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Paging Doctor Carson: The rise of Ben Carson and the GOP’s fractured flock of 2016
The National Review ^ | August 8, 2014 | Myra Adams

Posted on 08/09/2014 4:01:10 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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Myra Adams is a media producer and political writer. She was on the 2004 Bush campaign’s creative team and the 2008 McCain campaign’s ad council. Her writing credits include PJ Media, the Daily Beast, RedState, and The Daily Caller.
1 posted on 08/09/2014 4:01:10 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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I’m hoping all will let candidates campaign this time and see what they have to say. So many in the past made up their minds before a candidate could get their first words out.

That is unless it’s Chris Cristie Rand Paul, or Jeb Bush. They’ve uttered quite enough words for the duration and the media has politely let us hear all of them for the past two years.


2 posted on 08/09/2014 4:04:33 PM PDT by Kenny (,)
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To: Kenny

When candidates change positions to run, yes we should take that into account


3 posted on 08/09/2014 4:13:01 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Having a hard time trusting Carson. Call it prejudice if you want but he’s black and in the past two elections blacks voted for Obama 95%. I find it hard to believe he was in the five percent.


4 posted on 08/09/2014 4:14:40 PM PDT by raybbr (Obamacare needs a death panel.)
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Dr. Carson is a great man. He’ll make a great Surgeon General in President Ted Cruz’s cabinet starting in January, 2017. OK, I’m jumping the gun. That’s what I hope happens. Dr. Carson is not presidential timber. I think he’s being pushed on us by the establishment just in case Christie and Jeb don’t make it.


5 posted on 08/09/2014 4:14:51 PM PDT by dowcaet
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I realize that Ben is a great surgeon and a self-made man, but maybe he should win a couple of elections and prove he knows how to govern before running for POTUS.

Just a thought.

6 posted on 08/09/2014 4:19:38 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The man who damns money obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it earned it." --Ayn Rand)
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To: GeronL
How is he on abortion, gun control, amnesty, socialized medicine, and big government?

That's all I need to know. If he's a lib, I don't want him.

/johnny

7 posted on 08/09/2014 4:20:24 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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That is unless it’s Chris Cristie, Rand Paul, or Jeb Bush. They’ve uttered quite enough words for the duration and the media has politely let us hear all of them for the past two years.

Let them ALL run, and split the RINO vote. Heck, let's invite Giuliani to pile in. Come back Rudi ... all is forgiven.
8 posted on 08/09/2014 4:20:31 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("If you're litigating against nuns, you've probably done something wrong."-Ted Cruz)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

please. no more rookies. that’s a big part of the problem now.


9 posted on 08/09/2014 4:20:40 PM PDT by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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No more politicians, that is the biggest problem. Maybe we need a fresh face that is not a politician- the modern version of the gentlemen farmers of long ago...

I don’t like Carson on 2nd Amendment or illegal immigration, but the fact that he is not a politician or is a rookie doesn’t bother me.


10 posted on 08/09/2014 4:30:10 PM PDT by Tammy8
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anyone that engages in politics is thereby a politician, and president is a political office.

those “gentlemen farmers” were also the propertied aristocracy of their time; which meant they were the smart guys of their era.


11 posted on 08/09/2014 4:33:28 PM PDT by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I may be wrong but the Democrat Party did not want Hillary before and I do not think they want her now. I expect them to do the same thing they did last time and run someone over the top of her.

All this- can they beat Hillary? is nonsense anyway, whoever runs as the R candidate has to first attract conservative voters otherwise they can’t beat anyone. Many conservative voters stayed home the last two elections so getting them out is a starting point.


12 posted on 08/09/2014 4:38:20 PM PDT by Tammy8
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Before there was any talk of Carson running, I had many people tell me: “After Barack Obama, I’ll never vote for a black man for President.”


13 posted on 08/09/2014 4:39:34 PM PDT by Din Maker (I've always been crazy, but, that's the only thing that has kept) me from going insane.)
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14 posted on 08/09/2014 4:40:50 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: raybbr

Black conservatives tend to be strong personalities and as hard as dragon’s teeth in their political views and dedication to principle. Ben Carson seems to be like that, so it is easy to imagine him voting against Obama.


15 posted on 08/09/2014 4:42:17 PM PDT by Rockingham
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To: JohnBrowdie

Well yes, they were the smart guys and that is what I meant. Carson is a smart guy. I wish he was better on issues important to me.

As to politicians we have too many that have not really accomplished anything else- nor did they shine that much in their other elected positions. Most now don’t want to be on record for much so they can run for higher office without their previous record biting them so they mostly place hold. We need someone tough enough to stand up to the Democrats and fight to take this country back, most politicians want to compromise and we have done too much of that.


16 posted on 08/09/2014 4:45:03 PM PDT by Tammy8
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s a long long time before we vote. I like J. sessions but I don’t even know if he’s going to get in it. But there are others I like, some I don’t. I can only vote in one primary and I’m not sure that’s going to happen the way things are and seem to be speeding up towards something big.


17 posted on 08/09/2014 4:53:48 PM PDT by reefdiver (The fool says there is no God. And the bigger fools sees direct evidence and rages against it.)
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To: Tammy8

it’s just unrealistic. every great president we have ever had was a politician. blaming everything on politicians is just incredibly simplistic, and, if I may say, missing the point.


18 posted on 08/09/2014 4:53:54 PM PDT by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: JohnBrowdie

Indeed. We generally get the politicians we deserve.


19 posted on 08/09/2014 5:01:20 PM PDT by untenured
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bingo. we picked ‘em. every one of them.


20 posted on 08/09/2014 5:03:35 PM PDT by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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