Skip to comments.Are you ready for Bush/Paul 2016?
Posted on 04/24/2014 9:29:38 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
A corollary to yesterdays post spitballing about what Paul might do if Jeb (or someone else) squashes him in the early primaries. Whatever you think of Rands chances at the nomination, says Ramesh Ponnuru, hes a strong contender for VP. Do the math:
Lets say the Kentucky legislator makes a strong run winning some states and coming close in others but doesnt win the nomination, a scenario that seems more likely than not. He has something going for him in the veepstakes that other Republican also-rans would not: a constituency that might well defect in large numbers from the party in November.
Assuming Paul loses, the Libertarian Party will have an easier task than usual: It will be able to concentrate its organizing among the people who voted for Paul in the primaries. That could easily amount to enough voters to deny Republicans a victory in the general election. (In other words, the libertarian candidate in this situation would be Ralph Nader in reverse.)
The winning Republican nominee would need Paul to campaign actively for him to prevent this scenario. But why wouldnt Paul just go home to Kentucky to campaign for his own re-election? His Senate seat will be up in 2016.
Actually, unless Kentucky law changes or Paul wins a court battle declaring it unconstitutional, hed be barred by statute from running for the Senate once he commits to running for president. That gives him even less incentive to make nice with the GOP nominee and campaign hard on his behalf, which makes the VP scenario even more likely. The eventual nominee, assuming it isnt Rand himself, has to offer him the veep slot to keep libertarians and pro-Rand tea partiers in the fold. Doesnt he?
Probably, yeah although it may be that we end up with a nominee whos so hostile to Paul and his philosophy that hed refuse to add him to the ticket on principle, whatever that might mean for November. Christie might fit that bill, Ted Cruz obviously wouldnt. Bush is an interesting case: Hed rather stay far away from Paulism, Id guess, but Pauls different kind of Republican brand would be attractive to a guy wholl be hammered as a dynasty case and retread. If you want to signal to voters that youre breaking from the GOPs recent (Bush-heavy) past, Rand Pauls the man you want to run with. Itd certainly help Bush get a grudging second look from grassroots righties. I think Rand would accept the offer too, despite the howls from hardcore ideologues in his base that hed sold out and was being exploited by the enemy. Between endorsing Mitch McConnell in the Kentucky Senate primary and taking a more hawkish stand on Russia lately, hes showed that hes willing to compromise with the establishment in the name of improving his odds nationally. Serving as VP would give him the ultimate establishment cred and put him in line for the nomination down the road. Hes young by presidential standards. He can wait.
Heres the X factor: Will establishment hawks and the GOPs donor class tolerate having Paul on the ticket? If he wins an early primary or two, theyre going to kitchen-sink him with harsh attacks he hates Israel, he fraternizes with racists, hed destroy respect for American power in the world even more thoroughly than Obama has, and certainly he wouldnt stand a chance against Hillary in the general. Its not easy to switch in a matter of months from that position to hey, lets put him one heartbeat away. In particular, itd be odd to go from claiming that Paul is electoral poison as nominee to claiming that itd be electoral poison not to nominate him for VP for the reason Ponnuru gives (although that argument can, and probably will, be made). Just for example, could someone like McCain endorse a Bush/Paul or Rubio/Paul ticket? Could Christie? Could Sheldon Adelson, on whom the GOP is counting to donate tens of millions of dollars in the general election? Most Republicans would be good soldiers but you only need a small yet influential group of Paul critics to threaten to walk in order to get the nominee to think twice about Rand.
Exit question: Is there some middle-ground solution here, like a cabinet appointment for Paul, that would avoid the VP dilemma? Er, which cabinet position would he be an obvious candidate for?
Jeb Bush is trash. No way in hell.
i’d let Hillary win first!
Jindal, Walker or Christie are the only RINO dreams that could come true.
Is Mitch Daniels big on foreign policy or is he a open slate?
Rand will have problems finding a VP who has not already committed to unlimited war.
Jeb is a fat joke.
They will lose. Paul has become an establishment candidate in my mind. No Bushes, no Pauls. No way.
I’ll take a hard kick to the groin for 500, Alex....
(I know probably this idea won’t fly, but still)
How do FReepers feel about a Palin / Paul ticket?
umm no. I’d rather play naked twister with a naked Moochel obama than vote for those 2 turds.
I agree with your idea.
Just asking is all.
I have no idea what the other 399,999 FReepers prefer. We shall see.
Paul is just too GOPe like, to liberal on too many issues.
Frankly it isn’t just issues, the more we see of Paul, he seems to be a floundering, confused, un-centered, and wishy washy guy, that makes his desire to be president, sort of like what we saw with Romney, why?
I agree on immigration and some social issues he is a weakling.
But I still dont think he would ever got on the ticket or get any special treatment.
It is going to be kind of obvious if he drops out after ending in the top 3 in a heap of states.
Palin for President: ‘Because Guys have been Screwing the Oval Office Pooch Long Enough, and Hillary Is A Dude’.
Paul for Under Secretary of Hale-Bopp Cometary Affairs.
No for Paul.
Jeb getting the nomination is tantamount to saying the party’s quit in place anyway, so no.
YES FOR CRUZ/PALIN THAT IS.
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