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To: Sivad

You clearly are not reading my posts, and if population and immigration were the problem, then Texas would have been long gone as well. You can’t keep clinging to Texas being second to California in population to explain generations of history.

I never said that the types of people moving to Texas now will maintain it’s conservatism, I said,
“”What killed California, aside form the immigration, was that California was never right wing, social conservative, like Texas is, and always was.
California always leaned rino/libertarian, so it didn’t have the underlying muscle to prevent being absorbed by the left.
Texas actively fights for it’s conservatism AND, it’s Christian conservatism.””

“” California has always been known as a liberal state, even when voting republican.
Texas has always been known as a conservative state, even when it voted democrat.””

“”Even in the time of Reagan, when I lived in both Texas and California, largely as a drifter and hitchhiker, California was know as the promise land for social liberals, while people were terrified to hitchhike through Texas because it was tough, and didn’t take guff from lefties.

Texas was thought of during the 60s and 70s just as it is thought of today, even harsher actually, with Austin being seen as an oasis in the middle of a bunch of right wingers, and Christians.
California has always been seen as the place to flee to if you were a liberal and especially a social liberal, to escape the right wingers and Christians, regardless of which right wing state you lived in, it was known as a rino/libertarian type state, regardless of who the governor was.
People largely came to California, because it was famously liberal, and never more than moderate.””

“”Yet my first two shocking experiences with welfare in California were in the 1960s, they already had a national reputation that had people moving here for the welfare.””

“”Do you know why California was a magnet for the left during the 50s and 60s, and 70s, and Texas never has been?
Do you think homosexuals in Texas, and dopers, and pro-abortion people, did not dream of California liberalism since before you were born?””

“”The nature and the generations old reputations of the two states are different, and rightfully so.

Texas and California took different paths long ago, in fact, they were always different in regards to being conservative and liberal.

Fifty and 60 years ago this state was often voting republican but was proud of it’s open and “enlightened” ways, well, here you are.

Neither one of us has ever seen a right wing, social conservative California, and neither one of us has ever seen a liberal, social liberal Texas.

How do you think Texas keeps moving right, yet has the second largest population in America?

The answer is that Texas and Texans are fundamentally different from California, and were, generations ago.

What do you remember the national reputation of the two states being in 1965 or 1970?””


52 posted on 05/22/2014 11:15:44 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: ansel12

Thanks for the review but you just rehashed the same personal
fantasy as opposed to reality. In 1965 I remember California as
a place that had voted for Richard Nixon in 1960. Seems to me
voters in Texas both alive and dead had chosen JFK in 1960.
What the hell difference does it make? Where you go wrong is
that you think others are as stuck on politics as you. Most
people don’t care. For the vast majority changing opportunities
drives immigration habits. You obviously have not read my
posts either or maybe you would have answered my question
about whether or not the US is more or less conservative than
in the past.


53 posted on 05/23/2014 1:06:52 AM PDT by Sivad (NorCal red turf)
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