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Trump is in big trouble in Iowa
American Thinker ^ | December 19, 2015 | Ed Straker

Posted on 12/20/2015 12:03:21 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 2ndDivisionVet

As a Trump supporter I would like to see Ted win Iowa but I think after that Trump may run the table.


41 posted on 12/20/2015 6:03:03 AM PST by McGruff (The only poll I believe in in The North Pole)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; TigerClaws
Sweater Vest didn’t have $100 million dollars in the bank. Ted Cruz does.

And if half the folks who claim to back Cruz would donate $50 over the next few months, he would have enough to finish the campaign season...

Too many "like Trump" because they can hold off donating with a clear conscience and are always hoping for a win-win situation where they take no personal responsibility for supporting a true conservative.

Kind of pathetic when one thinks about it...

Now for a short public service announcement to all on FR:
We need to ensure we don't get another Obama-like America Hater as the next President.
The best way to ensure that is to actively support a candidate as the next President.
I prefer Cruz and my money goes to his campaign, hence the Cruz link. If you like someone else, donate to him/her (find your own link to do it) and if you use FR and don't donate, then please don't complain about the welfare leeches or those who have Obama Phones because, functionally, you are no different than any other FReeloader

PS - If you are one of those who cannot afford even a small donation to FR or a candidate, God Bless and happy FReeping!.....

GO CRUZ!! Keep it up Trump!!

Donate to FR

Donate to Cruz

Donate to FR

42 posted on 12/20/2015 6:08:21 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: catfish1957

Where’s Cruz’s Chutzpah? Why didn’t he run for senate majority leader instead of voting for McConnell every time? Why did Cruz cut a deal for TPP with McConnell? Is he a sucker? Or is he with McConnell and simply doing some Trey Gowdy kabuki theater? Cruz is a brilliant man, why would he trust McConnell in the first place?

I’m willing to ignore these things and vote for Cruz if he’s the last standing. I have also donated hundreds to him. I wish people were a little more forgiving with Trump.

Do you all think a progressive democrat would fund the NYC Vietnam memorial? http://www.vietnamveteransplaza.com/2011/10/2008-honoree-of-the-year-donald-trump/


43 posted on 12/20/2015 6:10:24 AM PST by bigtoona (Lose on amnesty, socialism cemented in place forever! Trump is the only hope.)
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To: Axeslinger

And you’re basing that surety on....what exactly? Wishing it so does not make it so. Take a day or two off from the trump koolaid, let your system purge that vile poison and maybe you’ll see things a tad more logically...and realistically.


How’s that glass house?


44 posted on 12/20/2015 6:17:29 AM PST by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man a subject")
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To: iowamark

That’s the remake they should make, not SWars or STrek.


45 posted on 12/20/2015 6:19:46 AM PST by Sirius Lee (Cruz or Lose 2016)
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To: bigtoona

Where’s Cruz’s Chutzpah? Why didn’t he run for senate majority leader instead of voting for McConnell every time? Why did Cruz cut a deal for TPP with McConnell? Is he a sucker? Or is he with McConnell and simply doing some Trey Gowdy kabuki theater? Cruz is a brilliant man, why would he trust McConnell in the first place?


Because he is a politician. Cruz is a great guy, great family man, outstanding hearing, etc.,etc., but at the end of the day he is nothing more than a politician that takes donations from people, groups and special interests and must assess the political winds as they blow. Talks a great game, debates beautifully, but he still is part of the DC cartel he so fondly speaks against.


46 posted on 12/20/2015 6:22:13 AM PST by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man a subject")
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To: bigtoona

Don’t ignore that at all. I don’t expect any politician to agree 100% with me or to do everything that I would have done. But given Cruz’ lifelong history of being a solid conservative I can, on balance, say that he will do what he says he’s going to do and will govern as a constitutional conservative.

Trump has been a lifelong progressive squish. Changing parties like most of us change underwear and openly advocating for a variety of progressive issues and politicians. With zero history of being guided by conservative principles, any support for him is based upon the person’s individual projection of what they WANT him to be and what he is merely SAYING now...because his history would dictate otherwise.

Now, like most trump supporters you’ll probably choose to attack me rather than substantively debate what I’ve said.


47 posted on 12/20/2015 6:31:47 AM PST by Axeslinger (Where has my country gone?)
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To: iowamark
Hey! Don't forget those sexy Moonbase girls!


48 posted on 12/20/2015 6:37:43 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: ripnbang

No koolaid...I can clearly see Cruz’ shortcomings. Don’t think he’s the second coming. But I can see that he operates from a life history of conservatism. My hatred of the GOPe will not drive me to strike out with a weapon that has for years and years supported my opponents. Donald trump has been a progressive statist for most of his life. At a minimum he has a life long history of demonstrating a poor comprehension of the limits of government constrained by our Constitution.

And I bet that you, too, will choose to attack me rather than debating the merits of the argument.


49 posted on 12/20/2015 6:39:18 AM PST by Axeslinger (Where has my country gone?)
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To: Axeslinger

Well, I don’t think Trump is a strong conservative, but “conservative enough” on some of the most important issues. If it takes a liberal to give us a sane illegal immigration policy, a coherent foreign policy, strengthen our armed forces, and other wins on important conservative issues, it is what it is. It’s more an indictment of the Republican party than anything else.

Conservatives who make the point that Trump isn’t a conservative come across to me as presupposing that the country is very hungry for a principled conservative. I don’t think they are. You would think that after seven years of Obama, the defects would be obvious and people would see it. But I honestly don’t think that the country is there.

I think they can be sold on curing some of the most glaring problems of the current status quo, but they don’t want to come along for everything else.

Maybe I’m wrong.


50 posted on 12/20/2015 6:43:29 AM PST by Ted Grant
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To: scooby321

Yes, it’s quite amazing. Everybody wants to win Iowa .. but it doesn’t seem to me that it’s all that much of a bellwether when it comes to actually winning the primary or the election.

This is mainly due to demographics of the State, but also to the method of selecting a nominee by “Caucus”, instead of an actual “go to the polls and vote” method.

To me, as a long-time voter; I’m not too concerned who wins Iowa.


51 posted on 12/20/2015 6:44:53 AM PST by CyberAnt ("The fields are white unto Harvest")
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To: Axeslinger
I can clearly see Cruz' shortcomings. Don't think he's the second coming.

It is a very common symptom among Freepers to be unable to hold in their heads the concept of, "________ is wrong on a couple of things, but on balance he is the best candidate and I support him."

Once these Freepers have decided on their candidate of choice, everything about that candidate becomes the epitome of righteous perfection, and no dissent is acceptable.

The FR Trump phenomenon is very similar to the Palin phenomenon in this regard, even to the comparisons to great figures of history and the hagiographic fan-created artworks.

It's much more obvious in Trump's case since his shortcomings are a couple of orders of magnitude greater than Palin's.

52 posted on 12/20/2015 6:53:38 AM PST by Eric Pode of Croydon (I wish someone would tell me what "diddy wah diddy" means....)
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To: Axeslinger

No, I will not attack your position as I fully understand yours and other’s hesitations for Trump and affinity for Cruz. I respectfully disagree and nothing either one of us will say will change our positions, more than likely. My comment about glass houses was directed to you because of your underlying hostility (it was not overt) towards those that choose to support DJT. Using terms as “koolaid” and the like, belies your desire “debate the merits of the argument”, but only signals intolerance to those that have a different opinion than yours. I see it repeatedly in threads supporting both Trump AND Cruz.


53 posted on 12/20/2015 6:57:02 AM PST by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man a subject")
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To: mac_truck

This doesn’t appear to include PAC money, which is not under control of the xandidate, but can play an important role.


54 posted on 12/20/2015 7:05:23 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You need a ground game to win, period. If you want to win the national polls before a primary, it’s a great strategy to get the cable networks to talk about you 24/7 and hold yuge rallies. But, if you don’t have a ground game and organization and you’re going to lose primaries.


55 posted on 12/20/2015 7:16:41 AM PST by erod (Chicago Conservative | Cruz or Lose!)
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To: Helicondelta

In the last 20 years, the caucuses have an okay record of selecting the eventual Republican nominee.

They failed in 2008, Bush ran unopposed in2004, they picked the eventual nominee in 2000 and 1996.

In 2012, I remember that the initial headlines proclaimed Romney the winner (who was the eventual nominee), and it wasn’t until days later that Santorum was proclaimed the winner, thus muting any potential bump from the caucuses. Practically speaking, 2012 was a tie, with a finish that was immediately too close to call.


56 posted on 12/20/2015 7:17:05 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The more interesting aspect of this article is the mention of Trump’s drop in one poll from the 30s to the 20s and Cruz surging to within reach in South Carolina. I’m going to try and find this poll, unless anyone can provide me with a link to ping to.


57 posted on 12/20/2015 7:19:29 AM PST by erod (Chicago Conservative | Cruz or Lose!)
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To: 21twelve

So do a lot of people. I’m getting tired of the Cruz fan club on here posting about how smart he is. Arrogance at its finest.


58 posted on 12/20/2015 7:24:56 AM PST by usafa92 (Conservative in Jersey)
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To: Lib-Lickers 2
He will get tens of millions, but he's struggling in Iowa?


59 posted on 12/20/2015 7:25:44 AM PST by erod (Chicago Conservative | Cruz or Lose!)
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To: usafa92

Like we haven’t heard the same (but wildly unsubstantiated) from thr trump camp?


60 posted on 12/20/2015 7:33:52 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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