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Congress Looks to Grant Legal Status to Immigrants; expect Judiciary to approve the bill this week
New York Times ^ | 10-13-03

Posted on 10/13/2003 10:50:14 AM PDT by Brian S

By STEVEN GREENHOUSE

Published: October 13, 2003

Eighteen-year-old Yuliana Huicochea moved to the United States at age 4, but now faces deportation because immigration officials stopped her on a school trip to a science fair.

Ms. Huicochea's troubles began last year when she and other members of her high school science team traveled from Phoenix to Buffalo to enter their 15-foot solar-powered boat in the fair and decided to take a side trip to the Canadian side of Niagara Falls. Immigration officials stopped Ms. Huicochea and three teammates and told them they faced deportation because they were illegal immigrants.

"I'm scared," said Ms. Huicochea (WEE-coe-CHAY-uh), now a sophomore at Phoenix College, who declined to say what country she immigrated from. "I don't know any other place. My whole family is here. This is where my education is, my dreams, my goals. I don't know what I would do anywhere else."

Hispanic groups and immigrant advocates have embraced her cause, insisting that it is wrong to expel teenagers who immigrated as toddlers. And now, with many members of Congress thinking about next year's elections and paying increasing attention to the concerns of Hispanics, the issue is gaining bipartisan interest on Capitol Hill.

Orrin G. Hatch, the Utah Republican who is chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, is sponsoring a bill that would grant legal status to Ms. Huicochea and tens of thousands of other high school students or graduates who are illegal immigrants. His bill — the Development, Relief and Education for Alien Minors (or Dream) Act, has 36 sponsors, one-third of them Republican. His aides say they expect the Judiciary Committee to approve the bill this week.

The bill is part of a wave of immigration legislation that has gathered bipartisan momentum in recent weeks. One bill would grant accelerated citizenship to immigrants who serve in the armed forces. Another would grant legal status to 500,000 farm workers if they commit themselves to doing agricultural work for several more years. That bill's main sponsors in the Senate are Larry Craig, Republican of Idaho, and Edward M. Kennedy, Democrat of Massachusetts. They say it has the support of the Senate leadership, conservatives, liberals, agricultural employers, the nation's largest farm workers' union, the Chamber of Commerce and the A.F.L.-C.I.O.

"On the farm workers' bill," said Cecilia Munoz, a vice president of the National Council of La Raza, a Latino advocacy group, "you're talking about an alliance of strange bedfellows who have agreed on a major policy that's in the interests of the industry and the workers."

Sharon Hughes, executive vice president of the National Council of Agricultural Employers, said, "For the first time, we have a large constituency for the reforms."

Several lawmakers say their strategy is to use the farm workers' bill as a wedge to advance other legislation that would grant legal status to other groups of illegal immigrants, like the hundreds of thousands working in restaurants and hotels.

"We think we have an excellent chance of getting the agricultural workers' bill passed," Senator Kennedy said. "I'm drawing up follow-up legislation for other industries. There's been a dramatic shift in the atmosphere on all this."

Republican backers in the House and Senate say the White House has signaled that President Bush will sign the farm workers' bill if it reaches his desk.

Claire Buchan, a White House spokeswoman, said, "We are reviewing this legislation and look forward to working with Congress."

Two years ago a push to grant legal status to millions of illegal immigrants was gaining momentum as President Vicente Fox of Mexico pressed President Bush to give a fairer deal to immigrant laborers. But the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, derailed those efforts, because the Bush administration began concentrating on securing borders rather than helping immigrants.

"We are farther away from the horrors of Sept. 11, and we've had a chance to digest it," said John F. Gay, co-chairman of the Essential Worker Immigration Coalition, a business group that supports granting legal status to millions of illegal immigrants. "People inside and outside of Congress are beginning to understand that immigration reform makes you more secure."

Under the Craig-Kennedy bill, immigrants who want legal status must show that they did farm work for 100 days over the past 18 months. They will then receive temporary resident status, but if they fail to do 360 days of farm work over the next six years, they will revert to illegal status. The bill would also reduce many bureaucratic barriers that make it hard for farmers to bring in seasonal guest workers from abroad.

"This is not an amnesty program," said Representative Howard L. Berman, a California Democrat who is co-sponsoring the House bill with Christopher P. Cannon, a Utah Republican. "This is an earned legalization program."

Opponents of helping illegal immigrants have vowed to fight the new bills. "It's never time to reward people for breaking the law," said Representative Tom Tancredo, a Colorado Republican who is one of Congress's most outspoken foes of easing immigration rules. "That's the worst kind of public policy."

Mr. Hatch's legislation would grant legal status to teenagers like Ms. Huicochea who have been in the United States at least five years, have graduated from high school and have no criminal record. The bill would also lift a restriction that discourages state universities from charging the lower in-state tuition rate to illegal immigrants.

"We've gone to high school at taxpayers' expense, and now we can't give back to the community because we face deportation," said Ms. Huicochea, who hopes to become a lawyer. "The Dream Act is not only for our benefit, but for everybody. We would be able to start giving back to the community."


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; US: Idaho; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: aflcio; amnesty; bush43; farmworkers; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; judiciarycommittee; laraza; larrycraig; naturalization; orrinhatch; republicanturncoats; tedkennedy; tomtancredo; unions

1 posted on 10/13/2003 10:50:15 AM PDT by Brian S
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"But the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, derailed those efforts, because the Bush administration began concentrating on securing borders rather than helping immigrants"
2 posted on 10/13/2003 10:52:23 AM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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3 posted on 10/13/2003 10:55:26 AM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: Brian S
"It's for the Children" puke alert!


4 posted on 10/13/2003 10:55:43 AM PDT by Weimdog
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To: Sabertooth
T-H-E-Y
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5 posted on 10/13/2003 10:57:20 AM PDT by KantianBurke (Don't Tread on Me)
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To: KantianBurke
Eighteen-year-old Yuliana Huicochea moved to the United States at age 4, but now faces deportation because immigration officials stopped her on a school trip to a science fair.

Yeah, that's why.
6 posted on 10/13/2003 11:05:26 AM PDT by just mimi
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To: gubamyster; HiJinx; madfly; JustPiper
ping
7 posted on 10/13/2003 11:05:55 AM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Ideas have consequences)
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To: *immigrant_list
Bump...
8 posted on 10/13/2003 11:07:26 AM PDT by Brian S (" In the United States, armed masses represent the foundation of political order.")
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To: Brian S
Makes me sick to see a great nation caving into 3rd world scammers. We do this and we will get a lot more of the same scammers. Making our borders a joke.


Word is out that USA is a soft, idiot nation
9 posted on 10/13/2003 11:10:51 AM PDT by dennisw (G_d is at war with Amalek for all generations)
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To: Brian S
"This is not an amnesty program," said Representative Howard L. Berman, a California Democrat who is co-sponsoring the House bill with Christopher P. Cannon, a Utah Republican. "This is an earned legalization program."

Maybe I'm dense but it sure sounds like an amnesty program.

I can see cutting slack to young adults brought here as kids though. They shouldn't be punished for their parents wrong doing and after so many years they're probably more American than whatever country the parents come from. Maybe there should be some kind of case by case review to determine the best course of action.

10 posted on 10/13/2003 11:11:34 AM PDT by NEPA
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To: Brian S
Write your Congressman and Senators to tell them you oppose these bills. Let them know we are watching and taking names on who is selling out America.
11 posted on 10/13/2003 11:14:36 AM PDT by RicocheT
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
"But the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, derailed those efforts, because the Bush administration began concentrating on securing borders rather than helping immigrants"

Things are getting back on track...

The Illegal Alien Amnesty of Senator John Cornyn (R-Texas) - S.1387 - full text
      Posted by Sabertooth
On 10/12/2003 5:18 PM PDT with 24 comments


October 12th, 2003 | Sabertooth
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R-Cornyn bill would help immigrants, allows millions to work legally in U.S.
      Posted by VU4G10
On 10/10/2003 9:18 AM PDT with 74 comments


www.valleystar.com ^ | NOEL ESPINOZA
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SENATE POISED TO GRANT ILLEGAL ALIEN STUDENT AMNESTY
      Posted by wilyrascal
On 10/06/2003 6:23 PM PDT with 68 comments


F.A.I.R. ^ | 10/6/03
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Hatch Backs Schwarzenegger, Says Foreign-Born Americans Should Run For White House
      Posted by Sabertooth
On 10/06/2003 10:37 AM PDT with 57 comments


GOPUSA ^ | October 6th, 2003 | Jimmy Moore
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Army says illegal-immigrant soldier can stay
      Posted by bicycle thug
On 10/03/2003 11:13 PM PDT with 28 comments


seattletimes.nwsource.com ^ | Friday, October 03, 2003 - Page updated at 12:00 A.M. | By Florangela Davila
In a widely watched immigration case, the Army yesterday said it will assist Pvt. Juan Escalante, of Seattle, an illegal immigrant and veteran of the Iraq conflict, in securing legal status to remain in the United States. Richard Olson, spokesman at Fort Stewart, Ga., called Escalante "a good soldier and a value to the Army." "The intent of the command is to resolve this to the benefit of all parties concerned," Olson said. An executive order signed by President Bush last year allows noncitizen soldiers who have served honorably during Operation Enduring Freedom to apply for U.S. citizenship. That order...
     
 
Bush aides anger GOP lawmakers on consular IDs
      Posted by Brian S
On 10/02/2003 7:02 AM PDT with 74 comments


Washington Times ^ | 10-02-03
Bush administration officials yesterday angered lawmakers by refusing to take a position on illegal aliens obtaining U.S. driver's licenses and avoiding questions about its decision to recognize Mexican identification cards. Officials testifying before the House Select Committee on Homeland Security said they are reviewing what documentation is secure and reliable, but evaded direct questions on the matricula consular cards now accepted by California and New Mexico to obtain driver's licenses. Critics say the cards issued by the Mexican Embassy are easily falsified and used by illegal aliens to establish residency. Stewart Verdery, Homeland Security assistant secretary, was asked directly whether...
     
 
Solving the Immigration Impasse (Arnold redefines Amnesty)
      Posted by Sabertooth
On 09/24/2003 11:43 AM PDT with 117 comments


JoinArnold.com - Schwarzenegger Campaign Website ^ | August, 2003 | Arnold Schwarzenegger
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Vasquez slams efforts to aid illegal immigrants
      Posted by jokar
On 09/26/2003 11:26 AM PDT with 63 comments


The Idaho Statesman ^ | September 25,2003 | Sandra Forester
CALDWELL — Canyon County Commissioner Robert Vasquez on Wednesday issued a searing condemnation of efforts by Idaho´s congressional delegation to support legislation to help illegal immigrants. “I am accusing Larry Craig, Mike Crapo, Butch Otter and Mike Simpson of collaborating with the unarmed enemy invading America,” Vasquez wrote in a news release issued on his official commissioner stationery. “All for a vote to stay in office.” Craig and Crapo, Idaho´s U.S. senators, declined comment. Vasquez opposes proposed legislation that would give undocumented workers the opportunity to earn permanent legal status. Craig and Sen. Ted Kennedy, D-Mass., are co-sponsoring such a...
     
 
Stealth amnesty for illegal aliens?
      Posted by JustPiper
On 09/19/2003 1:30 AM PDT with 34 comments


WND ^ | 9-19-03 | Jon Dougherty
Arizona lawmakers criticized for bill meant to reduce border crossings Members of Arizona's congressional delegation are under fire from an immigration-reform group for sponsoring legislation critics say is little more than stealth amnesty for illegal aliens. Republican Reps. Jim Kolbe and Jeff Flake, as well as Sen. John McCain, have co-sponsored H.R. 2899, the Border Security and Immigration Improvement Act, which they claim is really a "guest worker program." Rep. Jim Kolbe, R-Ariz. According to Kolbe, who introduced the bill July 25, it is designed to "halt illegal immigration, make it easier for foreign workers to apply for visas and...
     
 
Treasury keeps rules allowing acceptance of Mexican ID; victory for immigration and Latino groups
      Posted by Brian S
On 09/18/2003 9:21 AM PDT with 64 comments


Associated Press ^ | 09-18-03
SUZANNE GAMBOA, Associated Press Writer Thursday, September 18, 2003 ---------------------------------------- (09-18) 09:14 PDT WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Treasury Department said Monday it will leave in place rules that allow financial institutions to accept the Mexican identification card, called matricula consular, which often are used by undocumented immigrants to open bank accounts. The decision is considered a victory for immigration and Latino groups who have protested efforts to prohibit use of the identification card as anti-immigrant and anti-Hispanic. Financial institutions, too, had opposed any change in the rule. The card is issued by Mexico's consulates in the United States and shows...
     
 
Mass Deportation of Muslim Illegal Aliens ruled out
      Posted by jonatron
On 04/04/2003 6:35 AM PST with 167 comments


WORLD TRIBUNE ^ | 2/18/03
Tuesday, February 18, 2003 The Bush administration has rejected the prospect of mass deportations of Muslim illegal aliens. The administration plans to relay this message to American Muslim leaders amid the current nationwide alert for an Al Qaida attack. Hundreds of Muslims have been detained as illegal aliens as part of a crackdown by federal law enforcement authorities, Middle East Newsline reported. On Tuesday, FBI Director Robert Mueller will meet American Muslim leaders to discuss federal measures against Al Qaida threats. Muslim groups have filed a class action suit against the government, charging that the Immigration and Naturalization Service has...
     
 
FBI Director Stresses Need For Secure Mexico Border
      Posted by chance33_98
On 09/09/2003 10:04 AM PDT with 22 comments


ksat ^
FBI Director Stresses Need For Secure Mexico Border Mueller Attends Border Terrorism Conference In S.A. POSTED: 10:17 AM CDT September 9, 2003 SAN ANTONIO -- FBI director Robert Mueller said Monday in San Antonio that the United States faces a difficult and long-lasting balancing act on its southwest border with Mexico: letting beneficial trade and immigrants pass through while filtering out potential terror threats. Mueller (pictured, left) used this week's second anniversary of the 9-11 attacks to trumpet successes in thwarting America's enemies and to reiterate the continuing risks posed by al-Qaida and others. "Al-Qaida keeps adapting," he told...
     
 
A Constitutional Anachronism: Immigrants should be eligible for the Presidency
      Posted by Destro
On 09/06/2003 2:53 PM PDT with 78 comments


nytimes.com ^ | September 6, 2003 | nytimes.com
A Constitutional Anachronism America is a nation of immigrants. Immigrants have shaped our politics and diplomacy, run our government and defended us in wartime — more than 700 recipients of the Medal of Honor have been immigrants. Yet no matter how great their contributions or sacrifices, immigrants remain ineligible for the nation's highest office because of a provision in the Constitution that bars naturalized American citizens from becoming president. The provision has long since outlived its usefulness, if it had any in the first place. Orrin Hatch, a Senate Republican, and Vic Snyder, a House Democrat, are pushing amendments to...
     
 
Cornyn proposes plan for immigrant 'guest workers' (Amnesty)
      Posted by Sabertooth
On 07/11/2003 8:38 AM PDT with 14 comments


Dallas Ft. Worth Star-Telegram ^ | July 11th, 2003 | Dave Montgomery
Cornyn proposes plan for immigrant 'guest workers' By Dave Montgomery Star-Telegram Washington Bureau John Cornyn WASHINGTON - U.S. Sen. John Cornyn launched his first major legislative initiative Thursday, calling for a guest worker program that would enable millions of undocumented immigrants to legally live and work in the United States for up to three years.The bill puts the first-term Texas Republican in the center of politically volatile efforts to overhaul the nation's immigration laws. The issue has strained relations between the Bush administration and Mexican President Vicente Fox, who is pressing the U.S. government to grant legal status to the...
     
 
Orrin Hatch addresses immigrants(Illegal aliens)
      Posted by 4.1O dana super trac pak
On 09/05/2003 5:51 PM PDT with 88 comments


Salt Lake Tribune ^ | 9/52003 | Christopher Smith
WASHINGTON--Speaking at a rally of young undocumented immigrants who are urging Congress to allow them to attend public colleges at in-state tuition prices, Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, said the country will "benefit enormously" by opening college classes to the children of people who entered the U.S. illegaly."We can choose either to keep these talented young people underground or we can choose to give them a chance to contribute to the United States," Hatch said at a Capitol Hill news conference Thursday to urge support of his "DREAM Act," the Development, Relief, and Education For Alien Minors Act.The Bill sponsored by...
     
 
Powell meets Mexican envoy, hopeful on immigration reform; "We may get results slowly but surely"
      Posted by Brian S
On 09/05/2003 7:09 PM PDT with 127 comments


AP ^ | 09-05-03
GEORGE GEDDA, Associated Press Writer Friday, September 5, 2003 ---------------------------------------- (09-05) 18:42 PDT WASHINGTON (AP) -- Secretary of State Colin Powell said Friday after a meeting with Mexico's foreign minister that he believes progress may be possible in resolving long-standing differences with Mexico on immigration issues. Powell said that at November meetings with Mexican officials, the United States plans to offer ideas that "will demonstrate to the Mexican people and to Americans that we are serious about resolving immigration issues." Powell's meeting with Mexican Foreign Secretary Luis Ernesto Derbez also covered the administration proposal for a new U.N. Security Council...
     

12 posted on 10/13/2003 11:18:51 AM PDT by Sabertooth (No Drivers' Licences for Illegal Aliens. Petition SB60. http://www.saveourlicense.com/n_home.htm)
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To: Brian S
From two threads here today..."Congress Looks to Grant Legal Status to Immigrants;..." "Latino gangs strike fear in heart of US capital"

Anybody see anything here?

13 posted on 10/13/2003 11:22:29 AM PDT by Thom Pain
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To: Sabertooth
but...but...Bush hasn't done anything about the borders. Or so I was told by the antibots!
14 posted on 10/13/2003 11:25:49 AM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Sabertooth
You know this about does it. No matter what we think they will just go ahead and do what they want.

The only recourse we have is armed revolt or hitting them in their pockets. They say they can't find and deport 8 million illegal criminals. Ok, then 8 million of us should not only withold our votes but our taxes too. After all I'm sure that they will be glad to have some program for people like us. They don' have to call it amnesty. But I would like amnesty for the rest of my life on paying taxes and so would at least 8 million more. Let's see if they can find all of us.

It's time. It's way past time for the American people to do something.
15 posted on 10/13/2003 11:35:19 AM PDT by georgiabelle (Bleeding hearts should bleed)
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To: Sabertooth
The insidious invasion of America, allowed by an American President and other elected idiots.
16 posted on 10/13/2003 11:36:18 AM PDT by janetgreen (IS ANYONE AWAKE AT THE WHITE HOUSE? AMERICA IS BEING INVADED!)
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To: Sabertooth
Cornyn's bill is Gramm's old bill I think.
17 posted on 10/13/2003 11:41:06 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative ("We happy because when we switch on the TV you never see Saddam Hussein. That's a big happy.")
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To: Brian S
If RINO support this we will remember. I will vote against the aholes if they support this, regardless of the outcome - even if I elect a lib by default.
18 posted on 10/13/2003 11:47:00 AM PDT by sasafras (sasafras (The road to hell is paved with good intentions))
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To: Brian S
I guess they are trying to send the message that if you break the law and get away with it for a long enough period of time....you will get rewarded. Great message!
19 posted on 10/13/2003 12:10:36 PM PDT by Feiny (We Will Never Forget!)
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To: A Navy Vet; Lion Den Dan; Free the USA; Libertarianize the GOP; madfly; B4Ranch; FITZ; Spiff; ...
ping
22 posted on 10/13/2003 2:33:33 PM PDT by gubamyster
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To: Brian S
I want no illegal aliens granted anything and will vote against anyone who grants them these rights........
23 posted on 10/13/2003 2:35:34 PM PDT by FloridaBoy
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To: Brian S
Damn those traitorous bastards to hell.
24 posted on 10/13/2003 2:38:17 PM PDT by lodwick
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To: Brian S
"Are these politicians nuts???"
25 posted on 10/13/2003 3:05:35 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: dennisw
No, word is out that both parties are pushing an open borders no sovereignty agenda and that we need a third party fast.
26 posted on 10/13/2003 3:18:23 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: Brian S
*BUMP* !
27 posted on 10/13/2003 3:27:29 PM PDT by ex-Texan (Why Davis Orders Shredders - - To Destroy Evidence of Fund Raising Felonies!)
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To: feinswinesuksass
"""I guess they are trying to send the message that if you break the law and get away with it for a long enough period of time....you will get rewarded. Great message!"""

The other message they are sending is "We don't give a flip what the American People want...They answer to us and will do whatever WE tell them to do"...


28 posted on 10/13/2003 3:38:32 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: Brian S

Last week I called my two senators office's in D.C., both of whom who are on the judiciary committee, spoke to some office flunkies and demanded that their bosses vote against letting this bill out on the floor. I explained that supposedly illegal aliens don't vote, so who were those two guys pandering to , if they decided to vote yes on this. I told them it certainly would not be the honest american citizens who will be surely p.o'd when they discover that their reps voted for this in a time of university cutbacks, state budget deficits, etc

They both said they'd pass it on...

Everyone here should do the same. Now. Be loud.
29 posted on 10/13/2003 4:18:24 PM PDT by BabaOreally
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To: Brian S
God how I detest Oral Hatch. Phony opposition for a phony democracy, he understands that the system, not the people, wants this and that supporting it is good for his career, and to hell with what the people want or what is good for the nation. God, Orrin, haven't you sucked enough of our blood? You can't live forever, how about a little atonement by standing up to the enemies of your nation for once in your life, you lousy quisling.
30 posted on 10/13/2003 7:20:46 PM PDT by jordan8
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To: Brian S
This reminds me of the early 90's when the Democrats were in the majority in congress regarding universal health caare. Some of them made the statement that "the American people would get universal health care whether they like it or not".

Look what happened to the Democrat congress. Bush needs to think as this will do him in and under.
31 posted on 10/13/2003 8:44:46 PM PDT by texastoo
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To: Brian S; FoxFang; FITZ; moehoward; Nea Wood; CheneyChick; Joe Hadenuf; sangoo; ...
Larry Craig, Republican of Idaho, and Edward M. Kennedy, Democrat of Massachusetts - Representative Howard L. Berman, a California Democrat who is co-sponsoring the House bill with Christopher P. Cannon, a Utah Republican- Mr. Hatch's legislation would grant legal status to teenagers

I am so TIRED and SICK of these bleeding heart sob stories!!! Note the names above, make your calls Freeper's!

32 posted on 10/13/2003 8:51:29 PM PDT by JustPiper (18 out of 19 HiJacker's had State issued Driver's License's !!!)
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To: dennisw
Meximerica!
33 posted on 10/13/2003 9:03:24 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Sabertooth
Great post. It's a shame the two beltway parties could care less......
34 posted on 10/13/2003 9:05:45 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Libertarianize the GOP
Bump an thanx for the ping ;)
35 posted on 10/14/2003 12:46:16 AM PDT by JustPiper (18 out of 19 HiJacker's had State issued Driver's License's !!!)
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To: Brian S
Republican backers in the House and Senate say the White House has signaled that President Bush will sign the farm workers' bill if it reaches his desk.

Disgusted bump to the top.

36 posted on 10/14/2003 7:27:53 AM PDT by truthkeeper
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To: Thom Pain
From two threads here today..."Congress Looks to Grant Legal Status to Immigrants;..." "Latino gangs strike fear in heart of US capital"
Anybody see anything here?

Nope, nothing to see here. Move along, folks.

37 posted on 10/14/2003 7:31:54 AM PDT by truthkeeper
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To: georgiabelle
"You know this about does it. No matter what we think they will just go ahead and do what they want."

Looks that way.

Worse still is how many of us say "I'm against Illegal Immigration" while continuing to patronize business that employ Illegals.
Short of picking up arms and patrolling the border, the only weapon we have is our dollars.

38 posted on 10/14/2003 8:35:35 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: JustPiper
This country is in the balance and we are being ignored.

Too many unpatriotic globalist and they are spitting in our faces....

39 posted on 10/14/2003 4:57:05 PM PDT by 4.1O dana super trac pak (Stop the open borders death cult)
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