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To: Viva Le Dissention
It would be a different story if the current administration at least pretended as if it has any interest at all in following the constitution. As far as I'm concerned, they can all go to hell. Flame away.

Flame away. Like an invitation to terrorists to attack America with impunity. Maybe I should have said, "Go to France", not Syria.

23 posted on 10/16/2003 8:06:22 AM PDT by JohnnyZ (RED SOX WIN! We had 'em all the way)
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To: JohnnyZ
Yes, well, I'm one of those tired and old-fashioned folks that think the government should actually have to follow rules when attempting to investigate and prosecute criminals.

If terrorists attack the United States, I fully agree that they should be fairly prosecuted within the bounds of the constitution. This includes the right to an attorney, the right to a jury, the right to secure witnesses on your behalf, the right to challenge evidence, discovery rights, etc., etc.

Maybe not moving to France, but I understand Russia is becoming increasing progressive with its captialist-friendly and libertarian leaning government. Now just to learn the Cyrillic alphabet.
26 posted on 10/16/2003 8:11:32 AM PDT by Viva Le Dissention
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To: JohnnyZ
"...the Patriot Act extended the government's powers well beyond the terrorism arena. The creatively named law - USA Patriot stands for "Uniting and Strengthening America by Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism" - also handed FBI agents and prosecutors a broad new arsenal for going after garden-variety criminals."

"Already, they have used "sneak-and-peek" warrants, wiretaps, Internet surveillance and other Patriot tools in pursuit of thieves, computer hackers, drug dealers and money launderers. And they're exploring how the law can be used in other realms."

"That's as it should be, a key author of the Patriot Act says. A lot of these tools can be used in ordinary crimes," former Assistant Attorney General Viet Dinh acknowledged during a recent debate over the Patriot Act on CNNfn. "But heck, if we happen to catch a murderer, excuse me for not apologizing." Source

The article failed to mention that Justice Department is holding seminars to teach DA's how to apply PATRIOT Act to cases other than terrorism.

"Protect us from terrorists", my arse. They're trying to use terrrorism as an excuse to revoke the Bill of Rights, and they aren't even attempting to make it appear otherwise.

32 posted on 10/16/2003 8:19:48 AM PDT by freeeee (Control freaks unite and pass more laws so we can all be free!!!)
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