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The GOP's Gay-Rights Reboot: An effort to change the Republican Party's platform.
National Journal ^ | 07/14/2014 | Michael Catalini

Posted on 07/14/2014 8:53:25 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Inside the offices of Republican gay-rights groups, a strategy is forming to convince party leaders to strip opposition to gay marriage from the GOP platform.

The target, operatives say, is to see party leaders drop their support for a gay-marriage ban in time for the Republican National Convention in summer 2016.

It's a long shot, but Republican gay-rights lobbyists think they can build on the momentum provided by courts nationwide and the belief that, philosophically, the GOP's social conservatives are fighting a battle that puts them well out of step with the majority of the country, and that could demographically doom national aspirations.

"The ground has never been more inviting and welcoming to someone changing their position on the issue," said Marc Solomon, a former Republican Hill staffer, now with Freedom to Marry. "Where the polling is on the issue, it shows that we have a real legitimate chance at victory in 2016."

A group called Young Conservatives for the Freedom to Marry is part of the effort to remove the traditional-marriage plank from the GOP platform at the Cleveland convention. Already, the group has met with state and county party officials in New Hampshire, and they're planning trips to Iowa in August and to South Carolina and Nevada in September.

(Excerpt) Read more at nationaljournal.com ...


TOPICS: Issues; Parties
KEYWORDS: 2016issues; 2016rncplatform; gaymarriage; gayrights; gop; homosexualagenda; homosexuality; uniparty
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1 posted on 07/14/2014 8:53:25 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
RINOs on the march.
2 posted on 07/14/2014 8:57:46 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Fully indoctrinated college republicans are driving it along with completely fake republicans who vote straight ticket democrat.

I’ve got a militant lesbian cousin who is a hard left marxist yet calls herself a republican for effect only. She’s never voted for a republican in her life.


3 posted on 07/14/2014 8:59:04 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: ConservingFreedom

GOP RINO homos have the same agenda as DNC crazy lefty homos.


4 posted on 07/14/2014 9:00:57 AM PDT by Iron Munro (The Obamas Black skin has morphed into Teflon thanks to the Obama Media)
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To: SeekAndFind

The Republican left has gladly given up its faux resistance to sexual perversion and embraced the homosexual agenda. Their excitement is barely containable, and it won’t be surprising when the Republican left embraces the next logical steps, pedophilia, and polygamy. After all, the dirty little secret of homosexuality is that its root cause is pedophilia, and the big lie, “It’s in the genes,” can readily be used in support of polygamy.


5 posted on 07/14/2014 9:02:22 AM PDT by pallis
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To: SeekAndFind

Serious question: why don’t RINOs simply become Democrats? What keeps them from doing so? I don’t think I’ve ever heard an explanation for it, and I do not have one. Anyone?


6 posted on 07/14/2014 9:02:41 AM PDT by cdcdawg
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To: SeekAndFind

DemocRAT Lite.

Won’t work—People won’t vote for a RINO when they can have the real thing.


7 posted on 07/14/2014 9:03:17 AM PDT by Arm_Bears (Rope. Tree. Politician. Some assembly required.)
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To: cripplecreek

RE: Fully indoctrinated college republicans are driving it along with completely fake republicans who vote straight ticket democrat.

This is happening in churches too. The Gay Mafia is learning from the Alinsky and Marxist playbook — INFILTRATION.

For instance, the United Methodist Church, PCUSA and other big Protestant denominations still have many local churches whose pastors DO NOT SUPPORT gay marriage or the homosexual lifestyle. The gays would target these churches for infiltration, have sympathetic members join these churches and then slowly introduce resolutions in these local churches to slowly but surely “loosen” their moral restrictions.

Evil does not work in one big bang. it works slowly, but surely to influence you.


8 posted on 07/14/2014 9:07:00 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Party will be dead quicker than you can say ‘whig’.


9 posted on 07/14/2014 9:14:18 AM PDT by Viennacon (Rebuke the Repuke!)
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To: cdcdawg

“why don’t RINOs simply become Democrats?”

The soros cabal pays them handsomely to stay in the GOP to divide the GOP.


10 posted on 07/14/2014 9:14:31 AM PDT by Vision Thing (obama wants his suicidal worshipers to become suicidal bombers.)
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To: SeekAndFind
social conservatives are fighting a battle that puts them well out of step with the majority of the country

At one time "the majority of the country" (different country) thought the world was flat, too.

Screw'em. Right is right - and this ain't.

11 posted on 07/14/2014 9:21:48 AM PDT by grobdriver (Where is Wilson Blair when you need him?)
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To: SeekAndFind
"A group called Young Conservatives for the Freedom to Marry"

Huh? Might as well have a group called "Young Satanists for Christ", or "Young Pacifists for War". Homo marriage, homo adoption, homo rights, it makes no difference. Nothing about homosexuality is conservative. It is the polar opposite of conservatism. Get that through your heads, Pubbies!

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

12 posted on 07/14/2014 9:24:10 AM PDT by wku man (Veterans, it's up to us to save the Republic...let's roll.)
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To: Vision Thing
So why aren't Trump and the Koch brothers (or other conservatives with money) paying our out-of-work folks to troll Leftist organizations? Dammit, our side needs to wake the hell up and start fighting fire with fire, or we won't have a Republic to fight for in five years!

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

13 posted on 07/14/2014 9:26:50 AM PDT by wku man (Veterans, it's up to us to save the Republic...let's roll.)
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To: SeekAndFind
the momentum provided by courts nationwide

Says all one needs to know about the movement.

No longer a nation of laws, but a nation of lawyers.

Multiple votes where people have overwhelming said, "NO!" and the courts overthrow it on the whims of one black-robed dictator.

14 posted on 07/14/2014 9:28:03 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys-Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat-But they know what's best for you.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Romney Republican chickens coming home to roost.


15 posted on 07/14/2014 9:30:25 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: ConservingFreedom

The GOPe’s motto should be: “If you can’t beat ‘em, join ‘em.”


16 posted on 07/14/2014 9:30:54 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The cure has become worse than the disease. Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Posted May 12, 2014

Is same-sex marriage really a “right”? If so, by what standard is it a right? Who said and by what authority?

Posted May 13, 2014

What reasons, other than religious reasons, might someone want to keep marriage defined as only the union of one man and one woman?

Posted May 14, 2014

Anyone who opposes same-sex marriage is wrong, says the “gay mafia”—the term the liberal TV personality Bill Maher gave to homosexual activists who “whack” dissenters.


17 posted on 07/14/2014 9:31:23 AM PDT by Heartlander (We are all Rodeo Clowns now!)
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To: SeekAndFind

When RNC committeeman Dave Agema spoke out they tried to destroy him. They were mostly angry because he told the truth.

The GOP platform is a thin coat of paint to fool voters and the opposition to gay marriage is one the party has no intent of standing by.


18 posted on 07/14/2014 9:33:10 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: cdcdawg
Serious question: why don’t RINOs simply become Democrats? What keeps them from doing so? I don’t think I’ve ever heard an explanation for it, and I do not have one. Anyone?

It's all about having the majority in Congress. Then your seniority gives you the very best that tax dollars can buy. Seniority of the Majority gets the best offices, biggest staff, best perks, best insider trading info, sexist interns, most freebies from lobbyists, all the while claiming to be for the "little man."

19 posted on 07/14/2014 9:33:52 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys-Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat-But they know what's best for you.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“I would say in America’s suburbs this is quite often the No. 1 test for younger voters”

Then they deserve to be jobless. They deserve to be taxed to death. If this is how STUPID young people are, let them starve.


20 posted on 07/14/2014 9:37:53 AM PDT by Viennacon (Rebuke the Repuke!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Top U.S. Republicans call for Michigan GOP committeeman to resign (because he's a big meanie to turd burglars)

Dave Agema, citing 'liberal critics within the Republican Party,' skips RNC meeting

(RNC Committeeman) Dave Agema shows support for 'Duck Dynasty' star, calls out 'LGBT Gestapo'

CAIR: Michigan Governor Urged Not to Sign Anti-Islam Legislation (Agema sponsored legislation)

State Rep. Agema wants Michigan to require pledge, teaching of historical U.S. documents

People need to understand the importance of choosing their republican national committeemen. They are the policy making wing of the GOP.
21 posted on 07/14/2014 9:42:22 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The GOP-e has crossed over to the dark side. In a quest to hold onto ever diminishing government positions, they will abandon whatever principles they may have once had, solely to enrich themselves and their interests, and play the petty part of loyal opposition. There is only one political party in the United States now, just like any communist country has ever had: the government party.


22 posted on 07/14/2014 9:42:38 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I think this would hurt the GOP even more.


23 posted on 07/14/2014 9:44:13 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: cdcdawg

This is one of those issues which is a political looser for Republicans. It is politically wise to stay away from polarizing positions if you want to win elections. You don’t have to support something you believe is wrong and you don’t have to oppose it either - at least during an election. The way to improve any situation is to gain the power to influence that situation through legislation and court appointments and you can’t do that if you loose elections. Being rigid and self-righteous is a sure way to loose elections.


24 posted on 07/14/2014 9:45:13 AM PDT by Semper
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To: SeekAndFind

The GOP needs to get ahead of this bandwagon—maybe put it in the platform that ONLY gays can run for office or sit on the Supreme Court or something similar that would sound ultra-progressive. That’ll surely bring in the votes.


25 posted on 07/14/2014 9:51:54 AM PDT by madprof98
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To: Semper
It is politically wise to stay away from polarizing positions if you want to win elections.

And once people realize you don't stand for anything at all, they'll be energized to come out and vote for you. Good thinking.

26 posted on 07/14/2014 9:54:06 AM PDT by madprof98
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To: SeekAndFind
Inside the offices of Republican gay-rights groups

um, what?... nope

27 posted on 07/14/2014 9:55:34 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Vision Thing

At one time THEY were Demonrats- with Demonrat ideas-

After losing BIG TIME under CLintooon- the GOPe

gladly walked LITTERALLY Hundreds of these loooosers across the aisle - and “made them GOPe’s “

look it up -in my state- we got Norm Coleman- —
Now he was not an absolute Marxist, like Franken-
But he IS a DEMOCRAT! how about Schwarzenegger?
He is Married to the Kennedy clan!!- still calls himself
a repub.


28 posted on 07/14/2014 9:56:46 AM PDT by mj1234
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To: Blood of Tyrants
The GOPe’s motto should be: “If you can’t beat ‘em, join ‘em.”

The war has finally arrived at our doorstep. This issue, along with abortion, the Second Amendment, national defense, etc. are hills I will die on. If the Republican Party surrenders on these issues, I will find a new banner to fight under.

29 posted on 07/14/2014 9:58:24 AM PDT by Ronaldus Magnus
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To: cdcdawg

They want to capture both parties and shut down any real power of the dissenters.


30 posted on 07/14/2014 9:59:13 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: SeekAndFind

Rinos and Libertarians against conservatives.

RAND PAUL:
“”Evolve, adapt or die. That is the fate of our current Republican party. We must evolve as a party and find a way to attract millennials to the conservative movement or we will never succeed in realizing our ideals of individual freedom and freedom from government interference.””

“I think that the Republican Party, in order to get bigger, will have to agree to disagree on social issues,” Paul advised. “The Republican Party is not going to give up on having quite a few people who do believe in traditional marriage. But the Republican Party also has to find a place for young people and others who don’t want to be festooned by those issues.”


31 posted on 07/14/2014 9:59:53 AM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: Semper

That is ridiculous, how do we choose a presidential candidate for instance, if we don’t know his views on the homosexual agenda?


32 posted on 07/14/2014 10:02:35 AM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: Semper

every issue is polarized

You suggest a political party stand for nothing?

Cutting taxes - No position
Cutting spending -no position
Secure Borders - no position
Welfare reform - no position
Islamic terrorism - no position

I can see the voters lining up for that, not


33 posted on 07/14/2014 10:03:44 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Semper

“It is politically wise to stay away from polarizing positions if you want to win elections... The way to improve any situation is to gain the power to influence that situation through legislation and court appointments and you can’t do that if you loose elections.”

Then how do you know that you are electing an actual alternative?


34 posted on 07/14/2014 10:06:41 AM PDT by cdcdawg
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To: SeekAndFind

Setting aside the moral discussion, there’s a practical problem with this as well: Libs and Gay Rights groups have already said simply dropping opposition isn’t going to be enough. There was an article posted here a few months back (cant remember its title) to the extent that Libs are now looking to a broad unconditional surrender, not any sort of negotiated settlement.

Which is how they operate. They set a bar for something. Then, when theres a chance of us meeting the bar they raise it. Perhaps a better analogy would be Lucy and the football. As long as we’re playing their game on their field, they’re going to win. And win dirty. Because they can.


35 posted on 07/14/2014 10:09:56 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: madprof98
It is politically wise to stay away from polarizing positions if you want to win elections.

And once people realize you don't stand for anything at all, they'll be energized to come out and vote for you. Good thinking.

There are plenty of issues which are not socially polarizing: jobs, defense, scientific research, sound monetary policy, realistic legal immigration policy, etc.

Just because you don't want accommodate political opponents by fixating on socially divisive, politically loosing issues does not in any way mean you stand for nothing.

36 posted on 07/14/2014 10:24:13 AM PDT by Semper
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To: Semper

jobs

That is divisive. Democrats want higher taxes and harsher regulations and government jobs. Conservatives want the opposite.

defense. Are you kidding?

science research- As long as it’s manmade global warming and embryonic stem cells, the left wants it funded.

monetary policy- print dollars and stuff them in the stock market and pretend their is no inflation.

immigration policy - You haven’t been paying attention have you? You don’t think there is a divide there??


37 posted on 07/14/2014 10:28:02 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Semper

I think it does. It means you just put your finger in the air to decide which stand to take on questions that will impact society for generations to come. I have no use for people like that and will avoid voting for them. I’d rather stay home or skip the race, just as I did when the GOP ran Mitt Romney. I was not alone.


38 posted on 07/14/2014 10:28:13 AM PDT by madprof98
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To: cdcdawg
Then how do you know that you are electing an actual alternative?

You do your homework. What are this person's qualifications. What has this person achieved. What is this person's character. Is there anyone better qualified to do the job.

There were "conservatives" who did not support Gov. Romney because he was a Mormon (of course there were other reasons also) but there is no question that this country would have been much better off if he had won the last election.

39 posted on 07/14/2014 10:34:23 AM PDT by Semper
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To: Semper
There were "conservatives" who did not support Gov. Romney because he was a

LIBERAL

40 posted on 07/14/2014 10:35:23 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: SeekAndFind

This sounds like something being pushed by so-called ‘Reform Conservatism’, a product of the ‘Young Guns’ movement.

The discredited Eric Cantor, his chosen successor Kevin McCarthy and Paul Ryan are the hacks behind the YG movement.

Their “intellectuals” include:

Andrew Kelly, Adam White, Scott Winship, James Pethokoukis, Yuval Levin, Kate O’Beirne, W. Bradford Wilcox, Peter Wehner; seated, from left, Michael R. Strain, April Ponnuru and Ramesh Ponnuru.


41 posted on 07/14/2014 10:35:26 AM PDT by Pelham (California, what happens when you won't deport illegals)
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To: GeronL

Do you believe that a destructive Obama is better than a competent, successful (in business and state government), moral, Romney who was governor of a democrat state where he had to compromise to get anything done?


42 posted on 07/14/2014 11:01:50 AM PDT by Semper
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To: madprof98
One of the reasons that we became a great country is that our constitution requires the co-operation of those with differing interests and beliefs. If you have never held a belief which you believed was absolutely correct and later found that you were mistaken, you should be out walking on the waters and healing the multitudes.

The genius of our founding fathers was that they knew that ultimate solutions could not come from any one person or group of persons and good solutions come from hard work and co-operation from all involved. When you do it quickly and exclusively, you get obamacare, et al. And that comes out of loosing elections.

43 posted on 07/14/2014 11:05:24 AM PDT by Semper
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To: SeekAndFind

Again the devil took him up into a very high mountain, and shewed him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them. And said to him:

“All these will I give thee, if falling down thou wilt adore me.”

Then Jesus saith to him: “Begone, Satan: for it is written, The Lord thy God shalt thou adore, and him only shalt thou serve.”

Matthew 4:8-10


44 posted on 07/14/2014 11:06:36 AM PDT by Claud
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To: Semper
The genius of our founding fathers was that they knew that ultimate solutions could not come from any one person or group of persons . . .

You should go to work for the Republican National Committee - or, for that matter, the Democratic National Committee. But hurry before they require that all new hires pass some LGBT litmus test.

45 posted on 07/14/2014 11:15:42 AM PDT by madprof98
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To: cdcdawg
Re: “Why don’t RINOs simply become Democrats?”

That's a great question.

I think many of them are probably “single issue” Republicans: very assertive on defense and foreign policy, or tax and debt issues, or private sector business issues, or support for Israel.

But, even though most of their politics might be center-left, they know the Democrats completely reject the issue they care about most.

I think other RINO’s are probably turned off by the secular religious nature of Left wing politics, by the rigid discipline of the Democrat Party, and by the constant Left wing demand for public political display.

Mostly, though, I think RINO’s love holding elective office, but they completely lack the deeply felt political principles that have guided most of us here to Free Republic.

46 posted on 07/14/2014 11:48:58 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: Semper

There were also conservatives who did not support Governor Romney because he is not a conservative. He would have been a better manager than Obama, without question, but the general direction of ever-growing government would not have altered, unless he completely changed. He was the PERFECT establishment candidate in every conceivable way, and ran a technically sound campaign. He won independents handily. He lost the election.


47 posted on 07/14/2014 11:49:44 AM PDT by cdcdawg
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To: Semper

I don’t know how moral a person can be if they change their opinions and flip-flop on a whim.


48 posted on 07/14/2014 12:39:59 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: cdcdawg
He (Romney) would have been a better manager than Obama, without question, but the general direction of ever-growing government would not have altered,

Obama has hurt this country more than any other president in modern times. He has forced spending to a level beyond belief. He is on a path to substantially destroy our economy, our foreign policy and our military. He has spent the last 6 years forcing this country towards 3rd World status. He is the greatest resource of our enemies.

Romney was so successful in business that no one even tries to deny it. One reason for that is that he knows how to get very good people to work for him. (Something Obama certainly can't do.) Also, Romney obviously understands fiscal realities such as too much debt. He is a leader as well as a manager. He clearly loves this country and Obama does not. If we have a major disaster (economic melt-down; terrorist attack; natural), Romney could have handled it - Obama wants it and he will make it worse.

For me the biggest question is: Since it was obvious that only Obama or Romney could win the election, how could the country I love make such a poor and disastrous choice?

Because too many thought Romney was not conservative enough? Because too many wanted all or nothing? Because too many would not work hard and smart enough to change the minds of others?

Well, when this country suffers the consequences of Obama and the democrats, those "republicans" who helped by not supporting the best alternative can smugly say "I did not compromise because I believed I was right" - even though the result was far from being right.

49 posted on 07/14/2014 1:21:40 PM PDT by Semper
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To: GeronL
I don’t know how moral a person can be if they change their opinions and flip-flop on a whim.

You have bought the democrat and media propaganda. It is not possible to be as successful in business as Romney was and flip-flop on whims. When conditions change or when you actually learn from experience, a good manager changes appropriately. But more of his "changes" were not accurately represented. Of course our current president does not flip-flop on a massive scale?

50 posted on 07/14/2014 1:31:07 PM PDT by Semper
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