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The GOP doesn't just have a woman problem, it doesn't understand women
The Guardian ^ | March 9, 2014 | Ana Marie Cox

Posted on 03/09/2014 7:44:28 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Carly Fiorina, former California GOP senate challenger to Barbara Boxer, emerged at the Conservative Political Action Conference here as the speaker most willing to engage the Republicans' persistent problems with appealing to women. Well, after she spent the first half of her speech denying climate change. Priorities!

Fiorina didn't offer a solution, but she did offer some great slogans: "I am a proud pro-life woman. ... I believe science is proving us right everyday!" (Hey, don't knock junk science until you've tried it, right?) She also echoed a feminist line when she said, "All issues are women's issues."

I like that line. I've used it myself. But, to judge by the speakers at CPAC this weekend, what she means is, "There's a woman's angle to every issue." You know, ladies care about health care because we have babies! (Especially when we don't have a choice.) Women care about guns because how else will we defend ourselves! (I fear for the woman who told the audience that she sleeps with a "loaded gun next to my bed and I've never felt safer".)

But when feminists talk about every issue being a women's issue, we're not talking about finding a way to make a specific policy agenda appeal to women. What most feminists mean by that is "There's a larger economic or policy angle to every issue dismissed as 'women's'."

The leaders of the GOP just can't comprehend that women's circumstances – decades of discrimination against them – might mean that policies, or the lack of policies, which seem perfectly fair to "everyone else" (white men, basically) have a different impact on them....

(Excerpt) Read more at theguardian.com ...


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Just what I expected from this newspaper. You?
1 posted on 03/09/2014 7:44:28 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

To libs, a way to a woman’s heart is through sucking out a baby out of the womb..nothing makes libs happier than seeing babies being slaughtered in abortion clinics


2 posted on 03/09/2014 7:47:37 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
GOPe doesn't understand women?

Who the heck does?

Well, there is always the free stuff gambit....

3 posted on 03/09/2014 7:49:18 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
it doesn't understand women

It seem to remember a certain psychologist expressing the same frustration:

The great question that has never been answered, and which I have not yet been able to answer, despite my thirty years of research into the feminine soul, is "What does a woman want?"

4 posted on 03/09/2014 7:49:57 PM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
white men, basically

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5 posted on 03/09/2014 7:50:05 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

A bunch of left-wing limeys complaining about the GOP.

Why don’t they butt out of our affairs and worry about their own damn country?


6 posted on 03/09/2014 7:50:37 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (I don't want to feel "safe." I want to feel FREE!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

These commie rats still loathe Thatcher-Reagan.

They are going to push the “GOP hates women” meme. International Communist Women’s Day was just celebrated.

Stalinists lie. ALWAYS.


7 posted on 03/09/2014 7:50:54 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The Texas judge's decision was to pave the way for same sex divorce for two Massachusetts women.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Collectivism classifies people into groups, nothing more. The individual is nothing..


8 posted on 03/09/2014 7:51:29 PM PDT by lurk
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bfl


9 posted on 03/09/2014 7:53:19 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: lurk

Identity politics only matter if you serve The Party. If you are a conservative, then you are a race traitor, confused, suffer from battered woman syndrome, or are plain “dumb”.


10 posted on 03/09/2014 7:53:29 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The Texas judge's decision was to pave the way for same sex divorce for two Massachusetts women.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Wymyn want to be “kept” by their ‘Rat Overlords.


11 posted on 03/09/2014 7:53:43 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"The default position of American women is what men refer to as "the chip," a veiled truculence, mixed with a not-very-veiled hostility toward men and a shaky sense of sexual identity. The result is a touchiness reminiscent of hungover ferrets. There is a bandsaw edge to them, a watching for any slight so that they can show that they aren't going to take it. They are poised to lash out in aggressive defense of their manhood.

"As best as I can tell, they don't like being women. Here is the entire problem in five words." -- Fred Reed

Of course the GOP doesn't understand women like this. Neither does the rest of the world.

12 posted on 03/09/2014 7:56:42 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: lurk
Bingo. The individual is nothing to communists, it is the state above all else.
13 posted on 03/09/2014 7:56:58 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: vbmoneyspender

A man was walking along a Florida beach and stumbled across an old lamp. He picked it up and rubbed it, and out popped a genie.

The genie said, “OK, You released me from the lamp, blah blah blah. This is the fourth time this month, and I’m getting a little sick of these wishes so you can forget about three... You only get one wish!”

The man sat, and thought about it for a while and said, “I’ve always wanted to go to Hawaii, but I’m scared to fly, and I get very seasick. Could you build me a bridge to Hawaii so I can drive over there to visit?”

The genie laughed and said, “That’s impossible!!!

Think of the logistics of that! How would the supports ever reach the bottom of the Pacific? Think of how much concrete — how much steel!! No, think of another wish.”

The man said, “OK, I’ll try to think of a really good wish.”

Finally, he said, “I’ve been married and divorced four times. My wives always said that I don’t care and that I’m insensitive.

So, I wish that I could understand women, know how they feel inside, what do women want?

The genie said, “Do you want that bridge to be two lanes or four?”


14 posted on 03/09/2014 7:59:21 PM PDT by ansel12 (Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"The GOP Doesn't Just Have a Woman Problem, It Doesn't Understand Women."

Who does?

*ducking*

15 posted on 03/09/2014 8:00:55 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: Paladin2

You beat me to it!! LOL!


16 posted on 03/09/2014 8:01:14 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

With Obama on the way out and Hillary on the way in, it’s time to put away the race card and break out the sexist card.


17 posted on 03/09/2014 8:01:42 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

Wasn’t (Isn’t?) Ana Marie Cox the Wonkette?


18 posted on 03/09/2014 8:02:32 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: vbmoneyspender
...which I have not yet been able to answer, despite my thirty years of research into the feminine soul, is "What does a woman want?"

I'll tell you what we want. We want people to be able to read our minds even when we can't!

We also want more shoes.

19 posted on 03/09/2014 8:02:53 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Wow!
As a Republican woman, I had no idea the GOP was supposed to treat my politics and value my vote differently than Republican men.

That sounds more like a disjointed Democrat tactic ....

20 posted on 03/09/2014 8:06:11 PM PDT by sarasmom (Extortion 17. A large number of Navy SEALs died on that mission. Ask why.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Women's issues, minority issues, elder issues, gay issues, poor people issues, short people issues, are the same as everybody else's issues. dividing people into different groups is the first step in creating the perception of inequality, discrimination, or unfairness.

Then the marxists, having discovered (created) the issue, offer to take you under their wing and help you solve it.

21 posted on 03/09/2014 8:06:26 PM PDT by oldbrowser (Civil service unions are the real government)
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To: ansel12

LOL


22 posted on 03/09/2014 8:07:29 PM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: Mr. Jeeves; 2ndDivisionVet
"The default position of American women is what men refer to as "the chip," a veiled truculence, mixed with a not-very-veiled hostility toward men and a shaky sense of sexual identity. The result is a touchiness reminiscent of hungover ferrets. There is a bandsaw edge to them, a watching for any slight so that they can show that they aren't going to take it. They are poised to lash out in aggressive defense of their manhood.

It's not new. There's nothing new under the sun.

I remind American women: men are our sole defenders. Treat them with love and respect.

23 posted on 03/09/2014 8:07:51 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: Finny

The GOPe needs to support gov’t funded Shoe Stamps.


24 posted on 03/09/2014 8:07:54 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: sarasmom

And lets not forget how white men have treated you especially bad.


25 posted on 03/09/2014 8:08:30 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The fact that I didn’t support Obama led some former friends to label me a racist. But as my good friend, who is Black and Evangelical, said ‘you don’t like Hillary either, do you hate women?’. I am a woman. The epithet is all that matters and the LIVs buy into it just like Big Media tells them to. We have become a country of fools.


26 posted on 03/09/2014 8:09:23 PM PDT by originalbuckeye (Moderation in temper is always a virtue; moderation in principle is always a vice. Paine)
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To: Paladin2

LOL!!


27 posted on 03/09/2014 8:10:10 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: ansel12

Old joke with a lot of applications. Still funny.


28 posted on 03/09/2014 8:13:00 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: Finny
Wymyn's shoes are make them lame.
29 posted on 03/09/2014 8:13:37 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Governors Brewer, Haley, Martinez, just off the top.


30 posted on 03/09/2014 8:14:10 PM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

How stupid, I went door to door today for a local candidate for Congress, half were women (and this was a Republican list)!


31 posted on 03/09/2014 8:15:01 PM PDT by JSDude1 (Defeat Hagan, elect a Constutional Conservative: Dr. Greg Brannon!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They say this so minorities can have abortions out of proportion with the population and libs can talk about women’s rights. The Guardian alrighty is one of the enemy newspapers, worse than what is in the US, as difficult as that may be.


32 posted on 03/09/2014 8:15:41 PM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: originalbuckeye

Back when black America had more class and had not gotten so deep into pity parties, it would have been insulted at a Barack Obama. THAT was supposed to be the pinnacle of black American leadership? No, that’s a sock puppet full of marxist cant without a mind of his own.


33 posted on 03/09/2014 8:18:24 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: originalbuckeye
We have become a country of fools.

I hate to say it, but we've become a country of timid, traumatized men, and who's damned fault is that? Grrrrrrrrr. The government (of course), the Left, and women. No Fault Divorce, where women overwhelmingly have gotten the spoils of parental authority for the past two generations, has done more to rape boys and men in America than anything, and it was powered and enabled by the left and government. The boy sees his father an emasculated slave, and wonders what he has to look forward to as a dad himself.

I'd rather vote for men. I'm almost a misogynist, though I'm a woman. I love Thatcher, I love Palin. I'd vote for both. But on balance, I prefer men. It saddens me to see that in America today, THE WOMEN are the ones carrying the Limited Government Conservative banner so high -- where the hell are the guys? But I know they're there, I'm just bitching.

Hey, I'm female.

34 posted on 03/09/2014 8:22:38 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: Finny

OK that’s funny ha ha. Women with any brains want the same things men do. We want our children and grandchildren to have a future as free people. We want not to be robbed by the IRS. We want to be able to live without bigbrother looking over our shoulder . We want babies to not be murdered in or out of the womb. We want our elders not to be murdered just becausethey’re old and iinconvenient.

I think the “Women’s Issues” are way overblown and I am suspicious of women who want to make a big issue of the difference in men and women. The similarities in this day and age are too close and too critical.


35 posted on 03/09/2014 8:23:44 PM PDT by buckeye49
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Carly Fiorina

Isn't she a woman?

36 posted on 03/09/2014 8:24:12 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: buckeye49

Ditto Sister FReeper.


37 posted on 03/09/2014 8:26:55 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: Finny

Agree completely. I have always said that I wish we had a Margaret Thatcher in this country. A woman who could rise above the destruction that the Media promotes. But I sometimes feel like Diogenes.


38 posted on 03/09/2014 8:31:15 PM PDT by originalbuckeye (Moderation in temper is always a virtue; moderation in principle is always a vice. Paine)
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The leaders of the GOP just can't comprehend that women's circumstances – decades of discrimination against them – might mean that policies, or the lack of policies, which seem perfectly fair to "everyone else" (white men, basically) have a different impact on them....

I guess there are no women conservatives or Republicans.

Oh wait, I'm sorry, there are, but they don't exist. You see, Democrat women don't disagree with others, or have discussions, or debate, or consider alternative viewpoints.

No, no, no. These peace-loving, baby and families oriented paragons have a much better method of dealing with disagreement:

They Erase You.

So you see, there are no Conservative or Republican women. They don't exist. Right now, it's figurative. Such women are shunned and not acknowledged, literally denied their humanity and existence.

But as history has repeatedly shown, that's not where progressives leave things. Oh no. Because some sunny day they'll be able to ACTUALIZE their dream of "peace" and actually make all those disagreeing women... disappear.

And then liberal women can say there really, actaully are no conservative or Republican women in America, just like the president of Iran looks the whole world in the eyes and says quite truthfully that there are no homosexuals in Iran.

You think the same females that can chop up a living breathing 9 month old baby into bloody pieces and call it freedom won't do this? LOL! Dream on!

They DREAM of it.

39 posted on 03/09/2014 8:32:37 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: buckeye49
I used to be somewhat of a Feminist.......until I saw the famous Feminists (including Anita Hill) give Bill Clinton a pass and go after the women he had groped and assaulted. I realized that Feminists aren't actually for women, they are just for Left-wing causes and use women to get their agenda through. Sadly, too many women buy into the victim meme. If Feminists would be for ALL women, they would be a powerful force. But they aren't; they are just female Left-wing hacks using women.
40 posted on 03/09/2014 8:35:24 PM PDT by originalbuckeye (Moderation in temper is always a virtue; moderation in principle is always a vice. Paine)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Stupid author and stupid left-wing paper. They can’t think beyond sexuality.


41 posted on 03/09/2014 8:38:34 PM PDT by Moorings
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And from this leftie author....she and the Guardian deserve each other


42 posted on 03/09/2014 8:44:59 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Finny

Yesterday I watched more than Sarah on CPAC and there was an interesting woman’s panel discussing the GOP’s problems with women. One panelist, whose name I forget but she’s on FOX frequently - long dark hair and looks like Kristin Davis from Sex in the City - said that the GOP lets too much go unanswered.

As an example she pointed to the recent Virginia governor’s race in which McAwful did his “war on women” meme and Cuchinelli never responded to that attack. The panelist blamed the consultants. And for good measure, she and the other 3 panelists went into a dialogue about all the issues that conservatives have that support women.

This brings me to Pat Caddell’s really good rant about the political consultants who don’t care about losing - they only care about their own jobs and he blamed much of what is wrong with GOP candidates on these consultants. He also went into Obama and the horror that has become the rat party.

Sarah also mentioned the consultants - as you probably know. Those jerks, Nicole Wallace etc, trashed Sarah every which way and call themselves Republicans. Yeah, right. They have no principles except their own bank accounts.

The candidates need to stand up and ANSWER the ridiculous attacks from the rats. War On Woman - I’m shocked anyone ever believed it but I guess they did. And you know what? I bet the rats are also shocked they got away with it.


43 posted on 03/09/2014 8:46:44 PM PDT by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - they were coup d'etats.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yeah, their party is made up of faggots, dykes, muzzies, blacks, bitter female divorcees, and the misguided youth of this country. You ever witnessed the average relationship in those communities?
On the other hand we have us, of whom I am one. I’ve been married 20 years, to my first and only wife.
They claim to understand women better than us......


44 posted on 03/09/2014 8:48:08 PM PDT by ExpatGator (I hate Illinois Nazis!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The liberal piss ant female writers are gearing up for a full blown assault upon the women of the GOP. The Democrat women can make stupid remarks that are openly idiotic and they get a pass.


45 posted on 03/09/2014 8:51:43 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yet we manage to propagate.


46 posted on 03/09/2014 8:54:30 PM PDT by Usagi_yo (Standardization is an Evolutionary dead end.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

GOP does not have a woman problem, it has a conservative problem. Just look at the speaker referenced in this article.


47 posted on 03/09/2014 8:54:39 PM PDT by HonkyTonkMan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hmmmm....I’m a woman...I’m a conservative....if they mean the RINO’s....then YES....they have a problem...but, it isn’t with just women


48 posted on 03/09/2014 8:58:04 PM PDT by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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To: originalbuckeye; Finny

It’s always “I’m female. Black. Gay. Handicapped. AND REPUBLICANS HATE ME”!! These people should hang around a real tea party meeting and see the respect these folks, male and female treat each other with. We all realize we are in this together and what is good for the men is good for the women, and in fact we at this point are the same- human.


49 posted on 03/09/2014 9:13:54 PM PDT by buckeye49
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Guardian is a bunch of left-wing poofters, and they think THEY understand women?


50 posted on 03/09/2014 9:16:05 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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