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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I am critical of Libertarians, but this is just crap. Somalia is a failed state with an effectively anarchical legal system, it is also engaged in a low level civil war.

This is not what Libertarians envision.... at all.

Libertarianism has most of the economic aspects correct. An economically libertarian state would be very prosperous, as Pinochet-era Chile and early America prove. I do think it would fail culturally with the current population of America, who could not be more different than the set of Americans whom the Founders crafted the Constitution for.

If you had presented the current population to the Founders and asked them which society would best suit these people, they likely would have proposed a rigid dictatorship just to keep the idiots from killing themselves.

Libertarianism stands and falls on presuppositions about the people who will live under it. I would say modern America falls far short of those requirements, no matter how much John Stossel plugs women’s liberation and same-sex ‘marriage’.


6 posted on 07/06/2014 8:09:03 PM PDT by Viennacon (Rebuke the Repuke!)
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To: Viennacon

Why the hell does everyone (The MSM) think limited government equals no government when it comes to Libertarians?????


17 posted on 07/06/2014 9:13:30 PM PDT by GraceG (No, My Initials are not A.B.)
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To: Viennacon
Libertarianism stands and falls on presuppositions about the people who will live under it. I would say modern America falls far short of those requirements, no matter how much John Stossel plugs women’s liberation and same-sex ‘marriage’.

You're right. Political Libertarianism requires a) self discipline, which is required for "enlightened self-interest." And b) a total rejection of the liberal mindset, which believes that "I deserve what you've worked to achieve."

Mark

22 posted on 07/07/2014 12:40:43 AM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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