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A 2015 New Year’s Presidential Resolution: Hang together-or be hung out to dry, once again, in 2016
The Federalist ^ | December 29, 2014 | David Corbin and Matt Parks

Posted on 12/29/2014 3:53:57 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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1 posted on 12/29/2014 3:53:57 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If “hanging together” means holding my nose to vote for the least liberal candidate (You know, the guy with the “R” next to his name), then I’m proud to say I’ll hang separately. Unlike the vast majority of low info R voters, I love my Country far too much to vote for the lesser of evils any more. Plus, I take offense to being bent over by my supposed “friends”.


2 posted on 12/29/2014 3:57:13 PM PST by dware ("White Privilege" stems from one's ability to lace up work boots and read a work schedule)
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To: dware

Now read the article.


3 posted on 12/29/2014 4:02:14 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s a wordy, unfocused article based on a lot of hypotheticals. As far as I can tell, the author has their heart in the right place, but I found this hard to slog through. They should learn to just say what they want to say,


4 posted on 12/29/2014 4:06:25 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Democrats have a lynch mob mentality. They always have.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

I know at least one of the authors, and he’s got a PhD. I’m pretty sure that they don’t give you one of those if you can still get straight to the point. :-)


5 posted on 12/29/2014 4:11:16 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Insurgent” = Conservatives?

A highly negative connotation already in-use by the Oligarchy.

I certainly want nothing to do with the present GOP Ruling Class and will never vote for anyone in that Judenrat party ever again.

That being said - if people are thinking the election in 2016 is going to be anything but a corrupt fraud and a joke with no affect on stopping this tyranny - we are ignorant fools plagued with a fatal case of Normalcy Bias.


6 posted on 12/29/2014 4:14:32 PM PST by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: INVAR

Okay, then why are you here?


7 posted on 12/29/2014 4:16:33 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: EternalVigilance
I was a research librarian at a certain university in Cambridge, MA. It was commonly said amongst the staff that the undergraduates were very smart people -- they went to the best high schools in the country.
It was also commonly said that the grad students working on their masters degrees were pretty dense and difficult to work with. They just didn't seem to be able to think logically or do any problem solving.
And, finally, the PhD candidates -- we didn't want to talk to them, and they didn't want to talk to us. They seemed to have extraordinary trouble functioning in a world which they didn't understand and which seemed too difficult for them to understand.

But, when they had started their trek, so many years before, they had been high-functioning adults.

8 posted on 12/29/2014 4:21:29 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Democrats have a lynch mob mentality. They always have.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Yup.


9 posted on 12/29/2014 4:22:38 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If Bonehead and McDorkell are not hung out to dry (or better yet, just plain hung), the GOP is dead, dead dead.

Go through their pockets and lock for loose change.


10 posted on 12/29/2014 4:29:26 PM PST by Da Coyote
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Okay, then why are you here?

To Promote Conservatism and our Christian heritage, not Establishment party politics and to share my thoughts as a Watchman on the wall.

11 posted on 12/29/2014 4:30:14 PM PST by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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Oops, that’s “look for loose change”, one only has to lock their loose change (and everything else) when around liberals.

CW-II doesn’t sound so silly now, does it?


12 posted on 12/29/2014 4:30:45 PM PST by Da Coyote
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think he meant to say we need to pick a candidate and support a candidate.

We always have too many. They trash each other and we trash all of them in favor of the one we like.

Truth is, a person needs to be chosen asap because without money, a great machine, and ardent supporters, they haven’t a chance in hell.

That said, I don’t really believe much of this mess is going to get fixed by an election. We have gone way to far for a simple return. The forces are against us and will refuse to allow a win because their ugly future vision is within their grasp.


13 posted on 12/29/2014 4:43:57 PM PST by dforest
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To: dforest

True dat.


14 posted on 12/29/2014 4:47:24 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Democrats have a lynch mob mentality. They always have.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ditto that. Sheesh it is not that hard to understand this article!

He’s giving two scenarios in which one of “our guys” might have a chance to win and giving more detail on the second option.

It’s one that many of us have suggested over and over. We have debates between invited conservative candidates all through one summer, and then ALL conservatives agree to get behind the winner. (jeb, mitt, etc need not apply). So Cruz, Walker, etc would duke it out in an arena of our own choosing, not in debates sit up and established by the liberal media and the elite. OUR debates run OUR way. Conservatives decide which constitutional candidate wins our support and then we pull together and throw all our support to him.

It’s obvious some on the thread are not reading the article.


15 posted on 12/29/2014 4:48:48 PM PST by boxlunch
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To: dforest
That said, I don’t really believe much of this mess is going to get fixed by an election. We have gone way to far for a simple return. The forces are against us and will refuse to allow a win because their ugly future vision is within their grasp.

Worth repeating in bold italics.

16 posted on 12/29/2014 4:56:19 PM PST by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s an interesting approach.
Sort of set of primary contests for the primaries.

Another great suggestion would be to run the primaries in the order of their Republican percentage in the previous POTUS election. Instead of starting off with Democrat states like we do now which help guys like Romney build an early lead.


17 posted on 12/29/2014 4:56:28 PM PST by nascarnation (Impeach, Convict, Deport)
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To: INVAR

We have traveled this road to tyranny for a long time now and nothing ever changes except for the worse.

We have heard repeatedly that “we can’t do anything until after the next election” blah, blah, blah.

The next election happens and the cycle repeats itself. You would think by now with all that has been lost that we could actually see how ridiculous it all is.

Apparently not, or else we fear facing the truth. After all, there is always the next election and all will be well.

Kind of hard for me sometimes to work up any enthusiasm. it is like a mental treadmill.


18 posted on 12/29/2014 5:30:19 PM PST by dforest
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It’s called “Normalcy Bias” and most Americans have a fatal case they are unaware of.

God says His people would be destroyed for a lack of wisdom, (Hosea 4:6) because the people would only want to hear smooth and easy things instead of the hard truth (Isaiah 30:10).


19 posted on 12/29/2014 5:37:58 PM PST by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; dware
I read the article, or most of it. The author thinks there's a real chance if "we" all just band together, and nominate a real conservative this time in the Republican primaries, we can do it! Yeah, and I always wanted a pony, too. *sigh*

I hope the Republicans nominate a Ted Cruz limited government Christian conservative type. But I am NOT holding my breath.

The real question is, what is the smartest way to vote, the best way to help conservatives in Congress, in the 2016 presidential if it's another 2012 scenario of Dem vs Dem Lite?

20 posted on 12/29/2014 7:49:48 PM PST by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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