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HILLARY CLINTON VS. DONALD TRUMP POLLS: DESPITE NEW CONTROVERSY FROM TRUMP, CLINTON FAILS TO INCREAS
The Inquisitr News ^ | October 8, 2016 | Phillip Dengler

Posted on 10/08/2016 8:42:59 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: fieldmarshaldj

yeah, i know you’re WAY to far to be of any use in NYC :)

Hope the heat has let up now that it’s october.


41 posted on 10/09/2016 1:17:27 AM PDT by dp0622 (IThe only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: jazminerose
Current polls are mainly using the 2012 turnout model—way off.

That's what they said in 2012. But the 2012 turnout turned out to more resemble the 2008 turnout than the 2010 turnout.

Of course, in 2012, a wooden moron headed the ticket, and that's not the case in 2016. We'll see.

42 posted on 10/09/2016 1:21:43 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: dp0622

Daybreak poll narrowed a bit. He’s still up by 2.5%, but it’s a 7 day tracking poll


43 posted on 10/09/2016 2:09:26 AM PDT by NYC-RepublicanCT (Trump vs Media/Dems/Obamas/NeverTrumpers. Still winning!!!ans)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Absolute BS headline from an unreliable source...

The poll went through Oct 6th.. the tape came out Oct 7th... not one person was polled after the tape came out

I don't know how badly he will be affected, but how does the heading coincide with the story details??! It doesn't. again, BS

44 posted on 10/09/2016 2:14:57 AM PDT by NYC-RepublicanCT (Trump vs Media/Dems/Obamas/NeverTrumpers. Still winning!!!ans)
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To: fireman15
Eventually more voters will conclude that the new revelations found in Hillary’s paid speeches are more damaging than Trump’s goofy New Yorker locker room blather form Eleven years ago when he was a Democrat.

The only problem with that is the low information voters - independents and undecideds - get their info from the MSM and the MSM is doing everything they can to bury it.

45 posted on 10/09/2016 2:47:42 AM PDT by TheCipher (Suppose you were an idiot and suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself. Mark Twain)
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To: NYC-RepublicanCT

We gotta get out there and take down the MSM.

Get the message out that bill is a RAPIST.

100 top stories are trump.

wikileaks, nothing.

We can’t win this one sitting home.


46 posted on 10/09/2016 2:48:38 AM PDT by dp0622 (IThe only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: Right-wing Librarian

bttt


47 posted on 10/09/2016 3:18:57 AM PDT by petercooper (Make America Normal Again!)
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To: papertyger

A RNC operative who works with our group here in OH had a good observation about the Trump Tape. He felt it would not erode his core support, might hurt a little with independents but they like Hillary less, but the impact could be the Tape may energize her sleeping base and that, even a little, could be fatal


48 posted on 10/09/2016 3:20:43 AM PDT by Jimmy The Snake
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Kellyanne Conway must be pissed. No tweets since Friday.


49 posted on 10/09/2016 3:34:59 AM PDT by petercooper (Make America Normal Again!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Remember “compartmentalization?” The Democrat media assured us during Billy Jeff Clinton’s last term that there was absolutely nothing wrong with molesting the capitol interns as long as he was doing his job so well. His personal life was off limits.
So why do they think voters should get upset over nasty talk by Trump, during the time he was a Democrat? It’s what alpha-male Democrats do, and the Democrat media has supported this sin in the past.


50 posted on 10/09/2016 4:16:01 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: dp0622

Agreed


51 posted on 10/09/2016 4:38:00 AM PDT by NYC-RepublicanCT (Trump vs Media/Dems/Obamas/NeverTrumpers. Still winning!!!ans)
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To: Mad_as_heck

“Our media is, in its own way, hardly more free than in the USSR.”

Bingo!

“The media coverage is more hurtful to Trump than the actual tape.”

They did the same thing with the Khan nonsense. They kept repeating over and over and over: “Trump attacked and insulted a Gold Star family.” They rarely showed what he actually said, because it was so mild compared their overblown, grossly exaggerated rhetoric about it.


52 posted on 10/09/2016 5:10:36 AM PDT by FenwickBabbitt
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To: Right-wing Librarian

‘the real meaning of the polls was that Trump was actually ahead by about 27 points”

I find this “27 points” very believable, simply because Trump has blow out crowds at his events and Hitlery has few. There are other indicators out there too.

This latest 11 yo attack against Trump will be forgotten by election time. The Uniparty will likely come up with worse stuff, but that absolute worst of Trump is choir boy stuff compared to Hitlery’s deeds.

This latest attempt is probably to dump Trump so they can stick Jeb in there.


53 posted on 10/09/2016 6:03:47 AM PDT by redfreedom
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To: redfreedom
I find this “27 points” very believable, simply because Trump has blow out crowds at his events and Hitlery has few.

I agree that Trump is probably under-polled but I don't think crowd size at rallies is dispositive evidence of broad-based strength. People who are motivated to attend rallies are the true believers anyway, basically preaching to the choir, or having an evangelist speak to a church congregation. Great for whipping up enthusiasm among the already converted.

Trump probably has more support than the polls indicate because those who support him generally do not answer survey calls, or are deliberately tossed out of the totals if they do. Many do not voice their support for fear of retaliation. I don't want to deal with vandalism of my property, and I know of many others who likewise fear the violence inherent in leftist beliefs.

54 posted on 10/09/2016 6:17:15 AM PDT by chimera
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To: chimera

“Trump probably has more support than the polls indicate because those who support him generally do not answer survey calls, or are deliberately tossed out of the totals if they do. Many do not voice their support for fear of retaliation. I don’t want to deal with vandalism of my property, and I know of many others who likewise fear the violence inherent in leftist beliefs. “

Much, much truth to that statement. Generally speaking, conservative types are quite reserved in speaking their opinions as well as having their opinions well thought out. Whereas libs tend to believe their masters and are very boisterous in expressing their opinions, to the point of taking physical actions against those of opposing views.


55 posted on 10/09/2016 7:36:05 AM PDT by redfreedom
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To: redfreedom

I believe you are correct, redfreedom, thanks.


56 posted on 10/09/2016 9:07:52 AM PDT by Right-wing Librarian
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To: TheCipher
The only problem with that is the low information voters - independents and undecideds - get their info from the MSM and the MSM is doing everything they can to bury it.

I understand your concern. But do you not realize that the media has already been breathlessly trying to destroy Trump's image for months and months with all manor of nearly identical tactics. In addition he has already been hit with over half a billion dollars in negative ads. Why do you think more of the same is going to be effective this time around? That is the definition of insanity. This type of thing has already been shown not to work against Trump.

Trump has acknowledged, apologized and promised to do better in the future. The only thing different this time around is that the Never Trumpers have just joined in and unloaded everything that they have. But this will still blow over like every other nasty attack tried earlier in the race. This nothing burger will not change the perception people have about Trump.

Hillary will continue to lie about the truly damaging revelations that keep coming up about her. So these things will continue to fester and cause people to reconsider their support, especially with “independents and undecided”. Hillary's numbers might spike fro a few days, but they are going to continue to deteriorate. If this is the best that those who want to take Trump has... they unloaded to early.

It will most likely be found that this attack came directly our own side... the Bushes, Romney, Ryan, McCain, and the Never Trumpers are traitors who are trying to hold onto their piece of the pie no matter what it costs the country. In other places and other times they would all be lined up against the wall this morning and shot. This is not going to happen here, but politically they have all consigned themselves to the trash bin of history. We are witnessing the implosion of the old guard of the Republican Party. We do not have to play by their rules any more, where people on our side have to be saints and the people winning on the other side can be absolute scum like Bill and Hillary. It is refreshing isn't it?

57 posted on 10/09/2016 9:17:05 AM PDT by fireman15 (The USA will be toast if the Democrats are able to take the Presidency in 2016)
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To: NYC-RepublicanCT

We’re all out of corn flakes. F U.


58 posted on 10/09/2016 12:08:14 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

Nice.. you can’t disputes the facts so you get childish


59 posted on 10/09/2016 12:10:05 PM PDT by NYC-RepublicanCT (Trump vs Media/Dems/Obamas/NeverTrumpers. Still winning!!!ans)
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To: NYC-RepublicanCT
Not childish at all.

Read the rest of FR; read the other conservative-friendly sites.

NOBODY is buying the coordinated hit by the DNC and the GOP-e.

Ryan got hooted off the stage and Drudge posted a picture of him looking like he was sucking a d*ck.

Clinont's real rape victims are coming out of the closet, in public.

Most people never heard of any of them.

Until now.

60 posted on 10/09/2016 12:14:20 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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