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To: TChad

Here is a crucial point that many people don’t know or have forgotten. After Obama released the COLB, CNN announced that this was the only BC Obama could EVER produce, because after HI went digital all paper records were “discarded.”

This point is seminal because CNN didn’t make it up. They got it from HI officials. HI at that time had no LFBC for Obama [which Abercrombie confirmed] so they really, REALLY wanted the COLB to be the last word on the subject.

It was only after Trump got out his massive megaphone and started THRASHING Obama on the subject that the cut and paste Frankenstein BC appeared. Polls had reflected ever larger #s of people doubting Obama’s birth narrative, so something had to be done to stem the tide.

And no, CNN never explained how a piece of paper which had been “discarded” years before could suddenly reappear. The hyena press has only one mode: defend Obama.


44 posted on 07/24/2015 4:22:26 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter

The following is excerpts from a longer article. The full article is linked below:
Posted on: Tuesday, July 28, 2009— Honolulu Advertiser
Hawaii officials confirm Obama’s original birth certificate still exists
By Dan Nakaso, Advertiser Staff Writer

Hawai’i’s Health Department confirmed yesterday that it has President Obama’s original Aug. 4, 1961, birth certificate in storage, but the announcement is unlikely to satisfy conspiracy theorists who insist Obama was born in Kenya.

“We don’t destroy vital records,” Health Department spokeswoman Janice Okubo said. “That’s our whole job, to maintain and retain vital records.”

The Health Department’s director reiterated yesterday that she has seen Obama’s birth records.

“I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawai’i State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawai’i State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawai’i and is a natural-born American citizen,” Fukino said in a statement. “I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008, over eight months ago.”

Fukino tried on Oct. 31 to put an end to the belief among so-called “birthers” that Obama was not born in Honolulu’s Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital. The birthers insist that Obama was not born in the U.S. and is therefore ineligible to be president.

Despite Fukino’s statement yesterday — and several court rulings and statements by Hawai’i’s Republican governor, Linda Lingle, the issue continued to resonate from Capitol Hill to the blogosphere.

A congressional resolution introduced yesterday by Rep. Neil Abercrombie, D-Hawai’i, commemorating the 50th anniversary of Island statehood was temporarily postponed because birthers objected to a clause noting Obama was born in Hawai’i, said Dave Helfert, an Abercrombie spokesman.

The line “Whereas the 44th President of the United States, Barack Obama, was born in Hawaii on August 4, 1961;” appeared to be construed by birthers as a thinly veiled attempt to get Congress to affirm Obama’s U.S. citizenship, Helfert said.

As the issue came to a vote yesterday, Minnesota Republican Congresswoman Michele Bachmann rose to object, saying there was not a quorum present.

The House later voted unanimously 378-0 to approve the resolution. Bachmann voted in favor of the resolution.

ORIGINAL FORM EXISTS

Mainland media has also continued to focus attention on the birthers. CNN’s Lou Dobbs last week demanded Obama’s original birth certificate. That was followed by CNN/U.S. President Jon Klein telling staffers of “Lou Dobbs Tonight” that the issue is a “dead” story, according to a Los Angeles Times report.

In an e-mail, according to the Times, Klein wrote that CNN researchers had determined that Obama’s 1961 birth certificate no longer exists because Hawai’i officials had discarded paper documents in 2001 — a claim denied yesterday by Isle health officials.

In 2001, Hawai’i’s paper documents were reproduced in electronic format but “any paper data prior to that still exists,” Health Department spokeswoman Okubo said.

Okubo would not say where Obama’s original birth certificate is, but said “we have backups for all of our backups.”

“Our Certificate of Live Birth is the standard form, which was modeled after national standards that are acceptable by federal agencies and organizations,” Okubo said. “With that form, you can get your passport or your soccer registration or your driver’s license.”

One thing that remains unclear is whether Obama has a copy of the original 1961 Certificate of Live Birth, or if he would even be allowed to see it if he asked.

FORMAT CHANGED

The standard “Certification of Live Birth” that Hawai’i health officials now issue — and was posted on Obama’s campaign Web site — has

FIRST MENTION

In November 2008, The Advertiser reported that the first published mention of the future president appeared in a Sunday Advertiser birth announcement that ran on Aug. 13, 1961:

“Mr. and Mrs. Barack H. Obama, 6085 Kalanianaole Hwy., son, Aug. 4.”

The identical announcement ran the following day in the Honolulu Star-Bulletin.

Birthers wave off those birth announcements, saying that Obama family members 48 years ago could have phoned in false information to both newspapers.

Such vital statistics, however, were not sent to the newspapers by the general public but by the Health Department, which received the information directly from hospitals, Okubo said.

Birth announcements from the public ran elsewhere in both papers and usually included information such as the newborn’s name, weight and time of birth.

http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2009/Jul/28/ln/hawaii907280345.html


59 posted on 07/24/2015 2:20:12 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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To: Fantasywriter
CNN announced that this was the only BC Obama could EVER produce, because after HI went digital all paper records were “discarded.”

An official from the Hawaii Health Department quickly contradicted that:

"We don't destroy vital records," Health Department spokeswoman Janice Okubo said. "That's our whole job, to maintain and retain vital records."

http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2009/Jul/28/ln/hawaii907280345.html

And no, CNN never explained how a piece of paper which had been “discarded” years before could suddenly reappear.

We have always been at war with Eastasia. There have always been two birth certificates.

Here's something else the MSM never explained. If the released long form is legit, the most probable explanation for the Health Department's failure to release copies to the media is that Obama refused to consent. If that was the case, it would have put Health Department Director Chiyome Fukino in an impossible situation. It would have been illegal for her to release any of Obama's documents without his consent, and it would have been political dynamite for her to state that Obama had directly refused to provide that consent. That might explain her ridiculous press statement, in which she said that she had seen "the original vital records" without specifying which documents she had seen, and without explaining why she had not released them.

61 posted on 07/24/2015 8:34:08 PM PDT by TChad
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