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If you think "safer sex" is bunk, please help with this freep
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Posted on 10/15/2003 11:26:23 AM PDT by UnbornChild

Could you please take a look at the article and vote "5" at the bottom?

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=571&e=3&u=/nm/pope_aids_dc

Yahoo has a section with the highest-rated articles. Also, if you have friends who might be interested in reading this article, please press the "Email Story" link. It has a "Most Popular" section as well. I think this could be a good Freep, because it would result in more people seeing this article. I hope this works!


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: aids; condoms; safersex; safesex

1 posted on 10/15/2003 11:26:23 AM PDT by UnbornChild
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To: UnbornChild
"Relying on condoms is like betting on your own death," Cardinal Alfonso Lopez Trujillo, the president of the Vatican's Pontifical Council for the Family, told Reuters in an interview.

I agree with this statement from a practical as well as a religious and moral standpoint. Anyone who has sex with someone with AIDS, with or without a condom, is out of his skull. The figures I have seen suggests that there is about a 15-20% chance of condom failure with the AIDS virus, not the kind of odds you want when you're playing with death. Although the sex educators advocate condom use for others, few of them are stupid enough to take this kind of risk themselves.

The article goes on to quote the usual suspects--dissident cardinals--who disagree with the Vatican on this issue, notably the heretic archbishop of Los Angeles.

2 posted on 10/15/2003 11:33:51 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: UnbornChild
In case it wasn't clear in my first post, click here to read the article:

Cardinal Insists Condoms Unsafe Against AIDS

3 posted on 10/15/2003 11:35:22 AM PDT by UnbornChild
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To: Cicero
I have never verified the science for myself, but the fact that WHO admits that there's a 10% failure rate should be alarming to people. If 10% of the people who have sex with AIDS-infected partners over a one year period, well DUH of course that's not going to STOP the AIDS crisis, it will only SLOW it. In other words, you're still at risk of dying from non-monogamous sex.
4 posted on 10/15/2003 11:38:28 AM PDT by UnbornChild
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To: UnbornChild
The average rating right now is 3.68 If we want it to make it to the "Highest rated" section, it has to be rated at least a 4.2. It's been going down. When I voted, it was at 3.73.
5 posted on 10/15/2003 11:40:38 AM PDT by UnbornChild
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To: Cicero
Older people tell stories of conceiving condom children in the 50's and 60's. That in spite of the fact that a woman can't get pregnant every day of the month.

Let's assume condoms fail 5% of the time. The math shows that, on average, every 20 times a person has sex with a condom and an HIV positive partner, they'll be exposed to the virus.

Those odds are not good.

Better odds are on getting federal money for your organization to tell young adults that a condom is "safer sex". Safer than what? Safer than having unprotected sex 19 times.

6 posted on 10/15/2003 11:47:58 AM PDT by GOPJ
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To: UnbornChild
Older people tell stories of conceiving condom children in the 50's and 60's. That in spite of the fact that a woman can't get pregnant every day of the month.

Let's assume condoms fail 5% of the time. The math shows that, on average, every 20 times a person has sex with a condom and an HIV positive partner, they'll be exposed to the virus.

Those odds are not good.

Better odds are on getting federal money for your organization to tell young adults that a condom is "safer sex". Safer than what? Safer than having unprotected sex 19 times.

7 posted on 10/15/2003 11:49:00 AM PDT by GOPJ
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In the 50's and the 60's? How about today! The Pill is supposed to have a 3% failure rate. Yet a number of pregnancies occur when even when contraception is used properly.

But young people don't know that. They think a pregnancy with contraception is some astronomically rare event. I used to think so. Until I started posting on a Natural Family Planning board. A number of people there had conceived or knew people who had conceived *even while* using contraception.

It's the same for condoms. Nothing is fail-proof.

8 posted on 10/15/2003 11:54:51 AM PDT by UnbornChild
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To: UnbornChild
Well said, and to the point:

But young people don't know that. They think a pregnancy with contraception is some astronomically rare event. I used to think so. Until I started posting on a Natural Family Planning board. A number of people there had conceived or knew people who had conceived *even while* using contraception.

It's the same for condoms. Nothing is fail-proof.

9 posted on 10/15/2003 9:27:12 PM PDT by GOPJ
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