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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I think that Obama is a marionette who dances on the strings of his controllers, the main one being Valerie Jarrett. She hates the United States and wants to bring it down. She's done a good job of it.

But . . . and I think this is where Obama's controllers are deluded. They think that they can create all sorts of chaos and that the people will instinctively turn to the Feds and willingly give up their freedom for some illusory security. I think they couldn't be more wrong about that. Quite to the contrary. After five years of Obama and his federal power grab, the prestige of the federal government has never been lower. Maybe after Watergate it was lower, but I doubt it. Essentially nobody in fly-over country has any faith at all in the feds.

They think they're pulling the people closer to Washington but they're actually creating a very powerful centripetal force driving the people and their States away from Washington. The States and counties (Sheriff Joe is riding high right now) are increasing in power and influence. Not the feds.

Typical deluded libtard thinking. Which is why I, as a dyed-in-the-wool States rights guy, see a silver lining to this terrible black cloud. The fedgov is terribly weakened by all of this. It might never recover basic trust. Heck, federal troops wussies out and ran like scared rats from a ragtag bunch of militiamen at Bundy Ranch recently. They can't secure a border. Nobody could possibly take them seriously.

I'd say Zero has actually been good for my cause so far. I hate to say that. I really do. I wish it didn't have to come to this. But it did. But another couple years of this madness - throw in another couple of humiliating SCOTUS defeats, abuse-of-power scandals, maybe a nice financial meltdown, a terrorist attack or two or three and so on - and we might just see a slew of Red States adopting in their Constitutions the principle of state nullification of federal law.

Any libtard who ever thought that Cloward-Piven would work was delusional from the get-go. And besides, the clear trend of history is away from centralized power. The former Yugoslavia. The former Soviet Union. Nowadays Catalonia and Scotland are vying for decentralized control of their own destinies. For people who don't believe in American exceptionalism, they sure do seem to think that America is a major exception from the de-centralizing trend of the past 30 years.

20 posted on 07/12/2014 8:22:05 PM PDT by Gluteus Maximus
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To: Gluteus Maximus

interesting,
very interesting.
I see some rays of light,,,


34 posted on 07/12/2014 8:53:52 PM PDT by Big Red Badger ( - William Diamonds Drum - can You Hear it G man?)
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To: Gluteus Maximus

Yup, the anarchy strategy will be as workable as every other liberal/socialist philosophy that has been foisted on America. Of course, they are like cockroaches - they keep coming back.


43 posted on 07/12/2014 9:58:46 PM PDT by Thickman (Obama - President Ubiquitous (a.k.a. P.U.))
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To: Gluteus Maximus
I respectfully but emphatically dissent from your well expressed reply.

I remain fully committed to Nathan Bedford's second Maxim of American politics: Failed socialism is invariably "reformed" with more socialism.

That is simply a new way of describing Cloward and Piven. I do not think that the public's perception of government or of Washington is central to the outcome, the great mass of voters who are ill-informed but who decide elections vote their pocketbooks, vote their perceived self-interest, and see those interests often as personalities rather than issues.

Hence, the more tragic the consequences of failed socialism the more likely the man on horseback.

I know of no institution beginning with the media, running through academia, continuing on to our churches and our eleemosynary foundations, which will support true reform or even begin to educate the electorate about what really is going on. These are the institutions which inform and shape our culture and it is culture which trumps politics.

This is an occasion in which I deeply hope that I am wrong and you are right.


56 posted on 07/13/2014 4:32:57 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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