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To: freeeee
Essentially Jihadists are doing the government's lobbying, putting momentum behind legislation that would never ordinarily pass, funny that.

So if a Chinese army invaded America (let's say), and the US Military had a reasonable belief that the Chinese had a missile battery parked in your back yard, you think it would be an invasion of your civil liberties if they destroyed said missile battery without obtaining a warrant or waiting until after the missiles were launched?

28 posted on 10/16/2003 8:14:53 AM PDT by JohnnyZ (RED SOX WIN! We had 'em all the way)
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To: JohnnyZ
Heh. Well, given the US track record of finding weapons in Iraq, I'm rather sure I'd not like them blowing up American soil based on its "intelligence."
31 posted on 10/16/2003 8:19:38 AM PDT by Viva Le Dissention
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To: JohnnyZ
So if a Chinese army invaded America (let's say), and the US Military had a reasonable belief that the Chinese had a missile battery parked in your back yard, you think it would be an invasion of your civil liberties if they destroyed said missile battery without obtaining a warrant or waiting until after the missiles were launched?

1. If the PRC has succeeded in setting up shop in my back yard, that means I'm already dead, as they would need to kill me first.

2. You don't need a warrant to go after what can be plainly seen from the street. Seeing it alone is probable cause.

3. In the event of a Chinese invasion of the US, an official declaration of war would be made by Congress, and once the Chinese were defeated all war powers would officially end. This is quite the opposite as the case we have today, where Congress has made no declaration of war, there will never be an end to the WoT, and these constitutional violations will be the "new normal".

37 posted on 10/16/2003 8:26:50 AM PDT by freeeee (Control freaks unite and pass more laws so we can all be free!!!)
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To: JohnnyZ
"So if a Chinese army invaded America (let's say), and the US Military had a reasonable belief that the Chinese had a missile battery parked in your back yard, you think it would be an invasion of your civil liberties if they destroyed said missile battery without obtaining a warrant or waiting until after the missiles were launched?
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Would you object to periodic searches of your home and person to verify that the above in fact does not apply to you? Searches might not exceed 10 per year, with minimal inconvenience to you and your family. Of course, anything discovered dealing with other civil or criminal matters would be referred to the proper authorities.
86 posted on 10/16/2003 9:18:47 AM PDT by WoofDog123
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