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Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas is a rising Republican power in House, as well as a whip
The Washington Post ^ | July 31, 2014 | Robert Costa

Posted on 08/01/2014 1:23:03 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

First-term senator wielding such influence in House is sign of ongoing tumult in Republican Party.

The beginning of the collapse of House Speaker John A. Boehner’s border bill came Wednesday evening, when Texas Sen. Ted Cruz gathered more than a dozen House Republicans at his office in the Dirksen building on Capitol Hill.

It was there, as Boehner (R-Ohio) held his own meetings on the other side of Constitution Avenue, that Cruz heard that the speaker didn’t have enough votes — and realized that if his House allies held firm, he could rupture the fragile coalition supporting the measure.

Around the room — amid the boxes of pizza and cans of Dr Pepper, a Texas favorite — were longtime Cruz confidants, such as Rep. Michele Bachmann (Minn.), and more recent ones, such as Reps. Todd Rokita (Ind.) and Marsha Blackburn (Tenn.).

For more than an hour, the 13 House members complained, often bitterly, about Boehner’s bill, several attendees said. The speaker, with his $659 million measure that would fund federal agencies and bolster security along the U.S.-Mexico border, was ignoring the real issue, they said....

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Issues; Parties; U.S. Congress; U.S. Senate
KEYWORDS: amnesty; boehner; immigration; tedcruz
Imagine what he'll do from the executive mansion.
1 posted on 08/01/2014 1:23:03 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Cruz and Jeff Sessions are the lions of the senate.


2 posted on 08/01/2014 1:34:32 PM PDT by Luke21
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

TC 4 Speaker.


3 posted on 08/01/2014 1:35:20 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2
TC 4 Speaker.

TC for President!
4 posted on 08/01/2014 1:39:26 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoConPubbie

TC could be Speaker sooner. Optus later.


5 posted on 08/01/2014 1:42:51 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

Optimus Cruz!


6 posted on 08/01/2014 1:44:45 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Cruz should not run for President. It’s unlikely he’ll win and he serves best in the Senate.

I’ll never vote for a Senator for President. Always look towards good Governors like Wis’s Scott Walker.


7 posted on 08/01/2014 1:55:44 PM PDT by Usagi_yo (I don't have a soul, I'm a soul that has a body. -- Unknown)
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To: Luke21

They are giants among midgets!

The GOP leadership are bought and paid for amnesty pimps.


8 posted on 08/01/2014 1:57:49 PM PDT by tennmountainman (True conservatives don't like being rained on by their own party!)
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To: Usagi_yo

Spot on. We need governors in 2016. No more Senators.


9 posted on 08/01/2014 1:58:55 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: GeronL

My smart phone isn,t.


10 posted on 08/01/2014 2:00:19 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The oompah-loompah is a drunken eunuch.


11 posted on 08/01/2014 2:06:22 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Power abhors a vacuum. If Senators Cruz, Lee, and Sessions are providing inspiring leadership in the House and Senate, that says a lot about the Speaker’s, House Majority Leader’s, and Senate Minority Leader’s leadership abilities. These guys couldn’t lead a horse to water.


12 posted on 08/01/2014 2:27:58 PM PDT by MasterGunner01
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To: Usagi_yo
I’ll never vote for a Senator for President. Always look towards good Governors like Wis’s Scott Walker.

Feh.

Then you'll get to set on the sidelines while Ted Cruz is sworn in.
13 posted on 08/01/2014 2:28:26 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: 1010RD

Spot on. We need governors in 2016. No more Senators.
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I’m with you on that but Ted Cruz might just be an exception. But in general we need to nominate strong conservatives with executive experience and governors are the best source of candidates with that resume.

Slightly off-topic: how about Trey Gowdy for Attorney General? That would be a hoot.


14 posted on 08/01/2014 2:30:33 PM PDT by InterceptPoint (Remember Mississippi)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I doubt that my congresscritter John Carter was with Cruz. Carter is a big disappointment and Boehner crony.


15 posted on 08/01/2014 2:32:44 PM PDT by lormand (Inside every liberal is a dung slinging monkey)
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To: SoConPubbie
I’ll never vote for a Senator for President.

Although I believe you mean it and will follow through on your promise, is it wise to make this statement at this early stage?
16 posted on 08/01/2014 2:49:54 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: lormand

Looks like the Bonehead crony’s got out numbered. And so was their weak bill.


17 posted on 08/01/2014 3:00:27 PM PDT by tennmountainman (True conservatives don't like being rained on by their own party!)
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To: Resettozero

Not me that posted that statement.

And it lacks a certain amount of common sense as well.


18 posted on 08/01/2014 3:05:22 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: 1010RD
We need governors in 2016

The only Governor who has done anything to stop the hordes from overwhelming the US is Rick Perry. And even he, although calling up the National Guard, isn't having them defend Texas.

NOT ONE of the govs stood up to Obama! They should be defending their states.

Especially reprehensible are Brewster and Martinez. They should've called up the NG when Perry did, since they have a border with Mexico.

It's time for governors to defy federal over-reach.

19 posted on 08/01/2014 3:08:43 PM PDT by grania
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To: Usagi_yo
I’ll never vote for a Senator for President. Always look towards good Governors like Wis’s Scott Walker.

So, if Walker is such a good leader, where has he been on this latest Border issue and Obama's attempts at Amnesty?
20 posted on 08/01/2014 3:15:07 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoConPubbie

He’s been Governing Wisconsin. Which quite frankly doesn’t have a lot of skin in the southern border game yet.


21 posted on 08/01/2014 3:26:23 PM PDT by Usagi_yo (I don't have a soul, I'm a soul that has a body. -- Unknown)
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To: Usagi_yo; SoConPubbie
With a sincere apology to SoConPubbie, this was meant for Usagi_yo only:

I’ll never vote for a Senator for President.

Although I believe you mean it and will follow through on your promise, is it wise to make this statement at this early stage?
22 posted on 08/01/2014 3:44:14 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Paladin2

TC for speaker

Gowdy for AG

Carson for health and human services

Ryan for Commerce

Cmon Fill in the Dream Team

Secretary of Labor

Secretary of Transportation

Secretary of Interior

Secretary of Agriculture

Secretary of Education

Secretary of Energy

Secretary of Housing and Urban Development

Secretary of Veterans Affairs
eliminate

Secretary of Commerce

Secretary of Defense

Secretary of Homeland Security

Secretary of State

UN Ambassador

Secretary of Treasury

Richard Maybury


23 posted on 08/01/2014 3:56:14 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: Usagi_yo
He’s been Governing Wisconsin. Which quite frankly doesn’t have a lot of skin in the southern border game yet.

B.S.!

It affects every state, and especially with this latest incursion and attempt at Amnesty by Obama.

Scott Walker supports mass immigration, probably including amnesty

As usual for those in the Koch family sphere, Wisconsin governor Scott Walker supports large-scale immigration. That is, a system where many more people could come here legally than do so currently.

Walker is also not a strong and vocal opponent of mass legalization (aka amnesty, aka a path to citizenship). Earlier this year he made a comment suggesting that he supports mass legalization, but now he's attempting to dance around that comment but without ruling out mass legalization. Walker clearly isn't an ideologue on immigration nor does he make it a priority. But, based on my long history of being right about who actually opposes mass legalization and who doesn't, all Walker is waiting for is the right set of circumstances to openly support mass legalization. Those circumstances might include things like a major donor wanting amnesty, or Walker thinking it would get him votes for his next election.

Walker supporters will no doubt disagree, so they're invited to get Walker to explicitly state that he will oppose any legalization plan for more than 100,000 illegal aliens. If he dodges that question, then no other answer is needed.

On July 2, 2013 Walker spoke to the Wausau Daily Herald editorial board [1] and was asked "The biggest split is about what to do about those 11 million, however many people it is. Can you envision a world where, with the right penalties and waiting periods and meet the requirements, where those people could get citizenship?"

Walker's response:

Sure. I think it makes sense. But, what I'm saying is [unintelligible] of fixing it. Because otherwise we do this kind of bandaid approach... the mere fact that [the federal government is] having that debate without having a discussion about why is the system itself, why aren't we fixing that just seems to be kind of the vacuum that decisions are made in at the federal level.

As can be seen on the video at [1], Walker's "Sure" wasn't just throat-clearing: he had no objection to giving citizenship to millions of illegal aliens. Imagine how someone who truly opposes amnesty would respond in such a case. Would they say, "sure"? Or, would they say "no way" and point out the problems inherent in such a legalization plan?

Earlier in the interview, Walker said this:

If people want to come here and work hard in America, I don't care if they come from Mexico, or Canada, or Ireland, or Germany or South Africa or anywhere else, I want them here. To me, if people want to come to live the American dream, if they want to work hard, self-determination and have their kids have a better life, that's what folks like my brothers-in-law who immigrated a generation ago from Mexico or people like my ancestors who came from places like Ireland and Germany and other parts of the world many generations ago. I mean, there's a similar pattern there people who risked a lot whether it was traveling across the ocean or across a national border... Not only do they have to fix things for people already here, find some way to deal with that, there's got to be a larger way to fix the system in the first place because if it wasn't so cumbersome, if there wasn't such a long wait if it wasn't so difficult to get in you wouldn't have the other problems that we have with people who don't have legal status here in the first place.

1. Walker is a typical fiscal conservative in that his only concern is economic: he's not concerned with the political and cultural impacts of immigration. What if, for example, immigration from one country gives that country political power inside the U.S. (see Mexican government)? Walker doesn't care.

2. Walker's idea that today's immigration is like yesteryear's is the immigration tradition fallacy, see the link.

3. Walker is using the system is broken canard.

4. The idea that more legal immigration would dry up illegal immigration is absurd. There's a huge supply of potential illegal aliens, and loosening our immigration laws even more would send a message to them that they should try to come here one way or another. Increasing legal immigration would increase the network effect, encouraging more people to come here one way or another. It would also give more power to the groups that currently support massive and/or illegal immigration.


24 posted on 08/01/2014 4:01:36 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: Usagi_yo

Ted Cruz is a superstar. An exceptional leader like him comes once in a lifetime if ever.

It wouldn’t matter if he was dog catcher in the Aleuts, he is destined to be America’s leader and nothing can change that.


25 posted on 08/01/2014 4:26:35 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Hostage

Senators that have been elected President

Sourced from Yahoo. — cut and pasted.

[Note some of the Senators where really crossovers. Governor than Senator or Senator then Governor Senator to VP or prominent Cabinet member. Plus you can scratch Monroe, Adams and Adams as they were special class of Senator. See end of post. It looks like plain old Senators getting elected are rare, and the only one I really know of really really sucks]

Monroe, John Quincy Adams, Jackson, Van Buren, William Harrison, Tyler, Pierce, Buchanan. Andrew Johnson, Benjamin Harrison, Harding, Truman, Kennedy, Lyndon Johnson and Nixon

Governors:
Thomas Jefferson, James Monroe
Martin Van Buren, Grover Cleveland, Theodore Roosevelt, Franklin Delano Roosevelt
James Polk, Andrew Johnson Rutherford B Hayes, William McKinley McKinley
Woodrow Wilson -
Calvin Coolidge
James Earl Carter
Ronald Wilson Reagan
William Jefferson Clinton
George Walker Bush

Two Territorial Governors later became President. They are:
Andrew Jackson
William Henry Harrison

Teekno answered 6 years ago

The last time a sitting Senator was elected President was 1960. Since 1964, every person elected President has been a sitting or former governor or VP.

Former VPs are popular too. Let’s go back to FDR and see the highest level of the president’s prior experience:

FDR - Governor
Truman - VP
Eisenhower - General
Kennedy - Senator
Johnson - VP
Nixon - VP
Ford - VP
Carter - Governor
Reagan - Governor
Bush Sr. - VP
Clinton - Governor
Bush Jr. - Governor


26 posted on 08/01/2014 4:52:37 PM PDT by Usagi_yo (I don't have a soul, I'm a soul that has a body. -- Unknown)
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To: InterceptPoint

My feeling about Cruz is that he makes an awesome Senator. There is a big difference between being an excellent legislator and an excellent executive. Totally different skill sets with some overlap, but running things is different than passing laws. So I’m happy to see him stay in the Senate as a firebrand for a long, long time.

Turn Trey Gowdy loose on the Executive Branch and you’d see a mass of prosecutions and convictions. Sadly, no potential POTUS can have that. I’d do it, but I’d be shocked that any President would want to let him run through and clean house. Every Gowdy video I can find, I watch. He is like a terrible sharp sword.


27 posted on 08/01/2014 4:56:26 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: grania

They each play it like they see it. I don’t know why they didn’t do that. It makes total sense.


28 posted on 08/01/2014 4:57:04 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Good for Ted and Jeff Sessions. That GOP bill was a POS loser.


29 posted on 08/01/2014 5:05:47 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: 1010RD
"He is like a terrible sharp sword."

Southern Samurai.

30 posted on 08/01/2014 5:24:30 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: SoConPubbie

Really, Guys, I am too busy to run for office. But don’t think I did not appreciate the offer!!

TC
i_be_tc


31 posted on 08/01/2014 6:52:42 PM PDT by I_be_tc
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To: Paladin2

Ted Cruz cannot be Speaker of the House because he is a Senator.


32 posted on 11/05/2014 5:37:57 PM PST by nanetteclaret (Unreconstructed "Elderly Kooky Type" Catholic Texan)
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To: nanetteclaret

Please check the Constitution::.........


33 posted on 11/05/2014 5:56:44 PM PST by Paladin2
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