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To: FF578
The Libertarians have no problem with Pedophilia, in fact there were libertarians on this very forum screaming about the age of consent. In the libertarian theology, you have a right to have sex with whoever you want, because if it feels good it must be okay.

You're probably one of those people that think the moon landing was staged and that Elvis is still among the living. Do you believe everything you hear or just everything bad (and false) about libertarians.

I'm a libertarian and I don't support pedophilia, or abortion, or any of the other numerous things idiots like you here say we support.

Libertarians stand for freedom, same as the founding fathers did. I guess some people have a real problem with freedom. Perhaps you should live in a more regimented and repressive culture.

14 posted on 04/01/2002 8:01:41 AM PST by tdadams
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To: tdadams
>> I'm a libertarian and I don't support pedophilia, or abortion, or any of the other numerous things idiots like you here say we support. <<

Maybe YOU don't, but this doesn't change the fact that the people RUNNING your party do. Everytime the pro-abortion Republicans try to run one of their own for President, they get creamed in the primary. In fact, their guys get creamed in just about every major primary except New England's.

On the other hand, the pro-abortion Libertarians have ensured a pro-life Libertarian HASN'T gotten the nod since 1988! The Harry Browne "wing" of the LP runs the organization with an iron fist. They insist on running pro-abortion, pro-gay rights, open borders, anti-millitary, anti-religion people for ALL major offices. And the Browne apologists here blindly support the nominations of Carla Howell, Michael Cloud, and the like. Hence, people like Ron Paul gave up on the party and joined the GOP in droves.

I remember when pro-abortion RINO Mass. Gov. Jane Swift picked an openly gay, unqualified running mate-- the LP had a great chance to pick up votes here-- except THEIR nominee (Howell) also supporting gay partnerships and unrestricted abortion. Now the GOP nominee is Romney so Howell is going to be marginalized once again. The same thing happened in Texas...RINOs in the GOP are pushing amnesty for illegals, so the LP had a chance to get disgruntled Republican votes-- the only problem is all their candidates are even MORE in favor of amensty and open borders (read your party's platform if you don't believe this). After Sept. 11th, you'd think SANE Libertarians could talk their party into dropping idiotic parts of the platform that say things like: "Undocumented non-citizens should not be denied the fundamental freedom to labor and to move about unmolested...We therefore call for the elimination of all restrictions on immigration, the abolition of the Immigration and Naturalization Service and the Border Patrol, and a declaration of full amnesty for all people who have entered the country illegally."

Finally, just look at the websites of some "leading" LP candidates where they clearly state where they stand. I don't need to mention they support abortion and perverse lifestyles...THEY ALREADY MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THEY DO:

16 posted on 04/01/2002 12:07:27 PM PST by BillyBoy
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To: tdadams
"[I'm] Pro-Choice. Although some libertarians believe abortion is wrong, they realize that government prohibition causes even more problems, including unsafe abortion procedures.
Moreover, the U.S. Congress has no constitutional authority to regulate this intimate, personal decision"
--Dan Belforti, Libertarian nominee for Congress (NH-1st)

"I'm an idealist. I'd wish for the best of both worlds. I'd decree a world where you could respect the unborn life and a respect woman's right to choose... I call it "pro- option". So were I "just this king" instead of just this guy, I would decree that if a woman does not want her unborn child, she must first sign a legal document saying that she thereby abandons her unborn child. If she doesn't want the baby, she doesn't have to keep it; that's pro-choice."
"It's obvious how I stand on [sexual] issues: your life is yours to live your way. Period. ... All must be equal in the eyes of the law."
-- Ken Krawchuk, Libertarian nominee for Governor of Pennsyvania

"I am a pro-choice and believe that this is a personal individual right which is different in each case. "
Sonia Harden, Libertarian nominee for Congress (CA-10TH)
"Abortion: I don't believe that government should be used by anyone to prevent what is a personal responsibility issue. Our present law is adequate"
--Rick Stanley, Libertarian nominee for U.S. Senate (Colorado)

"Pro-Choice"
"Someone who believes strongly that certain lifestyles are morally wrong, should not try to force others to accept their views either. Yet that is what has happened through the marriage laws of most states. These laws effectively establish a state religion by allowing only traditional Judeo-Christian marriages. "
--Clyde Cleveland, Libertarian nominee for Governor of Iowa

"I am pro-choice on just about everything including a woman's right to choose. Government bureaucrats should not interfere in that choice. We don't want to go back to a time when women had to have abortions in unsafe conditions."
--Jim Higgins, Libertarian nominee for Congress (MO-1st)

Of course, it's early on in the election season, so most people don't have comprehensive websites, let alone 3rd party candidates. Plus most LP's want to avoid "contraversal" issues like abortion (although they sure love to talk about legalizing drugs). Of the sites I found that talked about it, there were nine self-described "pro-choice" Libertarians, and two self-described "pro-life" ones. Hmmm...

17 posted on 04/01/2002 12:09:49 PM PST by BillyBoy
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