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Jeb Is a Joke in Romneyland
The Daily Beast ^ | January 14, 2015 | David Freedlander

Posted on 01/14/2015 11:53:08 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Not everyone thinks Jeb Bush is a strong presidential candidate, Republican donors say Mitt Romney is certain that ‘a Bush can’t beat a Clinton.’

When Jeb Bush jumped out early in announcing that he was putting together a presidential campaign, he was quickly anointed as the automatic front-runner. Donors were said to dash to their checkbooks to be the first to shower him with super PAC loot. Political operatives were polishing up their résumés in the hopes of being gifted with campaign jobs. The overstuffed GOP field was going to winnow in a hurry as would-be contenders decided the next two years would be better spent angling for Cabinet positions in an eventual Bush administration.

But if the rest of the GOP saw an 800-pound gorilla, one man who did not was Mitt Romney. According to a number of close Romney associates and people who have spoken to him over the last several months, Romney does not see a towering figure in the field but a deeply flawed candidate who would struggle in a race against Hillary Clinton.

In the summer and fall of last year, back when Bush or Romney candidacies seemed like far-fetched ideas, and the former Massachusetts governor was basking in his role as a major get on the GOP fundraising circuit, he would muse aloud about the makeup of the 2016 field. In private conversations, Romney would repeat what he had said publicly—that he wasn’t going to run for president. But privately, according to several Republican donors who had the conversation with him, Romney said he would only get in if at the end of the primary process, the party somehow did not settle on a nominee. But he knew that this was unlikely. “Someone is going to catch fire,” he told one donor.

And even though Jeb was not a candidate, Romney made clear that it would be foolish for the Republicans to run another Bush.

“A Bush can’t beat a Clinton,” another donor quotes the 2012 nominee as saying.

As the primary season heats up, this analysis has been echoed by others, who say that a Clinton-Bush matchup would boil down to a race between the peaceful, prosperous 1990s and the 2000s with its War on Terror and Great Recession—a comparison that the GOP wants to avoid.

But people inside Romney world see other flaws as well. They point out that Bush has not run a competitive race since 1998, when he was elected Florida governor, a lifetime ago in politics. They see someone who has problematic positions on education and immigration, probably the two most crucial issues to the Republican base. They see someone who does not seem to have the stomach for a nasty nationwide battle for the nomination, and a 2016 rollout that has been shaky at best, with its awkward cellphone videos and avoidance of the public and the press.

“They have not done a lot to flush out the details of his candidacy,” said Tom Rath, a senior adviser to Romney in both his 2008 and 2012 campaigns, speaking of Bush. “His time as governor was quite a while ago. A substantial number of Republicans have never heard him deliver a speech. Mitt is a proven commodity.”

This commodity, Rath pointed out, proved its value in the 2014 midterms, when Romney became one of the Republican Party’s most sought-after surrogates, stumping for winning candidates from Alaska to Florida.

“He worked hard for lots of people, from Senate candidates to sheriff candidates. Rank and file Republicans remember that kind of thing.”

Romney associates point to polls that show him running close to Clinton in a general election, and easily besting Bush in a primary.

“And it’s not name-recognition,” said one Romney ally. “Jeb’s name ID among Republicans is 100 percent. Republicans just prefer Romney.”

Romney allies say that the former governor does not have animosity toward Bush, but that as a former businessman, Methodical Mitt wouldn’t attempt a campaign if he did not think he had a good shot at the nomination, let alone the presidency.

“I don’t blame him. He came very close. He should have won last time. And he probably figures that whoever the Republican nominee is is going to be the next president,” said Ken Abramowitz, a GOP donor. “After eight years of President Obama, I don’t think the public is going to want another Democrat.”

Center-right Republicans now say that they are bracing for what should be an unprecedented campaign season. While in years past the business-backed GOP establishment has often coalesced around a single candidate while a battle royale ensues among the crop of grassroots conservatives battling over their share of the vote, this year it is the moderates who are bracing for internecine war. A Republican could conceivably win the nomination in 2016 by eking out a small percentage of the vote in a multi-candidate field.

“I have been telling everybody that we should all coalesce around one candidate,” said Fred Zeidman, a major GOP donor who backed Romney in 2012. “The only problem is they all think that they should be that candidate.”

In time, Republicans know they will have to decide among them, and in conversation many sound like they are weighing the pros and cons of each.

“I think that [Bush] is a solid candidate. He may not be as conservative as others but I feel he can work with folks across the aisle to get things accomplished,” said Glenn McCall, a Republican committeeman from South Carolina.

And as for Romney, “He campaigned really well the last cycle. And a lot of what he warned us about has come true over the last two or three years.”

And if Romney insiders think that Bush is a flawed candidate, there are certainly many Republicans who feel the same way about Romney. Losing twice and coming back to win is unprecedented in presidential politics, and even though Romney has basked in a glow of good feeling over the past two years, he still lost to an incumbent president that many Republicans thought was very beatable.

“Mitt has shown his colors,” said one major fundraiser to Romney’s 2012 effort. “And as a campaigner he is totally $#*+.”


TOPICS: Campaign News; Issues; Parties
KEYWORDS: 2016; bush; jebbush; romney; terrischaivo
Based on this nonsensical logic, former Governor Palin should be the nominee. She had more successful endorsements than Milt last year and has had much more electoral successes than both of these men, combined. Idiots.
1 posted on 01/14/2015 11:53:08 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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“Mitt has shown his colors,” said one major fundraiser to Romney’s 2012 effort. “And as a campaigner he is totally $#*+.”

That's Mitt all right, totally $#!+.

But I really do hope Mitt, JEB!, NJ Fats, RINO Rubio, Gomer, Goober and every other RINO all run and knock each other out.

2 posted on 01/15/2015 12:06:14 AM PST by Waryone
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Mitt is a proven commodity.

Horse manure is fairly cheap by the truckload, I hear.

3 posted on 01/15/2015 12:14:02 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2015/01/rupert-murdoch-weighs-in-on-calls-romney-a-terrible-201107.html

“Murdoch also hit Romney for winning the nomination “by destroying every other Republican with his own money” and for failing to deflect criticism that he was “super rich.”


4 posted on 01/15/2015 12:24:20 AM PST by make no mistake
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“‘a Bush can’t beat a Clinton.’”

And a romney was unable to beat an obama. So what chance does a romney have to beat a clinton?


5 posted on 01/15/2015 1:00:04 AM PST by lowbridge
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And Romney is a joke in Realityland


6 posted on 01/15/2015 1:01:42 AM PST by LegendHasIt
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Jeb was the first elected Republican governor of Florida to EVER win re-election.

He won in Florida, a battleground state.

Mitt won one term in the liberal state of Massachusetts.

I am not endorsing either one of them, but Jeb is not an unaccomplished man.


7 posted on 01/15/2015 2:20:43 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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If I had the Bush dynasty, money, connections and funders behind me, I’d be the next governor of California, New York or Washington State. As a certain female governor once said about his father “He was born on third base and thought he hit a triple.”


8 posted on 01/15/2015 2:29:58 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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RINO infighting.


9 posted on 01/15/2015 2:34:59 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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.”But people inside Romney world see other flaws as well. They point out that Bush has not run a competitive race since 1998, when he was elected Florida governor, a lifetime ago in politics. They see someone who has problematic positions on education and immigration, probably the two most crucial issues to the Republican base..”

Amazing that Romney can see Bush’s political disconnects when he could not see the huge problem his candidacy had dealing with the issues of Obamacare.


10 posted on 01/15/2015 3:55:56 AM PST by Tallguy
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It’s all a joke in my mind. No Jeb, No Mike, No Chris, No Mitt, No Paul, No vote.


11 posted on 01/15/2015 5:20:27 AM PST by VTenigma (The Democratic party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
a certain female governor once said about his father “He was born on third base and thought he hit a triple.”

She actually said that about Jeb's brother, George W43. She went on to be SOUNDLY defeated by him in the election.

12 posted on 01/15/2015 6:54:12 AM PST by norwaypinesavage (The Stone Age did not end because we ran out of stones)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They’re both a joke in Robin-land.


13 posted on 01/15/2015 7:18:48 AM PST by RobinOfKingston (Straight ahead, and don't bunch up.)
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Amazing that Romney can see Bush’s political disconnects when he could not see the huge problem his candidacy had dealing with the issues of Obamacare.
"Mitt Romney Credits Jonathan Gruber For "Econometric Model””

Romney has no chance fighting off an attack ad showing that

Jeb not only has amnesty but Rotten Core to defend. I dunno how to illustrate the Common Core issue for the lo-info voter as easily as Romney can be dispatched by reference to GruberCare.

14 posted on 01/15/2015 9:10:31 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion ("Liberalism” is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Both Jebbie and Mutt are jokes everywhere else.


15 posted on 01/15/2015 9:12:20 AM PST by Colonel_Flagg (You're either in or in the way.)
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To: norwaypinesavage

That’s not what her bio says.


16 posted on 01/15/2015 10:43:07 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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