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To: Gargantua
This was Christ's answer when the Sadducees and Pharisees tried to trick Him into saying something which could be considered treasonous to Roman Law. What Christ meant is that men are exhorted by God to obey the Laws of their respective Government, and also to obey God's Law. If my country's Laws state that I have a right to due process (and they do) then this is where the Bible covers that matter.

Gargantua, first you stated that our rights were God-given.

When pressed for a Biblical explanation, you reply that since Christ said we should render to Ceasar, that was an endorsement of the laws of the land.

This is a pretty silly explanation for several reasons, but the most obvious is: by your logic, the laws of the land are representative of the fiat of God. In the America of 2003, this would mean that God condones abortion.
265 posted on 10/17/2003 12:21:23 PM PDT by Belial
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To: Belial
Let's get a couple things straight, since you seem a bit confused.

Gargantua didn't say that our rights are God-given. Sure, he (she?) typed it, but he was quoting others, and gave the proper attributions.

Gargantua pointed out that America's Founding Documents and Founding Fathers said this. As did the unanimous bodies of the joint Houses of the Congress of The United States of America in 1789, when they requested that President George Washington establish an official National Holy Day of prayerful thanks to God for giving us those Rights, and this Republic.

Second, you have taken two disparate replies from Gargantua and tried to combine them as though they were connected by something other than your snotty prattle.

Every Christian knows that God's exhortation that men obey the Laws of the land ends when those Laws contravert God's own Law. I know this, and I have no doubt that Gargantua does, too.

And now, you do as well.

269 posted on 10/17/2003 8:54:48 PM PDT by Dynamo (Just calling a spade a "spade")
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To: Belial; Dynamo
Wow. I'll let Dynamo's reply speak as my answer. I couldn't have said it beter. Welll... maybe just a little... :-)
271 posted on 10/18/2003 12:12:01 PM PDT by Gargantua (Embrace clarity.)
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