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To: Fantasywriter
Thanks for your responses, and your kind words.

The troll's posts are not entirely without merit, in that they offer some insight into what passes for critical thought in the minds of leftists. Here's my paraphrase of one such "thought":

"Mitt Romney only produced a short form, so Obama's short form should have been good enough!"

No serious questions were raised about Romney's short form birth certificate, because it confirmed what was already widely known. Romney's parents were national figures long before he ran for president. His parents' personal histories, including the story of his birth, were in the public record.

Here's the important thing: Mitt Romney's parents were both fully-adult American citizens when he was born. EACH of Romney's parents was able to convey U.S. citizenship to Mitt, no matter where on earth he was born. That is, Mitt's mother could have conveyed her U.S. citizenship to Mitt even without an American father, and Mitt's father could have conveyed his U.S. citizenship without an American mother. Only one fully-adult American parent was needed to convey citizenship, and Mitt had two.

However, had the issue of his short-form vs. long-form birth certificate somehow been seriously raised, Romney would have resolved it in days. Not in four years, in DAYS. He would NEVER have permitted anything like the court-martial of Dr. Terry Lakin to occur so he could pursue a nasty partisan political stunt. He would NEVER have tolerated widespread doubts that he was qualified to serve. Mitt is a decent man.

Obama's circumstance was entirely different. Neither of Obama's parents could convey American citizenship to Obama, had he been born outside the U.S. Instead of having two citizenship-conveying parents, Obama had exactly zero. Obama's father was Kenyan, and Obama's mother at age 18 was one year too young to convey citizenship. (If anyone still wants confirmation of that last fact, read section "7 FAM 1133.2-2 Original Provisions and Amendments to Section 301" in this State Department document: http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/86757.pdf).

Had Obama been born outside the United States, he would not be an American citizen. That's why it was so critically important that he provide the best documentation available that he had indeed been born in the United States. Until 2011, he chose not to provide that documentation, so he could pursue a political stunt.

(I bet only about 5% of Americans know what I posted above, thanks to the successful information embargo on this subject by our vile leftist media.)

79 posted on 07/31/2015 11:55:41 PM PDT by TChad
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To: TChad

What a masterful reply. One of my greatest pleasures is to read a well stated, cohesive and compelling argument. This one covers every base.

One, there were no rational, serious questions about Romney. His life and citizenship were open books. [Nor had he claimed for 16 yrs to be born in Kenya, or written a ‘memoir’ packed with wholesale lies (though in Obama’s case, the author was Bill Ayers).

Two, if Obama was foreign born, he was disqualified.

Therefore, as you said, it would have been appropriate to release the LFBC ASAP, in order to lay the matter to rest.

You and I have but one minor disagreement. Namely, whereas you see a political stunt, I see a con artist who actually had no LFBC to release.

Two points. One, multiple eye witnesses described Obama’s original ‘birth revords’ as “handwritten.” We also see that both the birth announcements and the eventually released LFBC listed a false ‘home address’—i.e.: one at which SAD and the baby NEVER resided.

All this points to but one logical conclusion. Granny Dunham registered a HI birth for her foreign born grandson, and used her own addy in place of the nonexistent HI address for her daughter.

All of which means Obama had no LFBC to release, hence the COLB.

Here is the second reason I don’t believe the delay was a stunt. The obots will tell you the birther issue was good for Obama, but the polls consistently showed just the opposite. When little was said about Obama’s foreign birth, or when the leftist press had complete control of the spin, the issue was neutral.

However, when someone like Trump pounded Obama on the issue—i.e.: when it was presented in a serious way, Obama’s credibility took a major hit, and the percentage of people who believed Obama was foreign born rose steadily.

So in fact the issue was disastrous for Obama. That explains why the LFBC was so hastily slapped together, and reveals itself so obviously to be a cut and paste forgery. Obama was suffering in the polls to the extent that something had to be done, and quickly. We can all thank Trump for that.

Anyway that’s my take. Ymmd. In any event, thanks for the great input. I love reading your posts!


80 posted on 08/01/2015 3:16:56 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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