Posted on 03/27/2016 6:09:15 PM PDT by Cruz_West_Paul2016
It would be interesting to see the outcome of both of these polls. Being both Cruz and Kasich can beat Hillary in the general, you would think that a Cruz/Kasich ticket would resemble a 1980 blow-out. But what about a Trump/Kasich ticket? What would be your assessment/predictions on that ticket. Imagine if credible pollsters did these polls and results saw a 55/45 landslide for the GOP? Then what would Hillary do?
My Rant: I think this is now ‘moot’. The Republican Party is done for for at least 4, and more likely - 8 years. Toast. DEAD.
I have seen too many Trump supporters be SO nasty (emulating Trump - and his vitriolic nastiness)...with lots of smears, innuendo and lies....that they will effectively create enough R’s and Conservative voters who will refuse to vote Trump - because they now believe that the party would gain more by loosing than having Trump win...and at some point, they no longer give a damn.
When I hear Trump say “Lying Ted” so often, based on flawed premises, and acting so childish, I am ready to join the “Never Trump” group - which will become legion.
I ask Trump supporters “which Trump are you supporting?...The one who claims he identifies as a Democrat, a very Pro-Choice person, a big government person....or his sudden conversion to Republican (but NOT Conservative) values??” Trump has been all over the map on what he believes and supports. Inconsistent.
And the Trump supporters accuse Cruz of many things - all based on distortions or out-right lies.....
So ....I too am ready to pack it in....at this point, the big burden is on Trump supporters to convince me to vote for that con man if he is at the top of the ticket - but I probably WON’T ....because he as acted so nasty and un-Presidential, and so unethical. And if this gives Clinton the White House...well - this nation deserves the leadership it gets, and if 8 years of Hillary destroys this country (and it probably will)...it is probably what this nation deserves. (Someone remarked: “Those whom God wishes to destroy, He first makes stupid.” Well, a nation that is ready to elect either a bombastic NY liberal con-man OR a progressive NY liberal female with hidden felonies...is well on the way to being stupid first, and destroyed later.)
Kasich is a democRat.
There, fixed it for you.
How about noone and Kasich?
I thought he was a Brit.
Cruz/Kasich might be a doable combo on 2nd ballot.
Prior to Kasich running for POTUS and not knowing when to shut up, he was a pretty good guy in the House and does seem to be a bit of a PitBull when he gets a bite going. Apparently he has gone a wee bit unconservative since being Governor, but not so much to keep him off a ticket.
One good thing about Kasich, he like Cruz, never got nasty or false during the campaign.
So the polling is wrong about Trump’s General Election against hiltery problem, but polls are right and followable whenever they show anything positive for Trump?
Polls are the establishment’s means by which they shape public opinion, it has nothing to do with actual facts, like the fact that over 56& of Texans did not vote for their Canadian Cruz Liner to be the Republican presidential nominee
No, it wouldn't.
Such polls are meaningless and uninformative. They really don't have anything accurate to say about a future which is 7 months off.
Everybody knows this, and that such polls are invariably used for propaganda purposes, in an attempt to manipulate public opinion, as opposed to measuring it.
How useful were such polls in 1980 when Ronald Reagan was being called a B-grade actor who made movies with chimpanzees, and was trailing Jimmy Carter by 25 points?
Should people have discounted Ronald Reagan at the time, believing he couildn't win?
IMHO, nobody should be making voting decisions based on such propaganda. Each individual should be searching their heart and voting their conscience.
The fact is, the ground can shift profoundly between the time such polls are taken and the actual election in question.
By the way, John Kasich was for NAFTA and GATT, voted for Bill Clinton's Tyrannical semi-auto ban, and supports amnesty for illegal aliens as well.
Kasich would likely be toxic regarding voter enthusiasm, and he doesn't belong on any GOP ticket, IMHO.
I'd be OK with Rand Paul or Allen West on the ticket, BTW. Both mean love their country dearly.
http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2016/03/26/george-soros-gives-john-kasich-700t-to-stay-in-race/
George Soros, personally and through surrogates, has donated over $700,000 to Kasichs campaign, including:
◾The Soros Fund Management as the 6th highest individual donor with $202,700.
◾The Duquesne Family Office as the 7th largest donor with $150,000.
◾Stanley Drukenmiller, who operates the Duquesne Family Office and who manages $2 billion of Soros hedge funds, donated $150,000 to Kasichs New Day for America Super PAC.
◾Scott Beset, who is employed by the Soros Fund Management and was Soros chief investment manager until late 2015, donated $200,000 to the same Kasich Super PAC.
Cruz's donor list is just as nefarious & there is a reason he could not even get 50% of the vote in his home state of Texas. American's are tired of globalists like Ted who voted to give Obama fast track on trade bills that are meant to do one thing, destroy American sovereignty.
Get the picture?
Kasich is a non starter RINO GOPe business as usual politician and utterly unacceptable.
We aren’t going down the Reagan/Bush ticket path again.
NO NEVER........
I think a Cruz/Fiorina ticket would be just the ticket.
Two articulate conservatives and a woman on the ticket.
Yeah ... here’s the picture:
2016 Republican presidential candidate and billionaire real estate investor Donald Trump borrowed money from progressive-leaning billionaire George Soros back in 2004 to build the Trump International Hotel and Tower in Chicago.
In October of 2004, Thomas A. Corfman wrote in The Chicago Tribune, Donald Trump has lined up three New York hedge funds, including money from billionaire George Soros, to invest $160 million in his Chicago skyscraper, a key piece in perhaps the largest construction financing in the citys history, according to real estate sources and public documents.
The $160 million investment is in the form of a mezzanine loan, a kind of second mortgage that typically charges a much higher interest rate than a first-mortgage construction loan.
Trump and Soros were also listed as co-defendants in a 2008 RICO lawsuit disputing the sale of a Manhattan General Motors building. A report on the case by Pensions and Investments listed Trump and Soros as investors in the property.
Birds of a feather.
Live by the polls, die by the polls.
We are talking public office, not private business. I have had to do business with many people whom I do not hold the same political position on, that is what businesses have to be successful. So your strawman argument is just that, as dead as a stawman and easily burnt up.
Very convenient way to excuse Trump for associating with Soros.
Since Trump has never been in government, of course he couldn’t have political association with Soros.
But it is revealing of his character. Yes, he associated with anyone, including the mob, to further his business concerns.
He also hired illegals to build his buildings and excused it by saying, well, I can’t get Americans to work for me, they want decent wages. By the way, he is still hiring illegals at his place in Florida as bus boys and waiters.
Do you seriously think he would be any more honorable in a government position than he was as a private person?
He would not. Character is character wherever you are.
Well, according to your standards then, when I booked loads over the past 35+ years, to the tune of tens of millions of dollars, and I didn't personally check their personal or political views, and because many of them are probably as liberal as Soros, then I am not a conservative? And Trump is not a conservative for the same reason?
It must be nice to be able to live in such a purist bubble that you never have to worry about ever having to exchange, borrow or lend money to someone who is not of the same personal or political views as yours. You are such a bubbled purist, you make sure every penny you have ever given or received could never be connected to someone who is not a purist like you.
People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones, starting with your purist, the natural born Canadian Cruz Liar.
Why get personal about it?
I’m not talking about only dealing with people of one’s own political view. That would be ridiculous.
I’m simply saying, don’t use Soros as a boogie man and then excuse Trump for dealing with him. He’s either evil or he isn’t.
Trump has shown he will do what it takes to further his business interests and that includes donating a lot of money to Hillary and saying she would make a good president.
I don’t think Hillary will make a good president but Donald may make her The President.
The remarks about my being a purist are ridiculous as are your ugly comments about Senator Ted Cruz, a NBA and our next president.
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and the State wherein they reside
Ted Cruz was not born in the United States because his parents did not reside in one of the 50 states of the United States, therefore, he was not subject to the political jurisdiction of the United States or any state therein at birth. According to the US Nationality Act at the time Ted Cruz was born and also when he came to the US at the age of 4, he entered the US as a non-quota immigrant. This is not conjecture, this is the fact of the written law, both the Constitution as well as the statutes governing A1,S8,C4.
So while you deal with your little make-believe world of myths and anointed politicians, I prefer to remain living in reality where upholding the rule of law will be a subject that I will have to answer to when I stand before Christ on judgment day. And as it is written in the New Testament, ignorance of the law is no longer an excuse that can be claimed when one says they are of Christ.
Since polls are worse than old fashioned BS, they mean less than nothing to me.
What a waste of time!
I’d rather see polls on Trump/whoever and Cruz/whoever against Clinton/Kasich. That’s the nightmare I’m fearing.
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