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No one has mentioned the comment by Arianna during the debate that "everyone knows how you treat women".

This was the line where Arnold responded that he had just the right part Arianna could take in the next Terminator movie.

Obviously, Arianna also knew what was coming, well before dirty Thursday.

No one has mentioned the comment by Arianna during the debate that "everyone knows how you treat women".

Very good catch. You're right....

Obviously, Arianna also knew what was coming, well before dirty Thursday.

Yep, she was in the loop.

What makes me laugh outloud is the context of Arnold's so-called "groping". By all standards, he comes off as a rich frat guy getting drunk and groping drunk women or driving along the strip playing loud music and propositioning every woman, crudely, they see.

I don't know what's worse. Men coming up to women (as I saw so many times in college) and making remarks like, "oh baby, you are going to be sucking my Richard tonight" while the women laugh or the fact it worked and they went home with those women.

Then, I throw in the Hollywood factor. Hollywood is one giant film orgy the way the tabloids write. Every leading actress is doing the leading actor while cheating on their leading actor/actress spouse. Meg Ryan is thrown around like a Raggedy Ann doll.

Do any of these women say Arnold forced sex on them? No. Do any of them claim they lost jobs if they said no to him? No.

The 2 out of 15 (first 6, then 15...I still have yet to find the stories of #7-15) that did go on record were an old English has been that was probably just happy Arnold said "Hi" to her while she was slutting on some set for a bit part. I've read she has a worse reputation in England.

I don't even remember who the other one was, since her story was so lame it made me laugh. I've had women grope me worse than her story.

But there was that one woman I believed. The one that looked like she was 80 years old and had about two facelifts a year for a decade. Only because she looked more like Arnold's wife Maria and I thought he might be into that type of woman! ;-)

And isn't Hollywood the casting couch city of sin? Isn't groping and sex games going on all the time? If not, then I'm cancelling my subscriptions to the Enquirer, Star, etc. lol

Then there is the hypocrisy issue the press bandies about. They are, as usual, trying to set up a moral equivalence to give themselves cover for their flip-flops. They say "well, the Republicans attacked Clinton for this and give Arnold a pass" and the Republicans, rightly, point out the Dems and feminist giving Clinton a free pass.

Even Gloria Steinem (sp) came up with the "one grope" rule. And their hypocrisy knows no bounds. First, they ignored their employer/employee rule of power in sexual harrassment when it came to Paula Jones. They ignored the "women don't lie about rape" rule with Juanita Brodderick. They ignored the crude advances by Clinton to Kathleen Willey because she "liked him" as a President and sent nice letters. They ignored the threats made to Elizabeth Gracen that forced her to live overseas.

Real women, with real facts about real laws being broken by Clinton. They didn't hide behind anomity and most were afraid, earlier, to even come forward because they had been so imtimidated by Hillary's bimbo-eruption hit squad.

To compare that to Arnold and the unsubstantiated claims made against him is ridiculous. His "apology" was brilliant. It was, again, like a frat boy just saying, "yeah, we got carried away at that kegger and I apologize to any woman I might have offended while playing nude Twister with them".

And I can imagine Arnold getting out of line once in a while, but he wasn't vicious or hurtful...if you believe all the anonomous stories the LA Times had for years, not 7 weeks. But I then don't believe most of them knowing how many women were probably just throwing themselves at him like a mother and daughter trailer trash team going to a Def Leppard concert and getting to the after party doing that mother/daugh....nevermind.