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FBI Questions Man On Box Cutters In Planes
AP ^ | 10-17-2003 | Curt Anderson

Posted on 10/17/2003 3:51:08 PM PDT by blam

FBI Questions Man on Box Cutters in Planes

By CURT ANDERSON, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - The government on Friday ordered intensified security checks of the entire U.S. commercial air fleet after small plastic bags containing box cutters and other suspicious items were found on two Southwest Airlines planes.

A 20-year-old North Carolina man was being questioned by the FBI in connection with the incidents, according to a congressional official and a senior law enforcement official, both of whom spoke on condition of anonymity.

The congressional official said the man, described as a college student, had informed the Transportation Security Administration that he planned to put packages on planes in an effort to expose gaps in aviation security.

"It doesn't appear to be a terrorist event," FBI Director Robert Mueller said. "I think it is safe to fly."

Still, as a precaution, the government ordered intensified searches of the roughly 7,000 commercial aircraft. The checks were expected to be completed by Saturday, with no disruptions to service.

The suspicious bags were hidden in lavatory compartments aboard Southwest Airlines jets that landed in New Orleans and Houston. They were found late Thursday by maintenance workers.

A Southwest statement said the items appeared "intended to simulate a threat" and that each bag was accompanied by a note that "indicated the items were intended to challenge Transportation Security Administration checkpoint security procedures."

Another senior law enforcement official, also speaking on condition of anonymity, said each note included precise information about where and when the items were placed on board the aircraft. The official would not provide further details.

In addition to the box cutters and notes, the bags contained bleach, matches and modeling clay, according to the official. The bleach on one of the planes was in a suntan lotion bottle and in another unidentified container on the other plane.

The clay was formed to look like a plastic explosive, while the bleach could have been used to demonstrate how a corrosive or dangerous liquid could be smuggled aboard an aircraft.

Though government officials were quick to say there were no indications of terrorism, the discovery aboard the Southwest planes was a chilling reminder of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. The 19 hijackers used box cutters to take over four jets that day. Box cutters and bleach are now are among the items that cannot be carried onto planes.

The TSA was created after the attacks, with the goal of replacing privately employed airport security workers with better-trained and higher-paid government employees. Problems with screening passengers and bags have persisted, however. For example, officials say X-ray machines can't detect plastic explosives.

Officials say it's unclear whether the items placed on the Southwest planes ever went through security. Investigators have interviewed passengers and crew on the New Orleans plane but also had not ruled out the possibility that airline or airport workers had placed the bags on the planes.

Southwest spokeswoman Beth Harbin said the New Orleans plane had originated in Orlando, Fla., and was scheduled to go on to San Diego later Thursday night. The crew reported a lavatory wasn't working and a maintenance worker discovered the bag while working on the problem at about 9 p.m., she said.

A short time later, a bag was found aboard the Houston aircraft, which had arrived from nearby Austin, Texas, for routine maintenance. Southwest said security checks of its entire fleet of 385 aircraft found no other suspicious items.

All airlines conduct routine searches of their planes. Homeland Security Department spokesman Brian Roehrkasse said a government directive that went out after the bags were found instructed airlines "to make sure the searches are done in a comprehensive and thorough manner."

Paul Rancantore, deputy chairman of the security committee for American Airlines' pilots union, described the routine searches as fairly perfunctory.

"It's kind of a walk-through. They're just looking for things that are obvious," Rancatore said. "There's no removing of panels, no dogs."

Rep. John Mica, chairman of the House aviation subcommittee, said the incident demonstrates the need to screen all employees with access to aircraft and whatever they bring on a board. He also said TSA needs improved technology to screen for explosives and banned objects.

"We need to have TSA get its act together and put in place the adequate training and technology to deal with the threat," said Mica, R-Fla.

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Associated Press writers Leslie Miller in Washington and David Koenig in Dallas contributed to this story.


TOPICS: Front Page News
KEYWORDS: airlinesecurity; airseclist; box; captured; cutters; fbi; man; nathanielheatwole; northcarolina; oldnorthstate; planes; questions; tsa
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1 posted on 10/17/2003 3:51:08 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
Hope he has to pay for all the extra work
2 posted on 10/17/2003 3:54:18 PM PDT by boxerblues (If you can read this.. Thank a Teacher..If you can read this in English ..Thank a US Soldier)
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To: blam
Nobody will ever overtake another American Commercial Airliner if it's full of passengers. Americans are not going to sit there and go thru that again.

The next event would be on a charter flight or on a cargo carrier if they choose to do so.

4 posted on 10/17/2003 4:02:49 PM PDT by blackdog ("This is everybody's fault but mine")
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To: Futenma33
Not as "Nutty" as those who will place the "Real Thing"....This wake up call obviously did so.....
5 posted on 10/17/2003 4:04:41 PM PDT by vavavah
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Liberals must be frothing at the mouth to exploit this and bash the administration, but they are terrified to go for it, as is the media. Too hot of a subject.

Since they let a little time go after 9-11 and then attacked Bush in a blitzkrieg when polls said they could get away with it... I think they may now be deciding at DNC and via polling how far to take this.


6 posted on 10/17/2003 4:06:06 PM PDT by At _War_With_Liberals (Celebrate Globalism)
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To: blackdog
Wake u.......How will the passengers over take a non-detected explosive device Hummmmmm?
7 posted on 10/17/2003 4:06:34 PM PDT by vavavah
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To: blam
He got his point across, I hope he is happy now. Goes to show that the TSA has a long way to go.
8 posted on 10/17/2003 4:10:04 PM PDT by Pro-Bush (Homeland Security + Tom Ridge = Open Borders --> Demand Change!)
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To: vavavah
The good news is that this does imply that airplanes are not part of the Al Qaeda strategy anymore, or else they could have blown up another plane by now.

I think that Al Q is regrouping and laying low in the US for survival purposes. Tens of thousands of Muslims are immigrating here a year. Who knows if some are Al Qaeda. I am more worried about this state sanctioned infiltration than of a specific attack now. Since 9-11, they have not done anything. Not even a simple shooting. I can only imagine what the cells in the US are planning. Hopefully, law enforcement has been effective, and that is the reason for the peace. Hopefully.
9 posted on 10/17/2003 4:15:10 PM PDT by At _War_With_Liberals (Celebrate Globalism)
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To: blam
Officials say it's unclear whether the items placed on the Southwest planes ever went through security. Investigators have interviewed passengers and crew on the New Orleans plane but also had not ruled out the possibility that airline or airport workers had placed the bags on the planes.

For crying out loud, they pat down grannies trying to get on the plane, but they completely ignore "airline or airport workers." What kind of security is that?

10 posted on 10/17/2003 4:33:40 PM PDT by JoeFromSidney
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To: JoeFromSidney
SW hires "ramp workers" at 9 bucks (+-) an hour.....cant get the cream of the crop with those numbers.....Un sure what they pay those that vacume and clean but i bet it is not much more.......back ground is relevant...how far back and where?
11 posted on 10/17/2003 4:40:00 PM PDT by vavavah
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To: blam
The TSA was created after the attacks, with the goal of replacing privately employed airport security workers with better-trained and higher-paid government employees.

This line is the biggest laugh of all. For the most part, it's the same people as before, only now they have a nice cushy government job with official looking uniforms so they can push grandma around any way they damn well please, and since they're now government, they can't be fired.

13 posted on 10/17/2003 5:03:12 PM PDT by COBOL2Java
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To: blam; *Old_North_State; **North_Carolina; Constitution Day; 100%FEDUP; ...
One of our own...NC Ping!
16 posted on 10/17/2003 5:15:12 PM PDT by mykdsmom (We often give our enemies the means of our own destruction - Aesop)
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To: Futenma33
This guy is obviously a nut.

Which is more crazy, an adolescent playing a prank, or a police-state that shuts the entire air-travel system of a nation over a couple of box-cutters, some harmless chemicals, and a few lumps of clay?

17 posted on 10/17/2003 5:28:56 PM PDT by snopercod (In the depth of your hopes and desires lies your silent knowledge of the beyond.)
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To: blam
Warning to anyone who attempts what I did on a recent flight.

I had some spare time to do some browsing at a mall before my flight and found a package of bungee cords with the old style ends (wire versus the clunky plastic ones they use now) So, I bought a package and threw them in my carry on suitcase

Once I got pulled aside after the Xray machine I found out that bungee cords could be used to tie someone up, so I had to go back to the airline check in counter and check my carry on through to my destination or have the bungees confiscated.

Sheeeesh!

18 posted on 10/17/2003 5:29:50 PM PDT by Vermonter (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law!)
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To: At _War_With_Liberals
Well, AQ never had nearly as many actual international operatives as people imagined. Even prior to 9/11 not more than a few hundred worldwide. Most of those have been rounded up.

(Donning Flame-resistant suit) I think it's entirely possible that there are no actual AQ cells in the US at the moment.

Whatever inflated fantasy numbers of thousands and thousands in AQ cells there are simply don't pass the smell test; I suspect the numbers are inflated by including people who fundraise for Hamas, etc...not that that isn't bad, but there's a difference between that an an active AQ domestic terror cell. And also inflated by counting EVERYONE who happened to go to an AQ camp in Afghanistan for "training"...this was thousands of people, but they're not all or mostly in this country, and very few were actually seriously trained as terrorists and accepted in the AQ network.

Not to say there couldn't be some horrible AQ attack in the US tomorrow, but I liken it somewhat to early 1942 in the US; Pearl Harbor was terrible, and the Japanese were dangerous, but people were running around seeing non-existent Japanese invasion fleets off California, and the media was publishing silly scenarios for a non-planned and physically impossible Japanese invasion of the US.
19 posted on 10/17/2003 5:35:31 PM PDT by John H K
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To: Vermonter
Once I got pulled aside after the Xray machine I found out that bungee cords could be used to tie someone up, - Not that there's anything wrong with that.
20 posted on 10/17/2003 5:42:49 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy ("Conscience is the little voice inside of you that says someone might be watching" HL Mencken)
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