The short form computer print out abstract has been and continues to be the official birth certificate of the state of Hawaii and it has been since 2001.
If the short form was not considered a primary document, no one born in Hawaii could use copies of that vital record to obtain a U.S. Passport.
On every certified short form it states: “This copy serves as prima facie evidence of the fact of birth in any court proceeding.”
The following is an article in the Honolulu Star-Advertiser in 2009:
The Honolulu Star Bulletin interviews Janice Okubo, Communications Director, Hawaii Department of Health
“Birth certificate styles adjust to fit times and regulations”
Question: What is the state’s policy for issuing a “Certification of Live Birth” versus a “Certificate of Live Birth”? My first, second and fourth children received certificates, but my third and fifth children received certifications. Why the difference?”
Answer: “The certificate contains more information, such as the name of hospital, certifier’s name and title; attendant’s name and title, etc. The certification has only the child’s name, date and time of birth, sex, city/island/county of birth, mother’s maiden name, mother’s race, father’s name and father’s race. Why doesn’t the state just issue certificates? When did it stop issuing certificates? Is it possible to obtain certificates for my third and fifth children?
Answer: No, you can’t obtain a “certificate of live birth” anymore.
The state Department of Health no longer issues copies of paper birth certificates as was done in the past, said spokeswoman Janice Okubo.
The department only issues “certifications” of live births, and that is the “official birth certificate” issued by the state of Hawaii, she said.
The reason for this is, as I had already guessed, the fact that Hawaii was one of the first states to move towards an electronic reporting system.
Okubo explained that the Health Department went paperless in 2001.
“At that time, all information for births from 1908 (on) was put into electronic files for consistent reporting,” she said.
Information about births is transferred electronically from hospitals to the department.
“The electronic record of the birth is what (the Health Department) now keeps on file in order to provide same-day certified copies at our help window for most requests,” Okubo said.
Asked for more information about the short-form versus long-form birth documents, Okubo said the Health Department “does not have a short-form or long-form certificate.”
“The birth certificate form has been modified over the years and decades to conform to national standards and models,” she said.
Okubo also emphasized the certification form “contains all the information needed by all federal government agencies for transactions requiring a birth certificate.”
She added that the U.S. Supreme Court has recognized the state’s current certification of live birth “as an official birth certificate meeting all federal and other requirements.”
The issue of what constitutes an official Hawaii birth certificate received national attention during last year’s presidential campaign. Those who doubted Barack Obama’s American citizenship called the copy of the Hawaii birth document posted on his campaign Web site a fake.
Asked about that document, Okubo said, “This is the same certified copy everyone receives when they request a birth certificate.”
When Mitt Romney released a copy of his birth certificate, it was a Michigan short form Certificate of Live Birth:
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Federal law: 42 CFR 435.407 - Types of acceptable documentary evidence of citizenship.
§ 435.407 Types of acceptable documentary evidence of citizenship.
For purposes of this section, the term “citizenship” includes status as a “national of the United States” as defined by section 101(a)(22) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1101(a)(22)) to include both citizens of the United States and non-citizen nationals of the United States.
(a) Primary evidence of citizenship and identity. The following evidence must be accepted as satisfactory documentary evidence of both identity and citizenship:
(1) A U.S. passport. The Department of State issues this. A U.S. passport does not have to be currently valid to be accepted as evidence of U.S. citizenship, as long as it was originally issued without limitation. Note: Spouses and children were sometimes included on one passport through 1980. U.S. passports issued after 1980 show only one person. Consequently, the citizenship and identity of the included person can be established when one of these passports is presented. Exception: Do not accept any passport as evidence of U.S. citizenship when it was issued with a limitation. However, such a passport may be used as proof of identity.
(2) A Certificate of Naturalization (DHS Forms N-550 or N-570.) Department of Homeland Security issues for naturalization.
(3) A Certificate of U.S. Citizenship (DHS Forms N-560 or N-561.) Department of Homeland Security issues certificates of citizenship to individuals who derive citizenship through a parent.
(4) A valid State-issued driver’s license, but only if the State issuing the license requires proof of U.S. citizenship before issuance of such license or obtains a social security number from the applicant and verifies before certification that such number is valid and assigned to the applicant who is a citizen. (This provision is not effective until such time as a State makes providing evidence of citizenship a condition of issuing a driver’s license and evidence that the license holder is a citizen is included on the license or in a system of records available to the Medicaid agency. The State must ensure that the process complies with this statutory provision in section 6036 of the Deficit Reduction Act of 2005. CMS will monitor compliance of States implementing this provision.).
(b) Secondary evidence of citizenship. If primary evidence from the list in paragraph (a) of this section is unavailable, an applicant or beneficiary should provide satisfactory documentary evidence of citizenship from the list specified in this section to establish citizenship and satisfactory documentary evidence from paragraph (e) of this section to establish identity, in accordance with the rules specified in this section.
(1) A U.S. public birth certificate showing birth in one of the 50 States, the District of Columbia, Puerto Rico (if born on or after January 13, 1941), Guam (on or after April 10, 1899), the Virgin Islands of the U.S. (on or after January 17, 1917), American Samoa, Swain’s Island, or the Northern Mariana Islands (after November 4, 1986 (NMI local time)). A State, at its option, may use a cross match with a State vital statistics agency to document a birth record. The birth record document may be issued by the State, Commonwealth, Territory, or local jurisdiction. It must have been recorded before the person was 5 years of age. A delayed birth record document that is recorded at or after 5 years of age is considered fourth level evidence of citizenship. (Note: If the document shows the individual was born in Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands of the U.S., or the Northern Mariana Islands before these areas became part of the U.S., the individual may be a collectively naturalized citizen. Collective naturalization occurred on certain dates listed for each of the territories.) The following will establish U.S. citizenship for collectively naturalized individuals:
[Excerpted] https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/42/435.407
No thanks for your time-wasting dissertation on whether or not Hawaii regards its short forms as generally valid. That has nothing to do with whether or not Obama's short form was the BEST AVAILABLE DOCUMENTATION of his Hawaiian birth. Just because the short form is adequate for most Hawaiian needs and for passports does not mean it is adequate to qualify a U.S. president to serve. The standard for the latter should be as stringent as possible: all available potentially pertinent documentation should be released. The long form contains information missing from short forms, such as the doctor's name, hospital name, and more details about the parents. Those details might have either increased or decreased the credibility of Obama's claim to have been born in Hawaii. Yet Obama didn't release his long form until 2011.
If the short form was not considered a primary document, no one born in Hawaii could use copies of that vital record to obtain a U.S. Passport.
Cute. The short form was a secondary document in that it was created from a more detailed primary document, the long form. The MSM could never quite grasp that if Obama's short form was valid, that meant that a long form had once existed, and probably still existed. If the short form was a forgery, probably no long form had ever existed. The issue was trivial to resolve -- if Obama had been interested in resolving it, instead of pursuing a political stunt.
Answer: No, you can’t obtain a “certificate of live birth” anymore.
You're not keeping up with your leftist talking points! That one was dropped when Obama DID obtain his long form in 2011. Policies intended to minimize work for Hawaii Health Department workers are set aside when a U.S. senator or president requests a little special service. If Obama did it in 2011, why couldn't he have done it in 2007?
When Mitt Romney released a copy of his birth certificate, it was a Michigan short form Certificate of Live Birth:
So what? There was absolutely no controversy about whether or not Mitt Romney was born a United States citizen. Both of his parents were U.S. citizens and he was born in Detroit. Had there been any controversy, I'm sure that Romney would have provided his long form immediately. Had he not done so, the MSM would have demanded it.
I expect you will respond to this with more copy and paste nonsense that ignores the substance of my posts. Don't bother.