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Trump GOP Candidacy Blows Up: Refuses to Rule Out Third Party Bid (Bushies "We've finally got him")
The Weekly Standard ^ | July 18, 2015 | Stephen F. Hayes

Posted on 07/18/2015 3:58:51 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Ames, Iowa - Donald Trump confirmed two things during a stop in this central Iowa town Saturday: He has no class and he may well run as an independent when he does not win the Republican nomination.

There had been considerable public evidence of both long before his appearance here today at the Family Leader Summit but Trump, who is leading several national polls of the Republican primary, erased any doubt with comments he made about Senator John McCain and a prospective independent bid.

Trump was answering questions from Republican pollster Frank Luntz on stage when he declared that John McCain, who spent six years as a POW in Vietnam, was not a war hero. Trump went on to express his preference for soldiers who weren’t captured, suggesting a belief that prisoners of war have some say in their captivity. Luntz had asked Trump about his reaction to McCain’s comment that Trump had stirred up the “crazies” with his candidacy. When Trump attacked McCain, Luntz asked if Trump was comfortable with that kind of criticism of a war hero.

“He’s not a war hero,” said Trump. “He was a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren’t captured.” The comments clearly shocked the crowd at the summit, some of whom reacted with boos and shouts of condemnation.

McCain was shot down flying combat missions in Vietnam on October 26, 1967. He was taken captivity with a broken right leg and fractures in both arms. He was beaten and tortured repeatedly, in part because his father commanded the U.S. Navy in the Pacific....

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TOPICS: Iowa; Campaign News; Issues; Parties
KEYWORDS: iowa; mccain; trump; vietnam
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To: InterceptPoint
No, Perot blew himself out of the race. When he first entered the race the polls basically showed each candidate with 1/3 of the vote. Perot chose to act like an idiot, pulling out of the campaign because Bush was supposedly going to ruin his daughter's wedding, and then came back into the campaign afterward but this whole nutty episode cost him most of his third of the supporters. Had he stayed the course, it is very likely he would have won the election, people liked his plain talk, they were just as tired of weasel words and mealy mouths as we are now. If Trump does decide to go third party, and he is serious about it, he will pull that disaffected third of the electorate (the USA party types, most of whom are still alive.) So then we will see a 3-way race, neck in neck. So then we will see a lot of republicans thinking twice about voting for Jeb who they really don't want, and the same for a lot democrats who don't really trust or like Hillary. My thought is, if Trump is serious about this, he will win. The democrats are just as afraid of Trump as the republicans are.
121 posted on 07/18/2015 5:23:44 PM PDT by erkelly
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To: InterceptPoint

I think Trump’s enough of a business man to know that it would be felony stupid to rule out a 3rd party run at this point. That doesn’t mean he would run. I think he does love the country.


122 posted on 07/18/2015 5:25:46 PM PDT by Kenny
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To: JohnBrowdie

>>>pro-abortion, pro-gun control, and pro-ACA<<<

Really. Don’t know about the Gay Marriage thing but it doesn’t matter, it is now considered a Civil Right and is settled Law according to the SCOTUS.

Do you know anyone who would try to rescind a Civil Right who isn’t a Communist Dictator or a Democrat President?

Abortion, he is Pro Life with exemptions for Rape and Incest. Hillary and every Democrat supports Abortion if the Fetus, AKA Baby still has one toe in the Womb. They are pro Infanticide but they call it caring about Women’s Health.
Maybe they think that all Abortions are only performed on Male Babies, right?

Outside of restricting Abortion to early Term Pregnancies, AKA Viability which the Courts still fight us on, it will NEVER be Outlawed in this Country.
Sorry to reveal the Truth, but that is the Country we now live in, no matter what anyone thinks.

Gun Control, really? He carries and he has said that Gun Control can easily turn into a Slippery Slope that violates the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.

ACA? Trump said he would get rid of Obamacare and replace it with a Market based approach that covered anyone that needed Healthcare in this Country. When he said that, the Threads exploded here calling it Socialism.

Well, if anyone here, and this is my THIRD time asking this, can tell me just ONE Entitlement that was rolled back by the Federal Government, I would like to know what it is.

I find it humorous that I have to explain things that are easily researched. Throwing out what you BELIEVE to be true instead of what IS true only spreads disinformation.

Here I am having to set the record straight and Trump isn’t even my Candidate. Ted Cruz is the Man and I hope he can gain enough traction to make it to the end.

Opinion devoid of Fact is a Liberal trait that I hope we can avoid when Posting on FR.


123 posted on 07/18/2015 5:30:02 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (I know I left my Tagline around here somewhere...)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Excellent question #1 that you have answered quite correctly yourself.


124 posted on 07/18/2015 5:30:40 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: skippyjonjones

How do you handicap a Hillary vs Jeb! race?
++++
I wish I knew.


125 posted on 07/18/2015 5:31:41 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

using Trump’s assclown logic, he also doesn’t like soldiers killed in action?


126 posted on 07/18/2015 5:33:06 PM PDT by GotMojo
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To: skippyjonjones

“How do you handicap a Hillary vs Jeb race?”

Jeb will run as Hillary’s VP to save the nation.

Which nation is the question.


127 posted on 07/18/2015 5:34:11 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.hich)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He was planning this the whole time to put his good friend Hillary in power.


128 posted on 07/18/2015 5:36:21 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Bushes didn’t get Trump, he screwed himself.

Here’s a question: “Where was Donald when the country needed us young guys in the 1960 and early ‘70’s ?”

Hint: Donald graduated High School in 1964 and College in 1968……..

He’s the very last person to be dumping on veterans whether he likes their politics or not.


129 posted on 07/18/2015 5:36:49 PM PDT by cookcounty ("I was a Democrat until I learned to count" --Maine Gov. Paul LePage)
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To: TomasUSMC
Finally, a correct opinion. Trump has to show he's a real man, a mensch, and to do that he has to climb down from what he said without appearing like he's intimidated by people who never gave two sh**s about ANY veteran.
130 posted on 07/18/2015 5:37:36 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.hich)
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To: Kickass Conservative
I find it humorous that I have to explain things that are easily researched. Throwing out what you BELIEVE to be true instead of what IS true only spreads disinformation.

Being the "Projectionist" doesn't mean they understand the "movie."

131 posted on 07/18/2015 5:42:10 PM PDT by papertyger (If the government doesn't obey the Constitution, what is treason?)
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To: cookcounty

Where was Dick Cheney? Where was Bill Clinton? Where was Bernie Sanders? Where was Joe Biden? Where was Barack Obama? Where was John Ellis Bush?


132 posted on 07/18/2015 5:43:54 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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To: dforest

I agree that McCain forfeited any title of being a Hero....He was a Traitor then and is one now.

Being captured does not make one a hero when they’re running their mouth ....then refuses to let the real story be unclassified and the ONLY one stopping it because he doesn’t want the truth to be known on just what he did.

Not to mention handing the Presidency over to Obama with a hand shake.

So Trump was really being kind by NOT telling all he knows.


133 posted on 07/18/2015 5:44:19 PM PDT by caww
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To: Kickass Conservative

http://www.investopedia.com/terms/m/mcca.asp

DEFINITION of ‘Medicare Catastrophic Coverage Act Of 1988 - MCCA’
A government bill designed to improve acute care benefits for the elderly and disabled, which was to be phased in from 1989 to 1993. The Medicare Catastrophic Coverage Act of 1988 was meant to expand Medicare benefits to include outpatient drugs and limit enrollees’ copayments for covered services. It was the first bill to significantly expand Medicare benefits since the program’s inception.

INVESTOPEDIA EXPLAINS ‘Medicare Catastrophic Coverage Act Of 1988 - MCCA’
A supplemental premium paid by all individuals eligible for Medicare Part A was to finance the expanded coverage because of high federal budget deficits at the time, and the supplemental premium was progressive so that it would not cause hardship for poor enrollees. These two characteristics represented a departure from previous methods of financing social insurance programs in the United States. Although the bill passed easily with great support just a year and a half later, the House and Senate repealed it in response to elderly peoples’ widespread misunderstanding and criticism of the bill.

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134 posted on 07/18/2015 5:46:19 PM PDT by Oklahoma
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

Interesting , and more accurate, post follows immediately after yours.


135 posted on 07/18/2015 5:57:31 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (The Great Wall of Trump ---- Coming soon.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"Where was Dick Cheney? Where was Bill Clinton? Where was Bernie Sanders? Where was Joe Biden? Where was Barack Obama? Where was John Ellis Bush?"

They weren't trashing veterans for their service. Go ahead, trash McCain for his politics, probably I'll help you. But trashing veterans is a horse of a very very different color.

My uncle was awarded the silver star and the Distinguished Service medal in WWII . Then he was captured. Trump doesn't like vets who got captured. Well, I don't like you Donald, neither does my family. Get lost. You're a fake anyway.

136 posted on 07/18/2015 6:01:24 PM PDT by cookcounty ("I was a Democrat until I learned to count" --Maine Gov. Paul LePage)
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To: Oklahoma

OK, you found one, well maybe not.

>>>A supplemental premium paid by all individuals eligible for Medicare Part A was to finance the expanded coverage because of high federal budget<<<

I didn’t realize that an Entitlement was something that the Beneficiaries actually PAID for. Then those same Beneficiaries demanded that it be repealed. Silly me.

Thanks for playing. I appreciate your trying to rise to the challenge my question raised.


137 posted on 07/18/2015 6:04:13 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (I know I left my Tagline around here somewhere...)
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To: Kickass Conservative

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entitlement

“An entitlement is a government program guaranteeing access to some benefit by members of a specific group and based on established rights or by legislation.[1][2] The term may also reflect a pejorative connotation, as in a “sense of entitlement”. A “right” is itself an entitlement associated with a moral or social principle, such that an “entitlement” is a provision made in accordance with a legal framework of a society. Typically, entitlements are based on concepts of principle (”rights”) which are themselves based in concepts of social equality or enfranchisement.”

In my view all programs associated with Medicare are Entitlements. Even though the Seniors were paying premiums for those benefits some were being subsidized by the higher premiums the wealthier were forced to pay by the progressive rates.


138 posted on 07/18/2015 6:17:48 PM PDT by Oklahoma
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is a non-factor. It is up to the GOPe to take him out and they will use whatever they can to defeat him and any other conservative. Take him out and then Cruz.

Pray America is waking


139 posted on 07/18/2015 6:18:18 PM PDT by bray (Cruz to the White House)
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To: Oklahoma

Yes, I understand your point.

In the context of my Post, it would be the end of the World if a Republican President tried to “take away” the Free Healthcare Coverage that people are now receiving under Obamacare. It would never, ever get out of Congress, period.

Trump is proposing Repeal and Replace, a position a whole bunch of Republicans were pushing when Obamacare was being implemented.


140 posted on 07/18/2015 6:21:42 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (I know I left my Tagline around here somewhere...)
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