Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

To: Question_Assumptions
In my opinion? I believe that the legality or illegality of drugs should be handled at the state level, barring a constitutional amendment. I think that the role of the Federal government should be to regulate the trade in substances made illegal by the various states. Is that a terse enough answer for you?

Terse, enough?...yes. But IMO, the federal government doesn't have any business enforcing state laws.

I think this assertion is false. Almost every law we have is done "half-way" and does not inevitably get abandoned or result in a police state.

We're not talking about just one law here. It's a cabinet level office, a federal agency, and a large part of the Justice Department as well as whole gaggle of over-reaching laws and federal regulations. One law can be dealt with, but this has become firmly entrenched and grown throughout the much of the federal government. And it grows every year. IMO, if it keeps growing, it WILL bring about a police state if left unchecked, especially since these agencies know how easy it is to scare the nit-wit soccer moms into believing that if it doesn't get bigger every year then their kids are going to become junkies.

We've got laws against theft, rape, and murder and these things still go on in the streets, in private homes, and in the jails. Are you suggesting that we should make these things legal?

Ye Gods, not that straw man argument again. No, it's not about making murder and rape legal as a means of reducing crime. That's up there with not giving out grades in school to decrease the dropout rate. There are laws against murder and rape because those two actions violate the rights of others. There is no victim in drug use other than the person using the drugs possibly harming themselves. If drug users want to ruin their lives, fine, that is their right. That is the risk of freedom. This isn't Nerf-World, where all the sharp edges have been rounded off and padded for our own protection. If you are not free to mess up your own life, how free are you? How can you truely be the master of you own fate? This was tried in the 1920's and it failed miserably. But at least those particular "drug warriors" respected our Constitution enough to do it the right way, via the amendment process. It was a testimate to the character of the country at the time when they realized that they made a mistake, admitted it and repealed that amendment. That is the stregnth of character that this country needs to find again.

92 posted on 10/17/2003 3:00:38 PM PDT by Orangedog (Soccer-Moms are the biggest threat to your freedoms and the republic !)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 58 | View Replies ]


To: Orangedog
Terse, enough?...yes. But IMO, the federal government doesn't have any business enforcing state laws.

The states do not have the authority to control interstate commerce. Since that role is reserved to the Congress, then it falls upon the Congress to assist states in controlling the movement of illegal and regulated goods between the states. Would you really rather prefer Utah, say, trying to control the transportation of goods into and out of Utah from, say, Colorado?

We're not talking about just one law here. It's a cabinet level office, a federal agency, and a large part of the Justice Department as well as whole gaggle of over-reaching laws and federal regulations.

And alcohol was banned by constitutional amendment. When the people decided that Prohibition went too far, they repealed the amendment. A constitutional democratic republic at work.

IMO, if it keeps growing, it WILL bring about a police state if left unchecked, especially since these agencies know how easy it is to scare the nit-wit soccer moms into believing that if it doesn't get bigger every year then their kids are going to become junkies.

If. If. I don't believe it will keep growing and I don't believe we'll be left with a police state. But if soccer moms are worried about their children becoming junkies and you believe that this is feeding the War on Drugs, do you really believe that suggesting that drugs should be legalized is going to address their fear?

There are laws against murder and rape because those two actions violate the rights of others. There is no victim in drug use other than the person using the drugs possibly harming themselves.

First, many people actually do care about what other poeple do to themselves. I know that libertarians find this patronizing and offensive but that's life. Second, when drug users lose the ability to support and care for themselves, they become everyone's problem and do harm those around them.

If drug users want to ruin their lives, fine, that is their right. That is the risk of freedom. This isn't Nerf-World, where all the sharp edges have been rounded off and padded for our own protection.

The very act of forming into a society and submitting to a culture is an act of trading freedom for security. It has been thus for thousands of years and, for the most part, people have been opting for civilization and security.

If you are not free to mess up your own life, how free are you?

If I don't desire the freedom to mess up my own life, what difference does it make? You can give me the freedom to shoot myself in the head but what good is that freedom if I have no desire to shoot myself in the head?

How can you truely be the master of you own fate?

In what way?

This was tried in the 1920's and it failed miserably.

It failed. How "miserably" is open to debate, I think. But this is not the post-WWI period, the Roaring 20s, or the Depression and alcohol is not crack or heroin. The situations that led to a repeal of Prohibition after just over a decade are apparently not the same as teh situations that have not led to the repeal of the War on Drugs after more than two decades.

But at least those particular "drug warriors" respected our Constitution enough to do it the right way, via the amendment process. It was a testimate to the character of the country at the time when they realized that they made a mistake, admitted it and repealed that amendment. That is the stregnth of character that this country needs to find again.

So it is "bad character" that makes people not realize that they should legalize drugs. Yeah, that argument will win you lots of support.

110 posted on 10/17/2003 3:55:05 PM PDT by Question_Assumptions
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 92 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson