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‘Return of freedom to this country’ will come in 2016, Cruz predicts
BizPac Review ^ | July 30, 2014 | Joe Saunders

Posted on 08/03/2014 1:17:06 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Blending a muscular foreign policy with a combative domestic agenda, Sen. Ted Cruz on Tuesday told young conservatives the end of the Obama era will mean a “return of freedom to this country.”

Speaking to the Young America’s Foundation in Washington, the Texas Republican reiterated his opposition to Obamacare, the Democrats’ disastrous health care reform law, and tried to channel President Ronald Reagan in urging a tougher American response to Russian machinations in Eastern Europe.

“Mr. Putin, give back Crimea,” Cruz said, echoing Reagan’s famous “tear down this wall” to the Soviets in Berlin in 1987, according to Business Insider. “Why is it so unimaginable for President Obama to utter those words?”

On Obamacare, Cruz made it clear that November’s elections – particularly Republican efforts to take control of the Senate – should be aimed at one goal.

“I think those elections should be about many, many things,” Cruz said. “But they should be about repealing every bloody word of Obamacare.”

It’s tough to overstate how much Cruz has invested in the fight against Obamacare. During the government shutdown in October, he became one of the most prominent public faces defending the shutdown to kill Obamacare. When the shutdown ended and the Obamacare rollout became a national embarrassment of ineptitude, Cruz was partially vindicated – but never got proper credit for it.

As a potential presidential candidate in 2016 and a prominent voice for Republicans regardless of whether he runs, Cruz commands attention whenever he speaks publicly. In Washington, D.C., with an audience of young conservatives, he commanded attention with one message Tuesday:

America’s miserably failed experiment with a man named Barack Obama – the first utterly disastrous president in American history — will be over in two years.

“Let me tell you something,” Cruz said, according to the Daily Caller. “2016 is going to be the second wave of the return of freedom to this country.”

Check out Cruz’s pitch on Obamacare’s repeal here.

(VIDEO-AT-LINK)


TOPICS: Texas; Issues; Parties; U.S. Senate
KEYWORDS: 2016; cruz; obamacare; tedcruz; texas

1 posted on 08/03/2014 1:17:06 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Americans fear and despise freedom.


2 posted on 08/03/2014 1:22:58 AM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (Peace On Earth! Purity of Essence! McCain/Ripper 2016)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What did he say about border crashers?


3 posted on 08/03/2014 1:30:42 AM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: Forgotten Amendments

even if we win all branches of elected federal government it would take decades to turn the ship around. The bureaucracy is infested with leftist activists from top to bottom. They will do everything they can to thwart, subvert, sabotage and slander the elected branches should the GOP win. For its part the GOP is unlikely to have the foresight or the will to deep clean the bureaucratic cesspool.


4 posted on 08/03/2014 1:30:54 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: dsc

Ted Cruz did say the border crisis and the lawless response to it by the White House is the defining issue of this election.


5 posted on 08/03/2014 1:31:51 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: GeronL

Basically. It would take a generation, assuming every America that voted wanted to turn it around.


6 posted on 08/03/2014 1:52:34 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Jonty30

Many are and many have been turned into “give me” zombies. Hard to take away free stuff


7 posted on 08/03/2014 2:59:03 AM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

True freedom will never be reclaimed until the power to mint and set the value of MONEY is returned to the congress not a private entity, the federal reserve.


8 posted on 08/03/2014 3:30:40 AM PDT by wheat_grinder
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Americans have proven the allure of free stuff is stronger than the appeal of freedom. With the right dose of propaganda and pretty imagery, Americans can be convinced of virtually anything.


9 posted on 08/03/2014 3:50:04 AM PDT by ScottinVA (If it doesn't include border security, it isn't "reform." It's called "amnesty.")
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To: Forgotten Amendments

When these guys talk about freedom, they mean the freedom to do what they tell you.


10 posted on 08/03/2014 4:51:17 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: Forgotten Amendments

Americans don’t only liberals progressives socialists and democrats do.


11 posted on 08/03/2014 7:03:20 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The following essay is reprinted with permission from a Bicentennial of the Constitution (1987) volume entitled, "Our Ageless Constitution."

Will The Great American Experiment Succeed?

Thomas Jefferson, in his First Inaugural Address, enumerated what he called 'the essential principles of our government ... which ought to shape its Administration.' He then stated:

"These principles form the bright constellation which has gone before us and guided our steps through an age of revolution and reformation. The wisdom of our sages and blood of our heroes have been devoted to their attainment. They should be the creed of our political faith, the text of civil instruction, the touchstone by which to try the services of those we trust; and should we wander from them in moments of error or of alarm, let us hasten to retrace our steps and to regain the road which alone leads to peace, liberty, and safety."

Background

When asked by a curious citizen after the adjournment of the Constitutional Convention what kind of government had been structured by the Founding Fathers, Benjamin Franklin is said to have answered: "...A REPUBLIC, IF YOU CAN KEEP IT."

The extensive Constitutional republic they envisioned, in reality, became a place of liberty and opportunity for countless millions of people from all over the world. Their ideas work­ed, because they were based on enduring principles which recognized human imperfection and the need to structure a limited government of laws, dependent upon the consent of a people who, themselves, understood the principles.

The Distinctiveness of the American Experiment as Laid Down by the Founding Fathers:

What Has Happened to the Philosophy and Principles Held by the Founding Fathers?

Have we kept faith with their ideas of republican (represen­tative) government and of the virtue which must underlie such an institution? As Andrew Jackson observed: "It is well known that there have always been those amongst us who wish to enlarge the powers of the general govern­ment...and...to overstep the boundaries marked out for it by the Constitution." Such is certainly true in 20th Century America! Not only do the various branches of government seek ways to expand their power by changing the Constitu­tion, but there are well - organized and heavily-funded organi­zations actively at work to make serious changes in the Founders' system.

Can America Lose Her Freedom?

An examination of the history of civilization reveals that nations have risen, and they have fallen. Governments have been formed, and they have been dissolved. People have become free, and they have fallen into slavery again. Toynbee observed that 19 of the world's 21 significant civilizations disappeared from the face of the earth - not from assault by outside forces, but from deterioration within the society.

Many would contend that America has departed from the intentions of its Founders in a number of significant ways. Others, whose judgments are less categorical, at least would acknowledge that there are valid reasons for such a judgment.

Some Major Departures From The Original Philosophy, Principles And Intent Of The Framers Of Our Constitution:

Through liberal judicial interpretations of the necessary and proper" and "general welfare" clauses, as well as the commerce clause, the national government has gained sufficient power to intrude into virtually all concerns and areas which were originally intended to be within the domain of the states (See: Part V, Federalism). What is more, the courts, through the process of 'selec­tive incorporation,' have used the Fourteenth Amend­ment to nationalize and apply the Bill of Rights to the statesVarious Amendments have also served to weaken the state governments, albeit indirectly. For instance: the Sixteenth Amendment, through its provision for federal income tax, has made the states, to a great extent, dependent on the national government. The Seventeenth Amendment, which changed the Framers' intent as to the manner in which the Senate would he determined, has served to reduce the influence and balance of state interests in the na­tional councils.

The Framers believed that it would be the Legislative branch, armed with the most important powers of govern­ment, which would pose the greatest danger to the separa­tion of powers. For this reason, they divided the legislature into two houses and strengthened the Executive and judiciary branches. Over time, however, the Congress has delegated much of its authority to the Executive branch or to independent regulatory bodies. On the other hand, the judiciary, which the Founders believed to be the weakest of the branches, has asserted the doctrine of judicial supremacy-that its interpretation of the Con­stitution is authoritative and binding on the other bran­ches (an idea clearly not held by Jefferson, Madison and others). In addition, the courts have in fact 'legislated' to bring about changes which they contend are mandated by their interpretation of the Constitution (See: Part V, Separation of Powers). These "positive resolutions" on the part of the courts are seen to run counter to the Founders' idea of representative (republican) government, because they represent a usurpation of the legislative function, and ignore the voice and consent of the people through their elected representatives. This bypasses the slow and deliberative amendment process provided by the Constitu­tion for making changes to that document.

Although the word "rights" remains an important part of the political and social vocabulary, the perception that individual rights are of divine origin has been largely excluded from public discourse. What was once the very cornerstone of the philosophy of freedom expounded by the Declaration of Independence-that a Creator endow­ed human beings with rights and the liberty to enjoy those rights - has virtually disappeared from the textbooks of the nation and from the public statements of many leaders. Indeed, rights are now thought of as man-made and emanating from government. As such, the concept of rights not only has been secularized but trivialized as well. After all, what is the authority for such rights? Any self-proclaimed entitlement to special treatment, privilege, status, or benefit conferred by government can, by inference, be withdrawn. Moreover, the modem no­tion of man-made rights does not embody the natural law injunction that the exercise of a right embodies a corresponding obligation to observe the rights of others, nor does it recognize the "laws of nature and of Nature's God" described by the Declaration of Independence.

In this connection, the rights specified in the Bill of Rights frequently have been interpreted in an arbitrary manner without regard to the tradition or values which they were designed to protect and preserve. For instance, the First Amendment's provision that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof" has been 'inter­preted' in a manner not in keeping with Jefferson's idea that the "liberty to worship our Creator" had been "pro­ved by our experience to be its [government's] best support." In this and other areas, rights are upheld quite apart from the Framers' concerns for civil or ordered liberty, or for the ends of government, especially those set forth in the Preamble. Alexandr Solzhenitsyn's scathing critique of Western moral values, and those which have gained currency in the United States in particular, drives this point home:

"Destructive and irresponsible freedom has been granted boundless space. Society appears to have little defense against the abyss of human decadence, such as, for example, misuse of liberty for moral violence against young people, motion pictures full of pornography, crime and horror."

Professor Lino Graglia, a harsh critic of the Supreme Court and its interpretation of the Bill of Rights, makes much the same point in another context:

"The Court has created for criminal defendants rights that do not exist under any other system of law-for example, the possibility of almost endless appeals with all costs paid by the state ­ and which have made the prosecution and conviction of criminals so complex and difficult as to make the at­tempt frequently seem not worthwhile...By undermining effective enforcement of the criminal law...the Court has diminished our liberty to walk the streets of our cities with a degree of security".

One of the primary concerns of the Founders was the establishment of a sound monetary system which would provide stability and would assure the citizens that govern­ment could not manipulate their currency and confiscate their earnings through inflation, a problem with all un­backed paper currencies of the past. By various legislative and judicial actions, United States citizens no longer possess a currency with its own intrinsic value. Unbridled government spending and debt plague the nation. Since the withdrawal of gold coins in 1933, the nation has experienced a cumulative inflation of over 821%.

"Liberty cannot be preserved without a general knowledge among the people..." said John Adams. And Thomas Jefferson declared: "Whenever the people are well-informed they can be trusted with their own govern­ment...The boys of the rising generation are to be the men of the next, and the sole guardians of the principles we deliver over to them."

Early generations of Americans were taught the prin ciples upon which their nation had developed its Con­stitution. The Founders believed that the real security for liberty would be a people who could understand those ideas which are necessary to preserve liberty and who could perceive approaching threats to their freedom. For that reason, a primary purpose of the schools was to teach boys and girls to read and write so that they could study the ideas of freedom. A popular textbook for children was entitled "Catechism on the Constitution." Written by Arthur J. Stansbury and published in 1828, it contained questions and answers on the principles of the American political system.

Tocqueville's Democracy In America , written in the 1830's, described America's aggressive process of univer­sal education on the Constitution and the political process:

"It cannot be doubted that in the United States the instruction of the people powerfully contributes to the support of the democratic republic; and such must always be the case, I believe, where the in ­struction which enlightens the understanding is not separated from the moral education ...." The American citizen, he said, "..will inform you what his rights are and by what means he exercises them .. In the United States, politics are the end and aim of education ... every citizen receives the elementary notions of human knowledge; he istaught, moreover, the doctrines and the evidences of his religion, the history of his country, and the leading features of its Constitution .... it is extremely rare to find a man imperfectly acquainted with all these things, and a person wholly ignorant of them is a sort of phenomenon.... It is difficult to imagine the incredible rapidity with which thought circulates in the midst of these deserts [wilderness]. I do not think that so much intellectual activity exists in the most enlightened and populous districts of France."

Research shows that, beginning in the early 1900's, the teaching of the philosophy undergirding the Constitu­tion and the principles incorporated in it began to be eliminated from the public schools of America. Conse­quently, several generations of Americans have not been taught the principles which would enable them to be guardians of their own liberty, and they have not been able to serve as "watchmen on the walls" who could recognize encroachments when they occurred. Even most of the law schools do not train the nation's law students in the philosophical foundations of the Constitution.

It must be remembered that the principles of the Con­stitution and the philosophy undergirding those principles represent:

If the people do not have an understanding of these basic things, then they will be incapable of preserving them.

Does The Constitution Provide The 
Means Of Recovering The Original Intent?

Without a doubt, those departures from the Framers' intent listed above, and others as well, result in serious questions about the ultimate success of their experiment. We should note, however, that the Framers built well, and the Constitution, despite the buffeting it has taken, is still extremely viable in one crucial respect: namely, the channels for restoration remain open. Nothing - not even Amendments - has altered the distribution of powers or the basic institutional relationships set forth by the Founders. This means, in effect, that the PEOPLE can operate through Congress to bring the system back into line. If the people, through knowledgeable, good judg­ment, select members of Congress who have the courage to act, the Founders' system can be restored.

A determined Congress, for instance, is more than a match for a judiciary bent upon advancing the doctrine of judicial supremacy and encroaching upon the Legislative prerogatives intended by the Founders. Such a Congress could, as it has done in the past, limit the appellate jurisdiction of the Court. The Senate could carefully screen presidential nominations to the federal courts, particularly the Supreme Court, and refuse to con, firm those who support judicial "activism." Or, at the ex­treme, Congress could impeach and remove those justices who, to use Alexander Hamilton's terminology, habitually exercise "will" (the intended prerogative of the Legislature), not "judgment," in interpreting the Constitu­tion. In sum, Congress is equipped with all the weapons to win any "shoot out" with the Court. In all likelihood, if history serves as any guide, the mere threat of their use would suffice to restore the proper relationships between the branches called for by the separation of powers principle.

Congress also possesses ample means to restore some semblance of balance with respect to state-national rela­tions. Much could be accomplished simply through legislation, or through a more discreet use of congressional powers to allow the states greater latitude. Congress could, probably through legislation (or amendment, if need be), assert the sole authority to enforce the "due process" and "equal protection' clauses of the Fourteenth Amendment through appropriate legislation, thereby depriving the courts of the means to impose their will upon the states. This corrective measure would, by itself, go a long way toward restoring vitality to the federal principle, while simultaneously putting the judiciary back into its proper constitutional place.

While the Constitution provides the means of restora­tion, clearly the process is a difficult one.

What Is Necessary To Bring About Such Restoration?

As demonstrated above, restoration of the Founders' formula for preserving liberty is, indeed, possible through the mechanisms provided by their Constitution. But what must take place in order for such restoration to occur?

THE PEOPLE MUST:

Will There Be Restoration?

For the first time in many years, there are encouraging signs that some important changes may be emerging. Although the teaching and study of the Founders' ideas had virtually disappeared from the curriculum of the schools for many decades and partially, as a result, from public discussion, there is renewed enthusiasm and interest in those ideas among a vital and committed segment of the population. Some signs of this renewed emphasis on the ideas of liberty are:

These and other signs are encouraging, but, at best, are just the beginning of a long journey to rediscover the greatness of our Constitutional philosophy and principles and to redirect efforts in their proper restoration.

Will The Experiment Succeed?

It was John Adams who said: "The foundation of every government is some principle or passion in the minds of the people."  Clearly, the Founders' passion was liberty, and in order to secure that liberty, they sought out and incor­porated into the United States Constitution those ideas and principles embodied in the Declaration of Independence.

The French historian, Guizot, once asked James Russell Lowell, "How long will the American republic endure?" Lowell replied: "As long as the IDEAS of the men who founded it continue dominant." Herein lies the answer to the question, "Will the Experiment Succeed?"

It can and will succeed IF the motivating "principle or passion in the minds of the people" is LIBERTY, and if that passion causes them to exert the determination and will to complete the needed restoration of the IDEAS upon which the great American experiment was based.
Our Ageless Constitution,W. David Stedman & La Vaughn G. Lewis, Editors (Asheboro, NC, W. David Stedman Associates, 1987) Part VII:  ISBN 0-937047-01-5

Sadly, since the Constitution's Bicentennial Year Celebration in 1987, American citizens have not been diligent in being what John F. Kennedy described as "watchmen on the walls of world freedom."

"Ideas have consequences." - Weaver

Note: For those who may be interested, excerpted closing paragraphs of Kennedy's speech to have been delivered in Dallas in November, 1963, as quoted above, are reproduced below:
"I have spoken of strength largely in terms of the deterrence and resistance of aggression and attack. But in today's world, freedom can be lost without a shot being fired, by ballots as well as bullets. The success of our leadership is dependent upon respect for our mission in the world as well as our missiles -- on a clearer recognition of the virtues of freedom as well as the evils of tyranny.

That is why our Information Agency has doubled the shortwave broadcasting powers of the Voice of America and increased the number of broadcasting hours by 30 percent, increased Spanish language broadcasting to Cuba and Latin America from 1 to 9 hours a day, increased seven-fold to more than 3.5 million copies the number of American books being translated and published for Latin American readers, and taken a host of other steps to carry our message of truth and freedom to all the far corners of the earth.

And that is also why we have regained the initiative in the exploration of outer space, making an annual effort greater than the combined total of all space activities undertaken during the fifties, launching more than 130 vehicles into earth orbit, putting into actual operation valuable weather and communications satellites, and making it clear to all that the United States of America has no intention of finishing second in space.

This effort is expensive -- but it pays its own way, for freedom and for America. For there is no longer any fear in the free world that a Communist lead in space will become a permanent assertion of supremacy and the basis for military superiority. There is no longer any doubt about the strength and skill of American science, American industry, American education, and the American free enterprise system. In short, our nation space effort represents a great gain in, and a great resource of, our national strength -- and both Texas and Texans are contributing greatly to this strength.

Finally, it should be clear by now that a nation can be no stronger abroad than she is at home. Only an America which practices what it preaches about equal rights and social justice will be respected by those whose choice affects our future. Only an America which has fully educated its citizens is fully capable of tackling the complex problems and perceiving the hidden dangers of the world in which we live. And only an America which is growing and prospering economically can sustain the worldwide defenses of freedom, while demonstrating to all concerned the opportunities of our system and society.

It is clear, therefore, that we are strengthening our security as well as our economy by our recent record increases in national income and output -- by surging ahead of most of Western Europe in the rate of business expansion and the margin of corporate profits, by maintaining a more stable level of prices than almost any of our overseas competitors, and by cutting personal and corporate income taxes by some $11 billion, as I have proposed, to assure this Nation of the longest and strongest expansion in our peacetime economic history.

This Nation's total output -which 3 years ago was at the $500 billion mark -- will soon pass $600 billion, for a record rise of over $100 billion in 3 years. For the first time in history we have 70 million men and women at work. For the first time in history average factory earnings have exceeded $100 a week. For the first time in history corporation profits after taxes -- which have risen 43 percent in less than 3 years -- have an annual level of $27.4 billion.

My friends and fellow citizens: I cite these facts and figures to make it clear that America today is stronger than ever before. Our adversaries have not abandoned their ambitions, our dangers have not diminished, our vigilance cannot be relaxed. But now we have the military, the scientific, and the economic strength to do whatever must be done for the preservation and promotion of freedom.

The strength will never be used in pursuit of aggressive ambitions -- it will always be used in pursuit of peace. It will never be used to promote provocations -- it will always be used to promote the peaceful settlement of disputes.

We, in this country, in this generation, are -- by destiny rather than by choice -- the watchmen on the walls of world freedom. We ask, therefore, that we may be worthy of our power and responsibility, that we may exercise our strength with wisdom and restraint, and that we may achieve in our time and for all time the ancient vision of "peace on earth, good will toward men." That must always be our goal, and the righteousness of our cause must always underlie our strength. For as was written long ago: "except the Lord keep the city, the watchmen waketh but in vain."


12 posted on 08/03/2014 8:10:49 AM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well I hope Ted is prepared to win the Whitehouse and then shut down the EPA, Dept of Educ, get rid of the TSA and pare the DHS back down to what its original charter was and that is a liason agency only. The IRS I don’t even know what to tell him and the BATFE has to go. Then and only then will there be any return to freedom.


13 posted on 08/03/2014 8:40:27 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: GeronL

If we elected someone who was an actual conservative who is as committed to freedom as Obama is to socialism it could be done. They would have to not care what was said and printed about them though and I don’t see that happening.
Look what little time it has taken Obama to do his dirty work. It could be reversed just as quickly with the right person.


14 posted on 08/03/2014 9:08:12 AM PDT by sheana
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To: GeronL

“Ted Cruz did say the border crisis and the lawless response to it by the White House is the defining issue of this election.”

Yes, but Republican legislators should be moving Heaven and Earth to get them out, get them out, get them out.


15 posted on 08/03/2014 9:46:19 AM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: sheana

“It could be reversed just as quickly with the right person.”

And that would be me. Vote for me.


16 posted on 08/03/2014 9:47:27 AM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: sheana
. It could be reversed just as quickly with the right person.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Obama is merely a symptom. Remember, please, that it was the **voters** who made Obama possible.

To get a nation of voters sufficiently brain dead to elect Obama it took **decades** of intensive K-12, college and university, and media indoctrination. That indoctrination won't be undone in one election.

It might take one to three generations to undo the damage **IF** conservatives will WAKE UP! They must work to shut down the government K-12 indoctrination camps, totally reform or replace the universities, and create their **own** media.

I don't see that happening. Few conservatives recognize that K-12 government schooling ( AKA single-payer schooling) is our nation's ( and freedom's) MOST SERIOUS THREAT!

Yeah! I am shouting, I am exasperated.

17 posted on 08/03/2014 9:53:59 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: wintertime

I said could.....not would.


18 posted on 08/03/2014 10:03:56 AM PDT by sheana
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To: sheana

Personally, I don’t think “could” is possible. Unless there is a fundamental change in the way we educate our nation’s youth and change in the media.

Without this fundamental change in the voters any glittering personality will mesmerize them.


19 posted on 08/03/2014 10:36:57 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: wintertime
Few conservatives recognize that K-12 government schooling ( AKA single-payer schooling) is our nation's ( and freedom's) MOST SERIOUS THREAT!

Very true! When Karl Marx promotes it, you know it sucks.

20 posted on 08/03/2014 10:41:41 AM PDT by Marathoner (What are we waiting for? Where are the Articles of Impeachment?)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
Thanks 2ndDivisionVet. BTW, people who post the idiotic negative BS about this country in these threads should be given a timeout. If an examination of their posting history shows a bunch more, they are trolls and should not be allowed back. Pinging this to all lists, first time I've pinged all lists in a while.
On Obamacare, Cruz made it clear that November’s elections – particularly Republican efforts to take control of the Senate – should be aimed at one goal. “I think those elections should be about many, many things,” Cruz said. “But they should be about repealing every bloody word of Obamacare.”

21 posted on 08/03/2014 12:45:16 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Thanks for the ping SC. We all snark about low-info voters, with the assumption they are all leftists.

Unfortunately, it is not always so. My wife is certainly no leftist, but spends too much time on social media and none on FR, so her viewpoint is far different than mine.

There is a challenge getting through to otherwise correct-thinking people without seemingly berating them. As is, they do not see the evil that the left has created as clearly as we do.

22 posted on 08/03/2014 2:26:02 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The survivors will be freer, I guess...


23 posted on 08/03/2014 6:28:48 PM PDT by null and void (If Bill Clinton was the first black president, why isn't Barack Obama the first woman president?)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
I hope Ted is prepared to win the Whitehouse and then shut down the EPA, Dept of Educ, get rid of the TSA and pare the DHS back down to what its original charter was and that is a liason agency only. The IRS I don’t even know what to tell him and the BATFE has to go. Then and only then will there be any return to freedom.

To make any difference we have to get rid of whole agencies. I haven't heard any politician speak on those terms. But just as you said, that is what its going to take. You list is a good start.

24 posted on 08/03/2014 7:30:20 PM PDT by marron
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To: SunkenCiv; 2ndDivisionVet

Thank you for the ping, SunkenCiv- & for your thread, 2ndDivisionVet.

I pray that Senator Cruz is correct & don’t doubt so much that he will be. I don’t personally believe that B0 was “elected” a second time- there are too many lit embers (not just smoke), nor am I so cynical that I believe that so many people are uninformed, misinformed, or apathetic.

I think that more people than we realize are shell-shocked- & getting worse every day.
We need to help people remember that we are not “powerless” & we *each* have to act or else our worse dreads will come true.
We really, really need to somehow secure our voting process as the #1 priority.
imho.


25 posted on 08/03/2014 10:35:39 PM PDT by KGeorge (Till we're together again, Gypsy girl. May 28, 1998- June 3, 2013)
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To: GeronL
even if we win all branches of elected federal government it would take decades to turn the ship around.

"we"??

That's how we got here, FRiend. The GOP hates freedom as much as the Dems do. 30 years ago, if you'd told me that the GOP would control all three branches of government 2001-2007, I'd have thought it would be the golden age of liberty!

We're doomed. If you're young and have kids ...get out while you can.

26 posted on 08/03/2014 10:36:21 PM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (Peace On Earth! Purity of Essence! McCain/Ripper 2016)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If Obomba is replaced by someone of the same political persuasion, someone who is elected to satisfy some yet unfilled diversity checkbox, freedom will be gone forever.

Even a President Cruz will have major difficulty making this prediction come true as the leftists have so thoroughly infiltrated all levels of government.

But I’m more than willing to give him the opportunity. I don’t see any other options.


27 posted on 08/04/2014 3:42:41 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: SunkenCiv

“Let me tell you something,” Cruz said, according to the Daily Caller. “2016 is going to be the second wave of the return of freedom to this country.”

(((
I pray he is right. Please, God.

Thanks for the ping, SC -— from one of those frequently guilty of negative postings.


28 posted on 08/04/2014 8:05:13 AM PDT by Bigg Red (31 May 2014: Obamugabe officially declares the USA a vanquished subject of the Global Caliphate.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Many of the negative posts are placed by Libertarian/Republicans. It is really tiresome.


29 posted on 08/04/2014 11:02:01 AM PDT by Eva
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To: GeronL

That is the reason that it is imperative that we shrink the bureaucracy. Reduce the size of every dept of government and close some departments altogether.


30 posted on 08/04/2014 4:57:21 PM PDT by Eva
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All

I for one am turning my plowshares back into swords & hardening & sharpening them, for the battle cry is starting to sound.....Can you hear it? The soundings of horns the beat of the drums, the call to arms in the distance & growing louder every day......

For I am the angry Veteran they fear. And my Brothers & sisters in arms are gathering...and it is gonna get real ugly real fast!!!


31 posted on 08/05/2014 9:45:44 AM PDT by TMSuchman (John 15;13 & Exodus 21:22-25 Pacem Bello Pastoribus Canes [shepard of peace,dogs of war])
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The Distinctiveness of the American Experiment as Laid Down by the Founding Fathers:

It acknowledged that individual rights are derived from a Creator.

It was based on enduring principles compatible with "the laws of nature and of nature's God."

The Law of Nations or the Principles of Natural Law (1758)

The Laws of Nature and of Nature's God: The True Foundation of American Law

The Biggest Cover-up in American History

32 posted on 08/06/2014 1:43:51 AM PDT by Godebert
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To: Bigg Red

2014 will see the beginning of it — having Zero at the helm, accusing everyone of being a hater (codeword for ‘racist’ — he lets his seconds and media shills hurl that one) in between golf games and trying to rule by fiat merely pisses people off even further. And that will definitely get worse as the hollow shell of Obamacare is shown (not surprisingly) to be a humbug job.


33 posted on 08/08/2014 5:42:10 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: doorgunner69

I had a tete a tete (sp?) with a family member over an article about one of the fake churches’ BDS b.s., which led to a head to head about the relative’s regurgitation of the PLO line. They got a verbal beheading. Like perhaps everyone, it seems like everyone in the family is an idiot from time to time. :’)


34 posted on 08/08/2014 5:46:24 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Eva

Very.


35 posted on 08/08/2014 5:46:41 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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