Gay "Conservative" Andrew Sullivan, Trashes Mississippi Republican Haley Barbour & Southerners

Andrew Sullivan.com ^ | October 15, 2003 | Andrew Sullivan

[ComtedeMaistre]

Blog Entry: October 15, 2003

HALEY BARBOUR'S PHOTO-OP: With the nice folks at the Council of Conservative Citizens. Nice to see that, after Trent Lott, the Southern G.O.P. is no longer cavorting with white supremacists, isn't it? Barbour says he "knows nothing about the Council." Who does he think he's kidding?

[ComtedeMaistre]

Haley Barbour is running to be the next candidate for Governor of Mississippi, and is trying to dislodge a Rat Governor. But, guess what? An arrogant pompous immigrant British homosexual writing from DC, Andrew Sullivan, who considers himself to be a "conservative", doesn't approve of Barbour.

And what is Barbour's crime? He appeared in a photo with a group of his constituents, who also happen to be members of the Council of Conservative Citizens (CCC).

Two can play that game. Nine years ago, when he was editor of the New Republic, Andrew Sullivan was denounced by many liberals as a racist, for heavily promoting the book, the Bell Curve, authored by Charles Murray and Richard Herrnstein. Sullivan went as far as opening up the pages of the New Republic to Charles Murray, allowing him to promote his racial theories.

I will not comment on whether or not Charles Murray's views are racist or not. But Sullivan seems to believe that Haley Barbour's act of associating with the CCC, is a far worse sin, than Sullivan's own actions in heavily promoting and defending Charles Murray and his book. As far as we know, Haley Barbour has not promoted and defended the work of the CCC. He has only associated with them.

This is yet another example of anti-Southern bias. Why is promoting the work of Charles Murray okay, but associating with the CCC wrong? Is it because CCC members are Southerners, and Charles Murray is from Iowa? Our elites tell us that only Southerners are capable of being racist, and that the sin of racism is unknown in such Northern bastions of tolerance such as Iowa, Chicago, Boston, Seattle, and New York. Damn those Southern rednecks!

Is Andrew Sullivan really qualified to sit in moral judgement over Haley Barbour on the issue of race?

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[WKB]

Missippy ping

[WKB]

You might want to give this "guy" a call.

[Dolphy]

I really like Sullivan and consider his homosexuality irrelevant. HOWEVER I absolutely agree with you that he is anti-Southern and has, at best, some five decade old text book understanding of the South. Actually, I think his grasp of American culture is really twisted around the small slice of his life here as an "intellectual" living among his own. (And by that I mean sheltered elitists.)

I am not from the South, nor was I sad to see Trent Lott go, but Sullivan's take was so embarrassingly shallow and stereotypical that I didn't make a planned donation to his site.

[Vast Buffalo Wing Conspiracy]

We warned you not to trust these neo-con infiltrators. Just because this slimey limey "supported the war" doesn't mean he's a friend of real conservatives.

[marron]

While we're at it, here is another nugget from Sullivan that is worth reading.


Wednesday, October 15, 2003

WHAT LIBERAL MEDIA?

Don't miss Jill Stewart's post-mortem on the Los Angeles Times' attempt to destroy Arnold Schwarzenegger by any journalistic means necessary. Here are money quotes from someone Stewart calls a "longtime, respected Timesian involved in the Schwarzenegger coverage":

Toward the end, a kind of hysteria gripped the newsroom. I witnessed a deep-seated, irrational need to get something on this guy [Schwarzenegger]. By Wednesday before it was published, I counted not fewer than 24 reporters dispatched on Arnold, and this entire enterprise was directed by John Carroll himself. Carroll launched the project with the words: 'I want a full scrub of Arnold.' This was fully and completely and daily driven by Carroll.

He's as good as his word on being balanced and trying to make this paper more balanced, he really is. But not when it came to Schwarzenegger. Carroll changed completely. It was visceral, and he made it clear he wanted something bad on Schwarzenegger and he didn't care what it was.

The air of unreality among people here was so extreme that when they did the office pool, of something like 113 people who put in a dollar to bet on the outcome of the recall and on who would be chosen governor, only 31 bet 'yes' on recall and 'yes' Schwarzenegger to win. All you had to do was read a poll to know how wrong that was, but inside this place only about 25 percent of the people could see the recall coming...

The mainstream press critics like those published on Romenesko are asleep as to what has happened here. They are defending the L.A. Times in every way. There should be no defense by media critics of what happened here. One woman did not sleep for two nights after a Times reporter showed up at her door, with the thinnest evidence, demanding to know if her child was Arnold's love child. It never panned out, it was untrue. Why has the L.A. Times become a tabloid, knocking relentlessly on people's doors for tabloid gossip? And would John Carroll have run a front page Love Child story if it had been true? Could we sink any lower?

[the Real fifi]

Sullivan is one of the finest conservative writers and minds. If he objects, it is because the Republican party is so often unfairly tagged as racist and anti-gay, tags which limit its appeal. There is no reason to give ammunition to your enemies, and a more prudent pol would not have allowed this meeting or photo.

[marron]

Sullivan is occasionally annoying and occasionally dead on the money.

[onyx]

You might want to give this "guy" a call.

If I thought this flamer would sway anyone fixin to vote for Haley into NOT voting for Haley, I might consider calling him. :-)

[Gabz]

For the life of me I have no understanding why some people refuse to accept the fact that homosexuals can be conservatives.

As to racism - the worst racism I have seen, and personally encountered, has come from blacks and hispanics directed at white people. I saw it growing up in New York City. I saw it spending my summers on the west coast of Florida, and I have seen it for the past 21 years living and working on the DelMarVa peninsula.

[beaversmom]

Sullivan is alright some of the time, but Mark Steyn has a much better grasp of America.

[vetvetdoug]

The CCC is no more racist than the NAACP or the ACLU. Jared Taylor and Samuel Francis say things that the left does not want to hear, that is, the truth.

[Non-Sequitur]

The CCC is no more racist than the NAACP or the ACLU.

And if Haley Barbour was seen hanging around with either group then you would think less of him. Why not the same with the Council of Conservative Citizens? We're not talking about the League of the South, with their quaint longing for a return to the old south. We're talking about an organization that chooses to align itself with Holocaust deniers like Ernst Zündel, white supremecist organizations like Australian New Nation and in Britain like Sean Bryson? You are identified in part by the people you associate with.

[Dolphy]

Sullivan is alright some of the time, but Mark Steyn has a much better grasp of America.

I can't disagree with you there.

[BibChr]

Sullivan doesn't interest me. His embrace of and rationalizations for repugnant behavior do knock the value of his opinions down to the floor for me.

But as far as I know he's a conservative.

It's "gay" I'd put in quotation marks.

Dan

[Brian S]

We warned you not to trust these neo-con infiltrators. Just because this slimey limey "supported the war" doesn't mean he's a friend of real conservatives.

Tut-tut...you have earned a "discount". Now step right up to the bar....