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Dem Senate operative: The big Supreme Court fight will be over the next nominee, not Gorsuch (Cruz?)
Hot Air ^ | February 3, 2017 | Allahpundit

Posted on 02/03/2017 7:40:01 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

A quote that caught my eye from RCP’s analysis of the inevitable confirmation of Neil Gorsuch.

The potential political downside could be much greater for the Democratic Party with Gorsuch than it ultimately was for the GOP with Garland — leaving reason to doubt that Democrats would fully obstruct the nominee rather than seek a more favorable fight elsewhere.

“I think it’s likely he’ll be confirmed,” said one Democratic Senate campaign operative, “and there will be a larger fight on the next one.”

His credentials are impeccable and his character, by seemingly all accounts, is perfectly suited to the job. He’s Scalia without the fondness for throwing elbows. “I have seen him up close and in action, both in court and on the Federal Appellate Rules Committee (where both of us serve),” wrote one legal luminary in the Times this week. “[H]e brings a sense of fairness and decency to the job, and a temperament that suits the nation’s highest court.” Which conservative penned those glowing words? It was … Neal Katyal, former solicitor general for the Obama administration. If Obam-ites are ready to high-five Trump over this guy, there’s no earthly way red-state Democrats are going to sell the public on the idea that he’s some threat to the nation who must be blocked at all costs. The best they can do is concede that Gorsuch belongs on the Court before quickly adding that Merrick Garland does too, and therefore they feel compelled to block anyone Trump nominates unless it’s Garland. “I understand,” Mitch McConnell will say solemnly, before pressing the nuclear button, and the entire caucus will back him. Result: Gorsuch is on the Court, the filibuster is gone, and Trump now has a very wide berth in filling his second vacancy.

Or does he? Jim Newell makes a good point about the fight to come over the next nomination. Sure, Gorsuch might be allowed through because he’s preternaturally qualified and hard to dislike, but what about, say … Ted Cruz as nominee? Is it really the case that every Republican in the Senate is prepared to nuke the filibuster for anyone Trump nominates?

Don’t be 100 percent certain that the Supreme Court filibuster is already effectively dead and just waiting for someone to kill it. Sure, if Democrats “played nice” with Gorsuch—which doesn’t mean they’d take him out to the strip club to celebrate the dawn of his 40-year reign, just that they’d eventually supply the eight votes he’d need to break a filibuster—Republicans could still nuke it the next time to make way for Justice Cruz. The appetite for such an aggressive power play isn’t consistent throughout the Republican caucus, though.

If Trump were to nominate a Justice Cruz, or whoever else might seriously shift the balance of the court the next time, Democratic deployment of the filibuster would be more widely perceived as reasonable: an extraordinary response to an extraordinary action. That would increase the cost of nuking it. As we’ve seen this week, Republican senators such as Lisa Murkowski or Susan Collins are responsive to this cost if vocal constituents lay it squarely before them. All Democratic tactics over the next four years should be about creating political space for the likes of Murkowski, Collins, and other swayables to commit the occasional partisan apostasy. Targeted obstruction does this. Blanket obstruction does not.

He’s referring, of course, to Collins and Murkowski getting cold feet over Betsy DeVos, leaving her confirmation as Education secretary hanging by a thread. Try to obstruct a nominee as unobjectionable as Gorsuch and Collins and Murkowski will feel they have little choice but to fall in line behind McConnell in blowing up the filibuster. After all, whoever replaces him as nominee if he’s filibustered won’t be any better and might be considerably worse. If the nominee is someone like Cruz, though, who’s qualified for the Court but has enemies in the Senate and plenty of right-wing critics after his “vote your conscience” shtick at the convention last year, Collins and Murkowski could walk away from McConnell on the vote to get rid of the filibuster, potentially tanking the nomination.

The interesting question is what would happen if Republicans blow up the filibuster now and then Trump nominates someone “controversial” like Cruz for the next vacancy, with only 51 votes needed to confirm. Collins and Murkowski could walk under those circumstances too, but I think it’d be much harder for them to betray the party on a vote to confirm the nominee than it would to betray the party on a vote to get rid of the filibuster. There are all sorts of principled arguments you can make for the latter — it’s a glorious Senate tradition, we shouldn’t lightly discard the minority’s power to obstruct, yadda yadda. There’s really no principled argument you can make for voting no on the nominee himself. The argument would be “I don’t like Cruz even though he’s very smart, he’s Trump’s choice, and he would be a very dependable conservative vote on the bench.” That’s harder to explain to Republican voters. Newell’s whole point is that Democrats should try to preserve the filibuster as long as they can precisely so that Collins and Murkowski have that “principled” cover available to them to help defeat a truly controversial nominee later. Gorsuch just isn’t controversial in any meaningful way.

There’s a wrinkle in Newell’s argument too, though. What if … Trump ends up nominating someone who’s uncontroversial for the second vacancy too? Read Fred Barnes’s account of how Gorsuch was chosen and you’ll see that Tom Hardiman had a strong advocate in Rick Santorum and was seen within the administration as facing little difficulty in getting confirmed. If there’s another vacancy soon (Barnes claims to have heard rumors that Kennedy might retire this summer), Trump might turn around and nominate Hardiman — and then Democrats will need to find a way to explain to their base, which is spoiling for a fight with Trump, that they’re going to have to let that guy through too. That won’t go down well. They might be forced to filibuster just to show some fighting spirit and then suddenly they’ll be back to square one of Newell’s argument, practicing “blanket obstruction” against a nominee who doesn’t warrant that level of opposition. McConnell will duly nuke the filibuster and that’ll be that.

But that’s getting ahead of ourselves. Newell’s obviously correct that the smart move for Dems is to keep their powder dry, grudgingly let Gorsuch through, and then hope Trump nominates someone more easily demagogue-able next time so that they can knife that person for the gratification of their base. In lieu of an exit question, enjoy this piece from Ben Shapiro on the Gorsuch nomination, responding to Trumpers on behalf of #NeverTrump conservatives everywhere: You’re welcome.

(VIDEO-AT-LINK)


TOPICS: Issues; Parties; U.S. Senate
KEYWORDS: cruz; gorsuch; scotus; supremecourt
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1 posted on 02/03/2017 7:40:01 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Not gonna happen.


2 posted on 02/03/2017 7:42:30 PM PST by Ray76 (DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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To: Ray76

Master manipulation working hard tonight. Ted Cruz has all his cronies out seeking attention, by whatever means necessary.


3 posted on 02/03/2017 7:45:57 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Better duck, the lamebrains are gonna come after ya for saying “Cruz” again ;-)


4 posted on 02/03/2017 7:45:58 PM PST by bigbob (We have better coverage than Verizon - Can You Hear Us Now?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Maybe they expect Bader-Ginsburg to retire.


5 posted on 02/03/2017 7:46:28 PM PST by rdl6989
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So they decided to not fight over Gorsuch. Probably a sensible decision. They have to comfort themselves with something — maybe fight the next one...


6 posted on 02/03/2017 7:47:24 PM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: bigbob

Which, at this point, is why I do it. LOL


7 posted on 02/03/2017 7:47:46 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t know what’s going to happen with that or not, but I’ve dropped any and all beefs with Ted Cruz, because he has stood with President Trump publicly, and I appreciate that.


8 posted on 02/03/2017 7:49:14 PM PST by chris37 (Glory, glory, hallelujah!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Stop slurping the CRUZ-AID; he wasn't on President's Trumps SCOTUS list and he sure as shootin' won't be the next nominee!He may NEVER be ANYONE'S nominee!

It would be nice, if the damned Dems pass on Gorsuch; however, we may need the nuclear option for him, RIGHT NOW and ever after! The damned Dems ain't gonna "play nice" on ANYTHING!

9 posted on 02/03/2017 7:49:51 PM PST by nopardons
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Cruz would be the most help to DJT doing McConnell’s job, in the short run.


10 posted on 02/03/2017 7:50:20 PM PST by txhurl (The LEFT are screaming at the Tsunami, and the Sky, trying to set fire to the Ocean- S.Tom)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That seriously depends on the direction of the mid terms. If the dems lose more seats in the Senate, there wont be much they can do. If they win a couple of seats, then they will feel that they have “momentum” or something and that they can push a showdown and blame the Republicans.

Also factoring into this algebra is WHEN the next appointment becomes available. Before the mid-terms, then there is little that they can do other than try to “Bork” the nomination.

A distinct possibility is that there will be two additional openings if not in the next four years, within eight.


11 posted on 02/03/2017 7:52:00 PM PST by taxcontrol
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Cruz to loze.


12 posted on 02/03/2017 7:52:10 PM PST by FreedomStar3028 (Somebody has to step forward and do what is right because it is right, otherwise no one will follow.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Has anyone ever seen Allahpundit and Erick Erickson in the same room at the same time?


13 posted on 02/03/2017 8:00:19 PM PST by Carthego delenda est
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Nuke now. In fact, Trump needs to keep the Dims reeling with EOs so that they become even more exorcised and baited into filibuster. Michael Moore and his commie friends will push the Dim leadership into the extreme position. It’s better to strike hard and fast than to let things draw out.

Conservative SC nominees will have an easier ride later.

Fortune favors the bold. How many times have you read in history books where the general failed to exploit the victory and go for the rout.


14 posted on 02/03/2017 8:14:49 PM PST by grumpygresh (When will Soros be brought to justice? Crush the vermin, crush the Left.)
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To: rdl6989

Maybe they expect Bader-Ginsburg to retire.


I think she’s 83 or 84 years old. It’s questionable if she will serve out the next four years.

Anthony Kennedy is 80, I think?

Point is, the liberal group on the court, as a group, are older than the conservatives, so it’s more likely we’ll see some of them retire than conservatives.

In eight years, Obama was able to appoint enough judges in the lower federal courts, so that as of now, fully 1/3 of all federal court judges were appointed by Obama. The next four years of Trump can help turn that around. There are always vacancies occurring in the lower courts. But they don’t make the news very often. But we should all be aware that the president appoints those judges as well as Supreme Court justices.


15 posted on 02/03/2017 8:21:22 PM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t think Ted wants to be on the high court. He’s got a different path mapped out for his future, which (in my view) is probably Senate Majority Leader, or possibly Governor somewhere.


16 posted on 02/03/2017 8:23:27 PM PST by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: Ray76; nopardons; Admin Moderator

Title, at link, does NOT say (Cruz)

Wishful thinking by a cRuzer.

cRuz’s ship sailed LONG ago.


17 posted on 02/03/2017 8:26:38 PM PST by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: Windflier

Governor.....somewhere......

Bwahahahah! ;-)


18 posted on 02/03/2017 8:27:24 PM PST by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: chris37
I’ve dropped any and all beefs with Ted Cruz, because he has stood with President Trump publicly, and I appreciate that.

There's no doubt that Ted is stepping up and doing the right thing where (and when) it counts, but I'd like to see a longer track record than just 39 days.

Let's see him stand firm with the President for at least two years. I want to see him become a full throated defender, and take all the slings and arrows the leftmedia can throw at him, before I fully accept him back into the camp.

19 posted on 02/03/2017 8:27:37 PM PST by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: txhurl
Cruz would be the most help to DJT doing McConnell’s job, in the short run.

I totally agree, and said as much upthread.

20 posted on 02/03/2017 8:29:08 PM PST by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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