re consciously evil. They’re presumptuous. They’re indoctrinated and blind, but not consciously evil.

Look at their culture:

http://www.wbez.org/blogs/achy-obejas/2012-08/gop-convention-marvel-diversity-real-101967?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+cprpolitics+%28WBEZ+News%3A+Politics%29

It is obsessed with race and sex. Almost like a mental illness.


42 posted on 08/29/2012 6:19:13 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Vision

If my feeble memory hasn’t failed me again, Juan Williams was born and raised in Panama.

BTW, it really seems to be very difficult for the foreign born, such as Obama and Juan to comprehend common sense, American values.


43 posted on 08/29/2012 6:25:30 AM PDT by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: circlecity

Exactly.


“The GOP willfully ignored the preceding four sentences in that quote and focused solely on “you didn’t build that.”
Juan, those preceeding sentences don’t change or modify the meaning of “you didn’t build that’ one whit. They reinforce the socialist philosphy behind the comment.


44 posted on 08/29/2012 6:35:15 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Yaelle

Somebody invested in roads and bridges.(period) If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that. (Sentence) Somebody else made that happen.” (Sentence) Does Juan have a clue how commas and periods work in the proper use of grammer?


45 posted on 08/29/2012 6:52:14 AM PDT by stocksthatgoup (Common sense although common knowledge is seldom common practice.)
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To: Graewoulf

They weren’t born into a first world country.


46 posted on 08/29/2012 7:53:09 AM PDT by Vision ("Did I not say to you that if you would believe, you would see the glory of God?" John 11:40)
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To: 1035rep

Juan is trying to stay relevant after his attack on women earlier this evening. How long before Juan throws out that overused and threadbare race card?

Sorry Juan, your boy is going down.


According Juan Williams, Ann Romney is a corporate wife because she’s really rich. Liberal logic equates being rich to having been born with the silver spoon in the hand.

I don’t recall anyone saying that Michelle Obama is a “crony wife” by accepting a position with the hospital in Chicago after her husband was elected to the US Senate which began paying her over $300k a year for what again? To dissuade lower income people from coming to the main hospital for emergency services?


47 posted on 08/29/2012 8:17:57 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: major-pelham

Juan is mad because Mitt has taken care of his wife!!!!!!! OMG!!! What kind of husband DOESN’T take care of his wife......huh Juan????? YOU????


48 posted on 08/29/2012 11:09:11 AM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I welcomed Mr. Williams to come over to our side and see how much better he was treated by Republicans than his own party. He was treated badly by those who he embraced as peers. He has common sense sometimes.
His remark about Mrs. Romney was uncalled for and my opinion of him has diminished .


49 posted on 08/29/2012 12:32:29 PM PDT by lucky american (The Democrats will follow the big "D"even if it means going over a cliff.)
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